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Deaths: only with reference?

hello, can I again request that if people add entries to the deaths in 2026, they do it with a reference? I still see many entries without ref. Thanks Eptalon (talk) 12:44, 9 July 2026 (UTC)

Hello, what about removing those entries from the list that do not have a reference like a few days from now? Eptalon (talk) 10:45, 12 July 2026 (UTC)

Good idea, but that's most of them :( fr33kman 23:44, 14 July 2026 (UTC)

The only thing I can think of is to semi protect the page as it's only really being edited by unconfirmed users. This will impact the good edits however. It's that or either we verify each entry or remove them. A lot of work either way. fr33kman 18:57, 15 July 2026 (UTC)

July 2026 Wikimedia Café meetups regarding Wikimedia governance and options for reform

Hello! There will be two Wikimedia Café discussion opportunities in July. Both sessions will focus on Wikimedia governance, including possible follow-ups to the Movement Charter and options for reform. Participants may attend either or both Café sessions.

This month, to deconflict the Café meetups from Wikimania, the meetups will be held one day later than usual.

1. 26 July 2026 15:00 UTC (timestamp converter), at a time friendly to the Americas, Africa, and Europe
2. 27 July 2026 03:00 UTC (timestamp converter), at a time friendly to Asia and the Pacific

Please see the Café page for more information, including how to register!

↠Pine (✉) 03:36, 13 July 2026 (UTC)

PGA

Since it doesn't require an admin, could someone take a look at WP:PGOOD? There are articles there that need closing and have been there for quite some time. I can't close because I've !voted. Thanks fr33kman 23:42, 14 July 2026 (UTC)

I promoted the first two (of three) nominations; only thing that is missing is the blurb to show on the main page. The new GA's are Symphony No. 5 (Shostakovich) and Hannah Spencer. Congrats everyone. Eptalon (talk) 07:34, 16 July 2026 (UTC)

Thanks dude! fr33kman 14:19, 16 July 2026 (UTC)

@Ternera: Is the go to person to make sure the blurbs are up and running, they’ve done a great job and kicking off the new GA main page project! TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 16:04, 16 July 2026 (UTC)

 Done, they are in the main page rotation now. Ternera (talk) 16:38, 16 July 2026 (UTC)

Thank you! TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 16:03, 16 July 2026 (UTC)

Thanks @Eptalon! Garsh (talk) 03:49, 19 July 2026 (UTC)

What to improve

What should i improve in Ace Combat 7: Skies Unknown? --ThatAustralianBall (talk) 03:43, 16 July 2026 (UTC)

There are some citation errors and red-link categories that should be fixed. Ternera (talk) 16:04, 16 July 2026 (UTC)

Request for Suggestions

Please let me know how to improve this draft.-Baangla (talk) 04:04, 18 July 2026 (UTC)

This draft needs to be simplified before it can be moved to mainspace. Please simplify sentence structure and word choice. The WP:BE 1500 is a good list to use. If you must use more complicated words, you should explain them or wikilink an article that does. Garsh (talk) 20:04, 18 July 2026 (UTC)

Note that we don't expect you to stick to this (or any other) word list. Articles should be easy to understand. This usually means short sentences and explaining well. One idea pet sentence, paragraph made of several sentences. Eptalon (talk) 20:21, 18 July 2026 (UTC)

Thanks a lot guys! I am also breaking sentences that use "and", "but" and "yet" into two sentences.-Baangla (talk) 02:47, 19 July 2026 (UTC)

@Garsh2 and Eptalon: I have gone through the entire draft again and simplified it, so please let me know how else I can improve it and move it to mainspace.-Baangla (talk) 03:10, 19 July 2026 (UTC)

This is still showing a college level reading score - you need to aim for year 7-8 level. At the moment the it is not even close to being in Simple English. Use an online tool like https://readabilitycheck.com/ to check your work and get some ideas. Peterdownunder (talk) 10:02, 19 July 2026 (UTC)

A simple approach to your opening paragraph would be something like this: "In India, some politicians give special help or benefits to minority groups, mostly Muslims, to get their support. A. K. Antony says this has helped groups based on community feelings grow stronger. These groups work together because they share the same interests. Antony says there is a problem: these special help policies are supposed to help minorities, but often they do not help regular people in those groups. Instead, leaders take the benefits for themselves. This causes problems in education and money matters, especially for Muslims. Some leaders have even used government help, like money for the Hajj pilgrimage, for their own gain. The same happens with help meant for Dalits and Christian minorities, where leaders benefit more than the people. Hilal Ahmed says Muslim appeasement means unfair politics, like giving special favors only to minorities, and systems that give reserved spots to minorities in schools and jobs. Vote bank politics means political parties focus on winning votes from minority groups by giving them special treatment, instead of treating all citizens equally. This idea is explained in a Class 11 textbook by NCERT." Peterdownunder (talk) 10:09, 19 July 2026 (UTC)

Wow, you simplified the entire lead. Thanks a lot! I will use www.readabilitycheck.com for the rest of the page and post an update here soon. Then I think you can move the draft to mainspace.-Baangla (talk) 13:25, 19 July 2026 (UTC)

@Peterdownunder: There is a big orange coloured pop up when I open https://readabilitycheck.com and I don't know how to use the tools there. Please help me use the tools there.-Baangla (talk) 13:51, 19 July 2026 (UTC)

@Garsh2, Eptalon, Ravensfire, CountryANDWestern, and Peterdownunder: I have now simplified every sentence of that draft (using online tools). Can we now move this draft to mainspace?-Baangla (talk) 15:41, 19 July 2026 (UTC)

When it is moved to mainspace, it must be linked to this article in Bengali: https://bn.wikipedia.org/wiki/ভারতে_সংখ্যালঘু_তোষণ -Baangla (talk) 15:47, 19 July 2026 (UTC)

The article definitely took a big step in the right direction! You are welcome to move it yourself, use the “move” link in the tools sidebar. Change the space to “Article” and the name to the article’s subject. Let me know if you still need help. Garsh (talk) 16:25, 19 July 2026 (UTC)

Thanks!-Baangla (talk) 17:50, 19 July 2026 (UTC)

"Subscribe"

There is an option called "Subscribe" that comes up when I click on the "More" tab. I had practically no idea what this meant (in this context) and only found out by clicking on it. Can't we find a better name that is less opaque? Kdammers (talk) 04:34, 18 July 2026 (UTC)

'follow'/'get notifier on change'? Eptalon (talk) 20:18, 18 July 2026 (UTC)

"Follow" works for me. Peterdownunder (talk) 10:03, 19 July 2026 (UTC)

Support changing it to “Follow” Garsh (talk) 16:28, 19 July 2026 (UTC)

Suggestions to help improve a page

There is a section for the opposite views titled, "Denial and complaints" in Minority appeasement in India, yet it has been nominated for deletion. How can I improve it to avoid deletion?-Baangla (talk) 01:49, 20 July 2026 (UTC)

@Garsh2, Eptalon, Ravensfire, CountryANDWestern, and Peterdownunder: All of you have given suggestions earlier, so please help me with this also. Others can also help if they want to (please help!).-Baangla (talk) 01:55, 20 July 2026 (UTC)

I have observed that some pages have all the, "opposing views" clubbed into one section, so why can't we do the same for this page?-Baangla (talk) 01:59, 20 July 2026 (UTC)

These discussions are more appropriate for the article’s talk page or the RFD or the section you already have above about this page. You do not need to keep bringing this article to the Simple Talk page and pinging multiple people. Note that one person you have pinged here has already weighed in and offered a delete opinion at the RFD. CountryANDWestern (talk) 02:10, 20 July 2026 (UTC)

Reciprocal sanctions

I first brought this idea up on this page in January but it did not receive much discussion. Based on the actions at pages like Soran-Persian War (1829-1834) and Ottoman-Soran War (1832–1834), I think we need to re-examine my thoughts. We are seeing significant conflict over these articles between users who are often "locked out" of editing these topics at the English Wikipedia due to them being under the contentious topic sanctions which require a user holds extended confirmed status in order to contribute there.

As it was 6 months ago when I first brought it up, the biggest areas of concern seem to be caste articles, Indian military history articles, and Kurd & Kurdistan articles. Nothing has changed, just some of the players.

It is currently being addressed via some protections right now, but I think we need to examine a longer term solution for this problem. CountryANDWestern (talk) 15:08, 20 July 2026 (UTC)

Each of those editors has to be told that every article must have both points of view - for and against and also be told to paraphrase and simplify sentences as can be seen in this example.-Baangla (talk) 18:34, 20 July 2026 (UTC)

The thread you have linked to has nothing to do with what I am talking about. CountryANDWestern (talk) 18:38, 20 July 2026 (UTC)

It does. The editors trying to edit pages about "caste articles, Indian military history articles, and Kurd & Kurdistan articles" should be given the advice I mentioned above.-Baangla (talk) 01:15, 21 July 2026 (UTC)

Again, not relevant. My topic is about whether or not we should consider having similar restrictions to the English Wikipedia where users who are not extended confirmed are not eligible to edit those topics. CountryANDWestern (talk) 01:19, 21 July 2026 (UTC)

Yes, we should. These problems arise all the time fr33kman 01:30, 21 July 2026 (UTC)

I agree that something needs to be done, but I’m a little hesitant to defer to enwiki too much. Something that is contentious there may be totally unproblematic here. Reciprocal sanctions is a possible solution, similar to WP:ONESTRIKE but more targeted. I think editors sanctioned on Enwiki should at least be given a chance here, which is the principle behind onestrike. On the subject of editing restrictions/sanctions, who would issue them? We don’t have an arbcom here, and leaving it to individual admins could bring a level of randomness that we don’t want. Garsh (talk) 05:55, 21 July 2026 (UTC)

Is there a way to get people to know about a merger?

I mean there's gotta be a way for people to know a merger would happen and some maintenance people or people watching for mergers, right? I already did the steps to propose a merger in China. Am I missing anything? Thecommunitiesguy (talk | contribs) 18:55, 20 July 2026 (UTC)

@Thecommunitiesguy This page (Simple Talk) is often used to draw more attention to discussions. Not a lot of people monitor the categories (just look at the backlog in Category:Pages_to_merge!) — *Fehufangą ♮ ✉ Talk page 02:21, 21 July 2026 (UTC)