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Caspar is my 6th GGF. Could I add him to my profile? How do I go about doing that?

I have been researching an ancestor for years. His name is Anthony Hite. He was born and married and had children in Frederick Co VA around the same time that Joist Hite was moving and shaking in Frederick Co. Joists protected profile is Heyd-15. I cannot find information connecting this family, except the location and Anthony’s presence at a wedding in the area where Joist was settling. Is anyone interested in helping me solve this puzzle? On some sites I see Anthony confuses with Alexander or Abraham Hite. But, I’m not sure that is legit.

I'm looking at a current Palatine digest I got in my email today. It refers to someone who is apparently named Cushwa Gouschois I. I couldn't tell which was supposed to be forename and which was surname, and neither pairing worked. I would like to find out the ID number for his profile so I can look at it and get some context for his name, but I've tried putting variations of it in FIND, and nothing comes up except over 500 profiles for "Cushwa" as a surname, but few or none of them are actually Cushwa. I also tried searching for prenomen Issac, surname Cushwa, and it brought up only one match which was Esaias Gushwa. I speak both French and German, so I'm hoping if I can see the profile, I might make some sense out of it, or get an idea for searching. Also, I couldn't figure out how to reply to an email in the digest, because the "click here to reply" doesn't work.

Thanks for any help you can give me!

Please correct the death date for Johann Nicholaus Schneider, (Schneider-2396) whose correct death date appears in the biography. He was killed along with his wife and some of their children in an Indian raid. If the death date for this person is correct, please remove him as husband of Anna Margaretha Wotring.

Could we please have the LNAB changed for Diependörff-1. See the comments on his profile. Several of us agree his LNAB should be Diependörffer. Thank you.

This question is regarding Zartman-6, Maria Catherine Zartman, who is listed as the wife of Schreckengast-31, Johann Heinrich Schreckengast (my ancestors). What is the source for giving her surname as Zartman? I have worked extensively with both the Schreckengost (by any spelling) and Zartmans, and I have never seen a surname for Henry Schr's wife. Henry's brother Conrad did marry Susanna Zartman, daughter of Hans Jacob Zartman, and Henry's son John married Anna Maria Greninger, daughter of Henry Greninger and Anna Maria Zartman (sister of Susanna who married Conrad Schr.). _The New Zartman Family Book_ doesn't list any Maria Catherine Zartman in its index.

Alexander Zartman immigrated to Penna. in 1728 (ship Albany) with not quite 6-year-old Hans, and not-quite 1-year-old Johann Bernhard. His son Alexander was born 3 years later, in 1731. Born in 1753 according to her profile, Maria Catherine Zartman would have been a granddaughter of Alexander. The book doesn't show any children for Johann Bernhard; the list of children of Hans Jacob doesn't include a Catherine, and the list of children of Alexander lists a Catherine born in 1761. As for Maria Catherine's place of birth, I can't find that there's a town in Germany called Wittenstein. It's a surname and thence the name of a tool manufacturing company. Ennepe-Ruhr-Kreis is made up of nine towns, one of which is called Witten, so maybe that's what's meant. It would seem that with such a specific location and date, a researcher would have been able to find a baptismal record and the names of parents. But with no source at all, it's impossible to verify her existence. Henry Schr.'s first known child was born in 1776, so he probably married in 1775. 11 years after his assumed arrival in Penna. with his father, so his wife was in Penna. before that 1775. With a surname that so far can't be verified, I suggest that we remove the surname from Maria Catherine, and change her surname to Unknown.

On profile Pfeiffer-276, there is a suggestion stating the birth date is different than what the Find A Grave source has. Could someone take a look at this please. Thank-you.

Recently three profiles I manage have had the Palatine migration box added and also Palatine Migration WikiTree account. All three are showing suggestions -- it's possible the suggestion list creation was between adding the account. Do you want to also manage these profiles? Or should these be have the Palatine Migration sticker? All three of these profiles are considered Salzburger emigrants and were worked on as such. Thanks,

Two months ago I suggested that Weidemann-22 and Wideman-275 should be merged, as they represent the same person. Both list as having arrived on the ship Sandwich (Weidemann-22 incorrectly lists as 1761, but source cited on Wideman-275 it was 1750. Both are listed as married to Obendorf-1. As Palatine Migration WikiTree is a profile manager for both, can they assist in merging these two profiles? As for the surname, I know of no records spelling the name as Weidemann as the one profile. As listed on Wideman-275, there are three known documents containing his original signature.

His immigration in 1750 as Johann Henrich Wäÿdmann, 1761 as Johann Henrich Weidmann, and his will as Henrich Weidmann. The spelling in most contemporary American records and used by descendants is Wideman.

I'm not sure my 5th GGfather, George Kriebel (Kriebel-41) qualifies for the Palatine Migration. George was from Silesia, not Germany ... not anywhere near the Palatine area. Plus, George emigrated through England, only briefly staying in Germany. Does this project include all German-speaking people?

Hi - I do not believe that Selier-412 is the wife of Berkey-6 (Christian Berkey Sr), but perhaps the wife of his brother John, who is to have married a woman of the same name. (See https://e-gen.info/?page_id=4662, Child no 3)

Hi. I added 2 marriage sources for Ursula-27 (Maria Elizabeth Huber formerly Ursula) but didn't feel confident about changing her name in the profile. Is it possible for someone in the project to review my sources and determine whether the profile warrants the change? I have included the source links below (as well as in the profile) for your convenience. Thanks for all the hard work you do to preserve the records and memories of so many ancestors!

Deby

Original marriage record showing maiden name as: Maria Ursula Mauchenheimerin (also seen as Mauch)

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPKX-VS92?lang=en

Transcribed marriage record with same date showing maiden name as: Maria Ursula Mauch (also seen as Mauchenheimerin)

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J4BM-7P8

Hi Kie and Dave,

My curiosity got the better of me and I did research on the Jacob Stuber that came in 1709. I found his wife's nephew on wikitree, Johann Peter Mann (1711 - 1790), and then added his father Johan Henrich Mann (1681) , (b Germany, died New York), then added his father Hans Peter Mann (1643 - 1687), (b, d Germany) then added his daughter Anna Catharina (Mann) Stuber (1672), , (b Germany, died New York) then added her husband Hans Jacob Stuber, (b Germany, died New York)

As I was looking to see if any of his children were on wikitree I found Maria Catherina Stuber mixed in with Anna Catharina (Salbach) Rau (1695 - 1748) , and the husbands mixed together in Johannes Rau (1699 - 1768)

I have separated them and created new profiles for Anna Maria Catharina Stuber (1697), and Johann Jurgen Rau (abt. 1690) both born Germany died New York.

(I think it's called falling down a wikitree rabbit hole, but the cat has survived. ) The connections are all sourced and I will give all the profiles another look for additional info.

Joan

I have searched on site in Switzerland the Sumiswald, Bern, CH, the Trachselwald, Bern, CH, Oberbuchsiten, Solothurn, CH and the Stallikon, Zurich, CH church records to the best of my ability, and have found nothing on the "Durs Theodorus Aebi/Eby" supposidly born 25 April 1663. I still have to search in a few more places.

Fred Hebel

Hi Palatine Migration project, I have encountered some confusing parts of the tree I am hoping the community here can help sort out.

Michael Carman (1708) father of Michael Carman (1747) seems to have unclear marriages, and Michael Carman (1747) seems to have undetermined mother.

UEL records here: https://uelac.ca/loyalist-directory/detail/?wpda_search_column_id=1281 claim Michael Carman (1708) was married to a Magdalena Walter (1709-1801)

Michael Carman (1747, son of Michael Carman 1708) does not have a mother listed on UEL records: https://uelac.ca/loyalist-directory/detail/?wpda_search_column_id=1279

On one wikitree profile: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Zier-3 Magdalena Zier Carman (1712 - 1789) is listed as wife of Michael Carman (1708) and mother of Michael Carman (1747)

On another, Magdalena Walter (1709 - 1733) https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Walter-1706 is listed as mother of Maria Carman (b. abt 1733) https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Kirman-5, who is listed as a daughter of Michael Carman (1708), and sister of Michael Carman (1747)

To me, to seems we do know that Michael Carman (1708) was married to a woman named Magdalena, but I cannot find definitive evidence linking Magdalena (Walter or Zier) to Michael Carman (1708)

I do find it interesting that the daughter Maria Carman (b. abt 1733) https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Kirman-5, who is listed as a daughter of Michael Carman (1708), and sister of Michael Carman (1747) married a man with the surname Walter. Perhaps somehow got conflated with mother's name, or potential cousin?

Most ancestry trees claim Magdalena Zier, some Walter, but records are in German, and I can't verify if they are accurate.

to sum it up, was Kirman-2 married to Zier-3 or Walter-1706, or both, or neither? And what are the correct dates of birth/death/marriage?

Hi, I am new to the Palatine Migration Project and to Wikitree in general. Do I understand correctly that I can't edit anyone born before 1700? Who do I ask to make edits? My question is about Coon-1269, Hanness Coon. Given that there are so many people named Coon/Kuhn/Coen/Kuehn and many other spellings, and so many men named Hanness/Hans/Johannes/John, I wonder if there is a discussion where members are trying to untangle them.

Hans ffellacoons was definitely on Gov. Hunter's list of orphans, definitely apprenticed to Caleb Heathcote of Scarsdale, NY, and definitely born in 1695. I can trace him and his family on their journey to New York, but not for him after he became apprenticed. Some people think he became Johann Veltin Kuhn. Others think he became Hanness Coon.

Is anybody working on the Coon/Kuhn family and how can we help each other?

Thanks!

Heuer-48- Can someone from the team please remove the opening that says - need sources- I think it is a Category- I have worked on her husband, her 5 children. Hopefully any mistakes will be minor as I have gone through them all numerous times. I will continue to monitor the profiles for a while because there are several mergers, and linked profiles to be unlinked based on evidence against them being linked. Any major issues- please contact me- to discuss as I enjoy working collaboratively.

I have been working on adding information to some of the second- generation Jacoby family - see Henry Jacoby aka Jacobi - Jacoby-225, John, George, and their sister. I would like to be able to add information to Henry's older brother Conrad Heuer Jacoby- Jacoby-158 and Henry's father Petrus (Peter) Jacoby formerly Jacobi- Jacobi-176 however, these 2 are under the management of the Palatine Migration Project. I am not the manager of any of the Jacoby files, but I am connected through my maternal grandmother's sister who married into the Foresman family who are connected to Henry's daughter. Do I have to sign up for the Palatine Team to be able to work on Peter and Conrad. Thanks for taking time to read this. Debbie

Klingler-251, Johannes Klingler. Please take a look at my profile. I was a member of Palatines To America through him and his wife.

I would like to know if Wildemann-10 qualifies as a Palatine Migrant.

Regard, Gerry

I believe George Carper Hise (Hise-326) should be part of the Palatine Migration Project. He surfaced in the 1776 Project list of profiles needing a biography, so we gave him one. It undoubtedly needs more improvements.

Betty ~ 1776 Project Leader

Why is it, that most every palatinate profile page on this site, is either not completed or filled with false, fake or show a lackadaisical effert in correcting any data? If no one is willing to do the job, why are we still requesting people to join a project, that is unwilling to do what is required?

Hello! Meyer-8331 should be part of the Palatine Project. Her current profile is poorly sourced and may have incorrect information. She looks to be the wife of Heinrich Dubendorffer, who arrived in 1734 with children Rudolf, Anna, and Barbara.

Laura White Scheinoha

Philipp Wendel Klein and his family arrived in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania in 1744 aboard the Phoenix, [List 106 C] Phoenix, Captain: William Wilson, From: Rotterdam, By Way of: Cowes, Arrival: Philadelphia, 20 Oct 1744 Profiles are: Klein-6865, Unknown-570242, Kline-1034, Klein-6975, Klein-6343, Klein-6984 I believe all of them should be listed as part of the Palatine Migration.

As far as I know, these Kleins are not part of my line. I am seeking someone with Y-DNA from that line to verify, but no luck so far. I am working on this line because both have sons Adam and Jacob: My Adam was married to an Anna Maria unknown, and Johann Jacob, married to a Anna Eva (Dusong). Philipp Wendell Klein's eldest son is (Johann) John Adam was married to Anna Maria Unknown, and second son( Johann) Jacob married to a Anna Eva according to the Truby-Graf book listed as a reference. The children of both families were born around the same time, have similar names and dates in the Truby-Graff book. The baptism records that I found and have been using for my Klein brothers may have been mistaken for or muddled with Philipp Wendel's sons. I feel certain I have the correct children identified in my line, and will make the small corrections where necessary. Given that Philipp Wendel was a founding member of the Ziegel Lutheran Church where many of these baptisms took place, I am not sure if I should delete those records from my profiles or not. Is it possible the Truby-Graf book is incorrect? Looking for some advice, because I am really flummoxed by this.

I would like to remove the connection of Ertz-61 from Klein-6361. Having two wives on his profile is confusing. To the best of my knowledge, and as a result of much research, I have found no source to show Adam Klein-6361 was married more than once, and I do think both wives listed are intended to represent the same person. There are two sources that confirm the mother of two of Adams children is named Anna Maria, so there is no dispute with that, but no last name is given. I do think it is perfectly reasonable to note on both Klein-6361 and Unknown-505006, that Ertz has been suggested as the possible last name for Adam's wife, but in the absence of a source Adam Klein was specifically married to Anna Maria Ertz, Ertz-61, should not be attached to Adam Klein. I may have been overly zealous in adding Palatine migrant tags and so I also suggest we remove that tag from Unknown-505006. Thanks for hearing me out.

I would like to propose a merge of Lukenbell-1 and Luckenbill-32. There are numerous variations on the name "Luckenbill" and several of them seem to be the same person. These two both seem to be Johan Ekel Luckenbill who arrived aboard the Thistle in Philadelphia, 1730. Little is known directly about the man. A Heinrich Luckenbill was also aboard (Heinrich signed his own name, Johann used an "X"). They are believed to be brothers (Morton's history) and Johan is believed to have been accompanied by a wife and one daughter, Anna Barbara (b1721) who married a Johannes Kistler. Less is even known about Heinrich, although he too would be a Palantine Immigrant. Both also signed the allegiance pledges. They eventually settled in Berks County, Pa, and multiple "Luckenbills" emerged. The earliest are a John Adam Luckenbill (b 1720) who would have been on the Thistle, but too young to be named. A John Ludwig (born around 1735 in Berks moved to NC and bought land in 1758. He's recorded in a family history of the Farleys, by Lucy Farley Speer. Jost Luckenbill married to Susanna is the father of my descendant Christian Benjamin Luckenbill (b 1774) and part of the Morton history which is really confusing to work through with the numerous Christians getting blended and mixed up. Anna Barbara, John Ludwig, Adam, and Jost are most likely children or grandchildren of Johann Ekel (or perhaps Heinrich). Another Christian (b 1741) is reported as a son of Johan Ekel by Family Search and a son of Adam by the Strausstown Roots group. There is obviously much to clean up and I would appreciate and help and guidance you all could provide. One immediate question is how to fix what I think are errors - before or after the merges? I have adopted several unclaimed "Luckenbills" (I feel some loyalty to the name having used it for a number of years), but not all are direct descendants. I have completed the Ancestry DNA , but am not sure how to use it to possible get some connections or clarity about the Luckenbill descendants. Thanks for any help.

Judy Luckenbill Brett

We should include all four listed children of Lannin-19 and Schnell-268 in the migration. They came together on same ship as parents. Thanks. JSC

Greetings Dave and Ellen,

• I recently proposed 4 merges related to Hans Michael Gutknecht.
• Since Hans Michael Gutknecht (Gutknecht-90) is a Palatine Migration Project profile, I thought I should contact you first to get your opinion and 'blessing'. I first attempted to merge Isaac Goodnight (Goodnight-530) with Isaac Goodnight (Goodnight-6), but was reminded to first merge his parents.
• These are the proposed merges (in order that they should be merged, I believe):
• 1. Christopher Landers (Landers-1293) into Christopher Landis (Landis-12)
• 2. Mary Landers (Landers-1290) into Mary Landis (Landis-57) (Landis being the correct spelling, I believe)
• 3. Hans Michael Gutknecht (Gutknecht-87) into Hans Michael Gutknecht (Gutknecht-90)
• 4. Isaac Goodnight (Goodnight-530) into Isaac Goodnight (Goodnight-6)
• Christopher Landis/Landers was the father of Mary Landis/Landers.
• Mary Landis/Landers was second wife of Hans Michael Gutknecht.
• Isaac Goodnight was the youngest son of Hans Michael Gutknecht.
• Approval has been made for (Gutknecht-87): John Sissom (Sissom-18), and (Gutknecht-90): Bill Vincent (Vincent-18).
• Approval has been made for (Goodnight-6): Doug Cooper (Cooper-11817), and (Goodnight-530): default
• Awaiting approval from Dave McDougle (McDougle-1) for (Landis-12) and (Landis-57).
• Dave McDougle is also on the trusted list of Hans Michael Gutknecht.
• Hans Michael Gutknecht was my 4th Great Grandfather (confidence = high).
• Once these merges have been completed, there will be other merges concerning Isaac Goodnight's wives.

Thank you in advance for any and all assistance and advice. Respectfully, Luther Brown

Greetings, I am trying to find the father of Henry Samual Teter, Sr He is the link to Germany from our family over here in the late 1600's. My 6th Ggfather. Teter-115

Looking over the bio for Johann Peter Heydrich Sr (1710-1789), I noticed that most, if not all, of the details in it described the life of his son by the same name, Johann Peter (Heydrich) Hedrick Jr. (1732-1798), rather than the life of the father. I don't know if I accidentally submitted this bio, or someone else. If no one has any objections, I would like to remove this bio, and blend it in with the bio of Johann Peter (Heydrich) Hedrick Jr. (1732-1798), while replacing the bio of Johann Peter Heydrich Sr (1710-1789) with one that more accurately describes his life.

Hi! I'm on Ranger duty and noticed a change to LNAB on a profile managed & protected by the Palatine Migration Project but don't see support for one spelling over another. Could you take a look? Rahmsauer-1 (which is about the only variation not given in one of the comments).