Black ghost wife and living husband: hesitant open relationship so she can have intimacy (NSFW)
Anonymous asked:
I’m writing a romcom where the leading lady is a black ghost woman, and I’ve made sure to write them as healthy a couple as I could. About halfway through the story, she goes to her not-dead husband (He’s a WASP, and also big on fidelity because of the P part), tells him that she misses sex, and asks if he’d be alright if she started a friends-with-benefits thing with the ghost who’s haunting the neighbors.
He’s not exactly thrilled at the thought of that, but they can’t have sex anymore, so they have a long chat where she makes it abundantly clear that there’ll be nothing romantic between her and and the neighbor ghost, and eventually the couple sort it all out and reach a compromise where he doesn’t feel like he’s getting cheated on and she can have her needs met.
And I realize this is speeding headlong at 120mph towards the promiscuous black girl stereotype, and so I’ve done everything I can think of to try to negate it. She’s very affectionate to him, I make it clear they only love each other, and of course, they have that little heart-to-heart before she goes to the neighbor ghost, but there’s no avoiding it because she’s the one who brought it up in the first place. So is there any other way I can make sure I only breeze over the stereotype like a speedbump instead of plowing right into it?
On stereotypes
Going in while aware of the stereotype sounds like a great start. I think having them talk about their relationship in an open and candid way shows their intentions. It sounds to me like they are negotiating how to open up their relationship to a third party (on her side) and if they discuss rules over exclusivity with their partners that it would counter the promiscuity issue.
That would however also open up the promiscuity stereotypes around polygamy though and keeping that in mind, broadening the perspective of what relationships might look like and what they are okay or not okay with would be good.
Aside from that, you’ll need to be mindful of how sexualized she’s portrayed on the page too, so having her be fleshed out, including having more than a “horny mode” (excuse me for a lack of better words).
~ Mod Alice
Ensure both sides consent to the arrangement
I’m not polyamorous, but I’ve read quite a few anecdotes where opening the relationship, so one partner can have sex, when the other person is unhappy about it, becomes the beginning of the end. Of course, neither were ghosts, but the point still stands.
So, please ensure your Black ghost wife is NOT coercing her husband into giving his blessing for her to have sex with others. That is, unless she is intentionally meant to be seen as more villainous or a possibly disliked character.
The polyamorous part, in itself, is not the potential pitfall; it is the fact that the husband is not okay with it. If he’s barely agreeing, then yes that can absolutely paint the Black character in a negative light beyond just hypersexualization. Again, if that’s your intention, so be it and perhaps add a more positive or neutral representation of a Black woman as well.
Now, if he agrees and either does become fine with it or grows into being okay with it, I think that’s an improvement, and consider all the things Alice mentioned above regarding your Black woman ghost’s characterization.
If it is not your intent to put her in a negative light, please ensure:
- She is not forcing him into agreeing
- It is truly a mutual decision
- Perimeters are set where they are both comfortable, happy and secure
Other ideas that may work
And this is an aside, but more of a story exploration, so take it with a grain of salt:
- Is it possible she could possess someone’s body in order for them to touch and connect physically?
- Meet on the astral plane? In dreams?
I’ve seen this done in a couple of works.
SPOILERS UPCOMING: The Lovely Bones and the Umbrella Academy
The Lovely Bones book by Alice Sebold comes to mind. The dead character, Susie, kisses and has sex with her crush. The living woman, that she possesses, consents to being a “vessel” for them to have this moment together.
Note: I do not support this author, as a person, and only share this scenario as an example.
There were also a few scenes in the Umbrella Academy TV series.
One of the dead characters possesses his necromancer brother in order to connect to a woman he has a crush on. There are other scenes where he happily experiences physical touch again, such as a hug from his other brother, eating fruit, and so on.
That is to say; there may even be platonic ways where your character misses touch and intimacy. Perhaps the husband is comfortable with her cuddling another to recreate that bond of touch. It does not all have to be about sex, although that may be part of it.
Also, how does, say, “autoeroticism” work in the ghost form? Is it possible? I feel like it’s something the husband would have brought up during the conversation, since he initially was not okay with the idea of her being with another person.
Possible resource for you
The video game Banishers: Ghosts of New Eden shows the complex relationship between a living and dead partner. This might be of inspiration when writing their dynamic overall!
Black and poly followers, feel free to chime in with any insights.
Mod Leigh adds some super key additions to this that should really help this story, so please check it out!
~Colette
Commenting as someone nonblack but polyamorous, with permission from Alice and Colette.
Men Have Needs, Too
To echo Colette: the biggest thing for me here is the inequality in the agreement with the husband. In all of this discussion, you’ve never really explained how he views having a dead wife he can no longer have sex with. Has this impacted him much? Has he been silently suffering? What’s his view in all of this as someone sexual himself and his needs aren’t being met either? Men are allowed to have healthy sexualities, too, and I’d honestly love to see more of it.
And for me that’s a tiny bit of a problem; the “why” he is unhappy with it feels like it comes from taking a stock Christian archetype and then letting it sit there. Like, this archetype doesn’t come out of nowhere—a lot of Protestants are really, really, really serious about marriage and not divorcing, even though permission to divorce is kind of the foundation of Anglican denominations but I digress—but it doesn’t have to be such a stock trope.
Because really—what does he feel about their life? Has he considered going out and dating because of this, but he hasn’t brought it up because of his own hang-ups? Does he have crushes, or does he want to use the oft-done “cheat pass” that some even devout Protestant couples set up? Is his bristling at change in the relationship dynamic give way to relief he has freedom to go get his own needs met, too?
He had life plans gone awry, just like she did. What freedom is he getting out of this, and how is this mutually beneficial? It has to be mutually beneficial for this to not look like the male character is being sidelined. He has grief, and needs, and plans too. What’s he going to get out of this other than “not feeling cheated on”?
WASP does not mean personality-less, and I want to see more development of his character. Devotion comes in many, many forms, not just rigid fidelity to someone who can’t meet all your needs.
Christianity, Marriages, and Ghosts
This section is written with the assumption of a devout lens, because you emphasize he takes marriage seriously from his faith. If this section feels like a lot for the story, consider dialing him back to a more Easter/Christmas Christian, or cultural Christian, instead of devout. The previous section about his needs and the following section about polyamoury still apply even if you do dial his faith back, however.



