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I want to make several posts about panels and such at Escapade, but first, a post about the Escapade Saturday night vidshow. For those who got the DVDs, [livejournal.com profile] feochadn is responsible for the festive and stylish graphics, and the photographs used for them. She also (with help from [personal profile] melina and [personal profile] mlyn and I'm not sure who else? But not me!) made the vidshow itself flow smoothly and look and sound very nearly as perfect as possible.

My part of the job was to compose the show and master the DVDs. Since a few people asked me, I'll clarify that this year's show was about 50/50 submitted vids and requested vids. There have been many comments over the years about shows that were light on favorite fandoms, or light on slash vids, so this year I took the bit and ran with it a little, and composed a show that I thought would please the majority of the attendees and show an interesting variety of tones, fandoms, characters, musical styles, etc. while keeping in mind that this is very much a slash con. It was really interesting to see how that played out, and how the attendees responded. Maybe I learned some stuff. Let's hope! I do know that I adored this show and all the vidders who contributed, whether on their own or at my pleading.

VIDSHOW PLAY ORDER

1 Walking on the Sun by [personal profile] giandujakiss (Lost Girl)
2 *Cooler Than Me by [livejournal.com profile] anoel (Glee)
3 **Blackbird by Clucking Belles (Imagine Me and You)
4 Under the Sheets by [livejournal.com profile] almostgaby (Inception)
5 **Bad Romance by [livejournal.com profile] smutcutter (Star Trek: DS9)
6 Hateful by [personal profile] mlyn (White Collar)
7 **Stronger Than Dirt by [personal profile] fahrbotdrusilla (Watchmen)
8 *Mama Said Knock You Out by [livejournal.com profile] talitha78 (NCIS: LA)
9 *Lost Cause by [livejournal.com profile] gwyn_r (Justified)
10 *Breathe You In by Holdt (Stargate SG-1)
11 Something's Gotta Give by [livejournal.com profile] lamardeuse (Hawaii 5-0)
12 This Town's Religion by [livejournal.com profile] destina (Top Gun)
13 The Humbling River by [livejournal.com profile] feochadn (Red Cliff)
14 *Remembrance by [livejournal.com profile] hsv_fangirl (Star Wars: The Phantom Menace)
15 Trust No One by Loki (Supernatural)

INTERMISSION

16 *Running Up That Hill by [livejournal.com profile] gwyn_r (Prison Break)
17 All the Way by [livejournal.com profile] greensilver (Invisible Man)
18 Heartbreaker by [livejournal.com profile] destina and [livejournal.com profile] barkley (Southland)
19 Critical Hit by [livejournal.com profile] jarrow (Big Bang Theory)
20 Little Plastic Castle by [personal profile] marina (Lost Girl)
21 Not Responsible by [livejournal.com profile] lamardeuse (Sherlock)
22 *Pocketful of Sunshine by [livejournal.com profile] talitha78 (Kings)
23 They Want More by [livejournal.com profile] bironic (Jurassic Park)
24 *Sex and Reruns by [livejournal.com profile] greensilver (Community)
25 *When I'm Up I Can't Get Down by [livejournal.com profile] deejay (Takin' Over The Asylum)
26 Square One by [personal profile] killabeez (Appaloosa)
27 Are We Real? by [livejournal.com profile] wistful_fever (Hawaii 5-0)
28 Last Friday Night by [livejournal.com profile] estalita_11 (Star Trek: TOS)

Three bonus vids on the DVD:
29 *Because I'm Awesome by [livejournal.com profile] anoel (Glee)
30 *Up Where We Belong by [livejournal.com profile] talitha78 (Community)
31 *Wicked Game by Holdt (Stargate SG-1)

I received several comments that people really enjoyed the combination submission-based/curated vidshow, because it included a lot of variety, plenty of slash (and nearly all of our current favorite fandoms), and a good pace/show length. These comments were so valuable-- thank you! ETA: Because I had a couple of people ask me, I've indicated:

* = Vid submitted to the show (as oppposed to requested by me)
** = Premiering vid submitted to the show

A general comment from me about something I noticed at the vid review: the vast majority of these vids were stronger as the vid went on. This became quite apparent to me as we watched about the first minute of each vid, then turned it off to talk about it. It makes sense, that we'd save all the best stuff for the end of the vid -- but it sort of made me wonder if we should concentrate a bit more on winning our audience over in that first minute, especially in a multifandom con setting. Vids that stood out to me as not sharing this unbalanced weaker-at-the-beginning feeling were "Running Up That Hill," "The Humbling River," "Something's Gotta Give," and "Mama Said Knock You Out" -- which, interestingly, received some of the most universally positive feedback and reaction from the audience. I don't think this is coincidence.

Smutcutter and M'lyn ran the vid review. They identified several vids that they wanted to talk about, and then we spent the last twenty minutes or so taking requests from the audience. I wrote down what people said, but not who said it, and tried to clarify the context a bit. So, what follows are the notes I took more or less as things were said, pretty close to unvarnished except where I tried to contextualize the sense of the conversation.

General comments about the vidshow
Everybody in the annex stayed and were entertained. (Show wasn't too long; people found it entertaining.)

Mama Said Knock You Out (NCIS: LA, vidder talitha78)
I've never loved Hetty more
LL Cool J - his song (perfect match)
Hetty identification for people new to the show - appreciated, good con vid
hey, the guy's a rapper, the guy's in a show, that works
super clear what her name is and that she's the boss
we get it almost immediately
voice was very clear (POV character)
last 9 clips or so are suddenly slashy (NCIS gay)
recruiter vid (and by the way, there's also slash)
this vid had low goals and met them admirably

Something's Gotta Give (Hawaii 5-0, vidder lamardeuse)
Too fun! (the word "fun" was repeated several times by several people)
Pre-slash (the courtship phase) - fun to see this
UST rather than outright slash (hasn't happened yet)
appropriate music because show is a remake of an older show, older style music
beautiful setting, pretty, allows that to shine through
straightforward vid, doesn't mess with visuals
internal movement excellent - the pop on the shoulder
felt internal movement was strongest in the first half of the vid
uncommon for newer vidders to have such precise timing and clear POV
gestures/reactions give you easy laugh points and Danny's big gestures go with the Frank Sinatra big tone of the song

Breathe You In (Stargate SG-1, vidder Holdt)
Hated it/Loved it - would love to see this vid influence other videos (referring to use of voiceover and layering)
Voiceover effective, interesting
THIS IS DRAMA GODDAMMIT (referring to the melodramatic tone)
An interesting failure is better than a boring success
Using many techniques and tools (should an artist use every tool in their box? probably not)
Epic (Dante's Cove - shameless!)
Go big or go home
Type on screen not effective and didn't give the audience enough credit for getting it -- several people felt they were being talked down to because lyrics were perfectly clear in the song

Humbling River (Red Cliff, vidder feochadn)
discussion of the source (vid made people hungry to see the movies)
music perfect choice, beautiful song
epic, momentous scope
carefully controlled storytelling
a few things you can focus on - a select number of characters, repeated elements symbols (birds, fire, the river being a metaphor)
introduction - the rhythm of the beats unexpected
image of horses falling/sword falling pulls you in
powerful pimping tool
"A movie this beautiful and a song this lyrical, I dare you to fuck it up."

Trust No One (Supernatural, vidder Loki)
Not a vid per se (some discussion of fannish trailers vs. fannish vids with different opinions on taxonomy)
Following a template (studio trailer), doing interesting things with it
Trailer rather than a vid
Fabulous trailer
(fannish taxonomy again)
overwrought/parodical? (appropriate to source)

my comment: This was interesting to me. I admit that I was curious how something in a different vidding tradition would play in the show, and how people would react. I confess, I think the editing on this is awesome and exciting, and it was disappointing to me that it wasn't better received (at least among the small group of people who came to the vid review). This vidder is (in my opinion) one of the most impressive fannish vidders currently out there. Perhaps, if I had it to do over again, I would have traded this vid for one of the other excellent vids she suggested to me, but I confess that this trailer made me excited about Supernatural again when I didn't think that was possible, so I reacted to that.

Running Up That Hill (Prison Break, vidder gwyneth)
Never had any interest in Prison Break before but found this unbelievable (in the good way)
One of the sexiest vids I've seen in a long time
Perfect song
intensely slashy (word "intense" was used several times)
some talk about plot of show, vid made people curious about the story
vid made you want to know more
seamless effects echo the heartbeat
Design your effects so they work with the show's visuals (yes!)

Critical Hit (Big Bang Theory, vidder jarrow)
Liked the vid but wanted to mess with the timeline to adjust timing of internal motion - clips starting just as the cute thing happened so we couldn't quite see it - start clip a hair earlier so we can get the joke
entry points don't match (character enters on left side of screen; next clip, there's a character coming in on the right)
eyes move back and forth too much to parse action
comment comparing this vid to the vidder's other (somewhat similar) vid for Will & Grace to "Paul McCartney" and how internal motion was handled perfectly in that vid
yattayattayatta watch our show! (a comment that the vid felt like a lot of adorable moments but not cohesive enough -- back to internal motion and composition) - led to the feeling of trying too hard to sell the show
song choice good for show, great song

my comment: This vid actually made me watch this show, so obviously I found it engaging. However, I did have some issues with the flow, and the comments in the review (particularly about the action happening too early within each clip) helped me see why.

Pocketful of Sunshine (Kings, vidder talitha78)
Pimping vid - everyone wanted to know about the show who didn't already
Perfect song for the show
Weak character - interesting - really clear character study (we seldom vid or write about weak characters)
A lot of information quickly
Liked the literalism and the symbolism
A beta might have helped to eliminate all the headshots in a row
Dissenting opinions - several people liked that aspect because it was so narrow and trapped feeling
Perhaps a few other clips in first part that weren't head shots could vary it without losing the trapped/closed-in feeling?
really cool how it goes from that claustrophobia to the big, open, freeing shots in the 2nd half of the vid (spinning, flying)
Made many people want to watch the show

my comment: I agree wholeheartedly that this is a pimping vid -- so much so that I sat down and watched the entire series within two days of seeing this vid for the first time.

They Want More (Jurassic Park, vidder bironic)
big burst of laughter at the first shot of "More!"
wanted more of a lead in - blood revealed too soon (don't give it all to me up front)
great con vid
Loved the song choice and especially the Elton John version

Are We Real? (Hawaii 5-0, vidder wistful fever)
Discussion of lyrics/appropriateness to show (got me up in the studio rappin') and whether it was distracting
Some said they didn't listen to lyrics too closely
gave an effective window into the character's inner voices without making them girly
effects necessary? (discussion of the mood that the effects created, how it helped reveal a side of the show, angsty tone creates a mood that might not be readily apparent when watching the show)
Fans of the show found it evocative

Last Friday Night (Star Trek: TOS, vidder estalita)
lots and lots of giggling
So brilliant
Sheer and utter genius
Perfection
Kirk's casual Friday shirt
Happy smiling coffee klatches on the bridge never seemed so smug to me!
Best effective use of stills ever - how many people found themselves anticipating the next "pictures on the internet" sequence?
Enterprise, the party ship
Killa sent me the link and I went and watched it 50 times
sparkly stars made of win
used some long clips but made it more fun by using effects (Scotty sliding down the wall)
didn't use the same technique, not just jump cuts, appropriate choices, but different techniques married well to each other
laughing with the characters, not at them, charming, not embarrassing
classic comedy that respects the source, not cheese
Kirk = Katy Perry
Thought the modern song might not work but it did

Little Plastic Castle (Lost Girl, vidder marina)
Good recruiter vid
Too many clips from the pilot in intro? (vid made while only a few eps available)
Unintentional laughter? (at this point I spent some time explaining why "surprise every time" is so funny)
made people curious about the show, second half of the vid charmed people (after long intro)

When I'm Up (Taking Over the Asylum, vidder deejay)
long talky face clips (and some actually slowed down) over extremely energetic music
One guy in every shot (viewer fatigue)
one person said they found themselves getting distracted-- "I have a shirt like that"
Recruiter vid - made someone curious about show
Yeah I get it, you've got this serious David Tennant fixation
not a lot of subtlety

Square One (Appaloosa, vidder Killa)
beautiful song for the western era
vid of the books rather than the movies

Hateful (White Collar, vidder M'lyn)
Song uncomfortable for a reason
Not intended to be happy; deliberate tone to reveal inherent power imbalance in the Neal/Peter relationship

That was a lot of coding, and I'm pretty wiped out, so please let me know if I made any mistakes in the links or anything. And please do feed the vidders, if you can!
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Date: 2011-03-01 11:56 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] scrollgirl
Psst, I think you smooshed together two vids on your play list: 26 Square One killabeezAre We Real? by wistful_fever (Hawaii 5-0)

Date: 2011-03-02 12:13 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mlyn
Holy cow, I am in awe that you took such exhaustive notes and assembled this giant post! *bows to you*

Date: 2011-03-02 01:10 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] gwyn
I am deeply impressed that you did this and were able to take such great notes. I'm not surprised you're wiped out! I heart you very much for doing such a great show, and for letting me make a few suggestions for vids. I just loved it!

Date: 2011-03-02 09:48 am (UTC)
lim: baby Spock peeks over the bottom of the icon (Default)
From: [personal profile] lim
These notes are greatness, thank you. Also thanks for pointing me to that TOS vid which I think is tremendously charming.

Date: 2011-03-02 03:45 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] laurashapiro
Thank you so much for posting this write-up!

Date: 2011-03-02 09:51 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] thuviaptarth
Thank you for writing this up!

It feels really odd to ask this...

Date: 2011-03-02 10:46 pm (UTC)
elke_tanzer: There's always room for more plotbunnies! (plotbunnies)
From: [personal profile] elke_tanzer
First: Thank you for all of your work to put the vidshow together!

Second: I guess I'm having rather mixed feelings about the curatedness of the show... I find myself wondering which of the vids were (*) submitted by their vidders, and which of the vids were (**) premiered at Escapade this year as their first con showing, and which of the vids were (***) premiered at Escapade this year without showing at any other con nor on the internet anywhere before the Escapade show.

If next year's show is created similarly, would you please consider adding one, two, three asterisks to both the show's paper handout and the con DVD packaging to denote those features?

I know that vids from attending vidders take precedence over non-attending vidders, but somehow I also thought that con-premiering and especially con-and-internet-premiering vids were given precedence as well, and I'm not sure where I got that impression. Was that the case in years past, and I'm not remembering that it's changed recently?

Third: I'm kinda baffled by the bonus vids on the DVD... why are these three bonus and not part of the regular show?

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Date: 2011-03-03 05:30 pm (UTC)
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...but I confess that this trailer made me excited about Supernatural again when I didn't think that was possible, so I reacted to that.

I think I said this to you after the show, but this was exactly true for me, as well -- and I haven't watched since around the end of 4th season, I think. Wait, no, the beginning of 4th season. This is the first vidly thing I've seen that's made me think: maybe I'll catch up, at some point. Maybe.

Date: 2011-03-02 12:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cluesby4.livejournal.com
This looks so interesting! I hope one day to attend an Escapade. Amd maybe, hopefully, vid again!

Date: 2011-03-02 12:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hsv-fangirl.livejournal.com
Oh, I bet it was fun! Maybe someday I can go! Thanks for the post, Killa!
xx

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Date: 2011-03-02 12:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] namastenancy.livejournal.com
What an amazing collection - thank you for positing it here.

Date: 2011-03-02 01:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] killabeez.livejournal.com
Very welcome! Thanks for reading.

Date: 2011-03-02 01:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] counteragent.livejournal.com
Cool thanks!!

Date: 2011-03-02 01:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] killabeez.livejournal.com
You bet. (I recced a vid of yours to some people over the weekend, too -- hope they found it. :)

Date: 2011-03-02 01:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] talitha78.livejournal.com
this vid had low goals and met them admirably

LOL!!

Thanks for putting this together--it was great fun to read, and the show looks like it was very strong.

Date: 2011-03-02 01:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] killabeez.livejournal.com
I loved that comment. *g* And I loved how well this vid went over! As well as the Kings vid, which I can't seem to stop watching.

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Date: 2011-03-02 01:48 am (UTC)
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Actually, I don't have a fixation on David Tennant at all. He just happened to be the focus of that particular character vid.

O.o

Date: 2011-03-02 01:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] killabeez.livejournal.com
This was actually an auction vid, wasn't it?

(That wasn't me who made the David Tennant comment, in case it wasn't clear.)

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Date: 2011-03-02 02:18 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] lamardeuse.livejournal.com
Oh, yay! Thank you so much for putting up the notes - it's great to get feedback like this from con goers. :)

Date: 2011-03-02 04:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] killabeez.livejournal.com


I watched the most recent ep of H5-0 by myself on Sunday night, and it was ridiculously awesome. DAMN THEM. And you.

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Date: 2011-03-02 02:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] girlmostlikely.livejournal.com
That Jurassic Park vid is the best thing in the history of EVER. ♥__♥

Date: 2011-03-02 04:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] killabeez.livejournal.com
I discovered that it is actually funnier in direct proportion to the number of people in the room giggling.

Date: 2011-03-02 03:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] destina.livejournal.com
This post is so cool, it is like an umbrella drink sipped while floating in a warm oasis. :D Thanks for doing all that work, both on the show *and* on writing notes - which will be really lovely for the people who weren't there with their vids.

Date: 2011-03-02 04:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] killabeez.livejournal.com
I should have mentioned "Heartbreaker" as one of the vids that I don't consider to have a slow start -- but everyone this weekend kept looking at me with these blank looks when I tried to tell them how awesome Southland is, so I don't even know. Lydia Adams and John Cooper and Ben Sherman are obviously TOO GOOD FOR THEM. *hoards*

Date: 2011-03-02 03:25 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] bironic.livejournal.com
Thank you for typing this all up! As someone who couldn't make it to the con but had a vid shown, I loved hearing some of the reactions and discussions that happened. Great to have some concrit as well.

Date: 2011-03-02 04:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] killabeez.livejournal.com
Thank you so much for letting us show your vid. It was a huge hit. :)

Date: 2011-03-02 03:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anoel.livejournal.com
Thank you so much for typing this up and doing the vidshow! It was awesome :)

Date: 2011-03-02 04:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] killabeez.livejournal.com
Aw, you're welcome, and thank you! I'll have you know that not only did Melina make me listen to lots of awesome Glee music in the car, I came home and my husband had (without consulting me) mainlined S1 of Glee and demanded that I catch up. Apparently, I have no choice.

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Date: 2011-03-02 04:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] itsthewa.livejournal.com
Well, I must agree that the Kings vid was indeed an awesome instrument of pimpage. I never saw the show, and know nothing about it beyond the vid. Since you've now seen the whole series(one season, right?), did you like it? I admit to being intrigued. :)

Date: 2011-03-02 04:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] killabeez.livejournal.com
I loved it! Totally recommend it. I wish it had lasted longer, but I kind of love things that have a limited shelf-life. :)

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Date: 2011-03-02 05:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] secretlytodream.livejournal.com
wow so many good vids! I'm so watching all of them later :)

Well, as for my own vid - it is a trailer, so it was kind of expected? I don't know. But thanks so much for believing in me and for such a sweet comment <333

Date: 2011-03-02 03:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] killabeez.livejournal.com
All your vids blow my mind. :)

Date: 2011-03-02 05:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kerithwyn.livejournal.com
Thank you so much for the terrific vid show, and for posting the commentary. As someone who knows Z-E-R-O about vidding, it's always fascinating and informative to hear the comments of those who do.

Date: 2011-03-02 02:59 pm (UTC)

Date: 2011-03-02 08:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bluespirit-star.livejournal.com
Thanks so much for putting this all together to share!
*hugs*

The vid show was always one of my favourite parts of going to Escapade. :)

Date: 2011-03-02 02:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] killabeez.livejournal.com
You're welcome. :)

Date: 2011-03-02 02:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wistful-fever.livejournal.com
Thank you so much for putting this all together, and including me in your program. :)

Date: 2011-03-02 02:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] killabeez.livejournal.com
Thanks for sharing your vid with us!

Date: 2011-03-02 02:59 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] giandujakiss.livejournal.com
Just wanted to say congrats on putting together what looks like such a great show (runs to download stuff!) and thank you for including my vid!

Date: 2011-03-02 03:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] killabeez.livejournal.com
Oh, my pleasure -- thanks for letting us show it. :) Definitely worked! I had a few people tell me that between the two vids in the show, they were inspired to watch Lost Girl.

Date: 2011-03-04 12:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] catalenamara.livejournal.com
Pimping works! I just added Red Cliff to my Netflix queue. Now to find Lost Girl...

Date: 2011-03-05 06:27 pm (UTC)

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