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Longewal

Latest comment: 9 days ago13 comments6 people in discussion

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Request concerning Longewal

User who is submitting this request for enforcement: Zalaraz (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 16:34, 18 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

User against whom enforcement is requested: Longewal (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Search CT alerts: in user talk history • in system log

Sanction or remedy to be enforced: Wikipedia:CT/SA

Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it

08:20, 23 September 2025 - violation of ECR by referring to the Rajput caste's history. (Warned by admin for the same (Special:Diff/1313147286))
00:45 30 September 2025 - violation of ECR again. He acknowledged this violation.
21:55, 23 October 2025 - Violations of WP:AGF and WP:ASPERSIONS; "My concern is that these rules are fostering an insular group of editors focused on South-Asia topics. This allows them to dictate consensus, often at the expense of neutrality. I'm starting to see a troubling pattern of like-minded views, and this gatekeeping is a real problem."
00:43, 11 November 2025 - Replacing India and Pakistan with excessively broad and POV term "Indian subcontinent".
01:48, 11 November 2025 - Referring to territorial expansion of Mughal empire under Aurangzeb using a map.
03:00, 11 November 2025 -Violation of ECR, also misinterpreting the image caption as saying expansion caused higher GDP when the caption clearly makes a distinction between the two sentences using a conjunction.
02:17, 11 November 2025 - stating that IVC sites in Afghanistan are covered by the term "Indian subcontinent.
20:04, 13 November 2025 - Repeating the same misinterpretation of caption even after clarification was provided (Special:Diff/1321581179)
23:05, 16 November 2025- referring to his proposed territorial map of the empire, thereby referring to its expansion even after the ECR warning

Additionally, it is also clear that this user is wikihounding me:

Zalaraz (talk) 16:34, 18 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

@Voorts: Let me add a few words regarding the diffs I have already provided: Longewal is engaging in:

1) continued violation of ECR, given Mughal Empire territorial expansion under Aurangzeb is a military topic as these expansions occurred only through military conquests (diff 5)

2) wikihounding me by arriving on the controversial articles that were recently edited by me and reverted me on at least 3 of them.

3) See diff 4, he is POV pushing to suppress words like "Pakistan" and "Aurangzeb", in line with Hindutva POV that seeks to discredit Pakistan and Aurangzeb.[1][2][3]

Longewal is now disrupting another controversial topic, i.e., Muhammad[4] using AI (Talk:Aisha#Marriage_of_Muhammad_and_Aisha), a similar observation was made by me as well. Zalaraz (talk) 01:55, 24 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

Diffs of previous relevant sanctions, if any

Date Explanation
Date Explanation

If contentious topics restrictions are requested, supply evidence that the user is aware of them (see WP:CTOP#Awareness of contentious topics): [5]
Additional comments by editor filing complaint

Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Longewal&diff=prev&oldid=1322921494

Discussion concerning Longewal

Statements must be made in separate sections. They may not exceed 500 words and 20 diffs, except by permission of a reviewing administrator.
Administrators may remove or shorten noncompliant statements. Disruptive contributions may result in blocks.

Statement by Longewal

Longewal's statement contains 492 words and complies with the 500-word limit.

I am a newer editor working towards EC status. I take the CTOP restrictions seriously. I admit I wasn't fully aware of the policy in the very beginning, but always reached out to admins for clarification. This report is an attempt by the filer to weaponize enforcement proceedings to win content disputes regarding Economic history of India and Sati (practice). See relevant talk page discussions: (1), (2), and (3)

Regarding ECR (Indian Mil History/India Caste): The filer accuses me of violating ECR restrictions by discussing a map of the Mughal Empire. I specifically sought administrative clarification on this exact issue to ensure compliance. Administrator Newslinger reviewed the situation and stated:
I do not see Longewal's disputed edits as blatant WP:ECR violations... most of the Economic history of India article is not military-related. Diff

I have adhered to this guidance. My edits concerned the economic scope of the empire (GDP and territory), not military conflict.

Regarding ASPERSION and AGF accusations: I don't think my comment there is an attack on anyone but a general comment on how the broad restrictions on South Asia related topics creates an insular environment. In hindsight, I should have been more careful with the words. However, these were personal views left on an admin's page and they didn't seem to take those unkindly. On that note, it must be noted that the filer has made it a habit of reading my comments as ASPERSION and AGF on talk page discussions when they are clearly not. They have been warned that their accusations are wrong by another experienced editor before.
I don't see anything that rises to the level of WP:ASPERSIONS here, Zalaraz... They did imply disruption on your part with how you've approached the content dispute, but there too they are expressing a your-mileage-may-vary opinion and didn't suggest that you were acting in bad faith so much as not responding the policy arguments. Diff

Regarding "Wikihounding" and conduct: The filer and I edit the same high-traffic South Asian history articles; overlap is natural. However, the filer has consistently responded to editorial disagreement with personal attacks and aspersions, rather than policy-based discussion.

False accusations of using AI: On Talk:Sati (practice), when I engaged in a policy discussion, the filer baselessly accused me of using AI to generate my comments. The filer was explicitly warned by editor Snow Rise regarding these personal attacks:
There is no consensus on the reliability of supposed 'AI detectors' (themselves a form of LLM technology), and in fact, a great deal of skepticism about their accuracy. I've looked at both of the TP contributions that you flagged, and for various reasons I find it highly doubtful that they are not human-generated. Regardless, Longewal eventually made clear that their position was that they wrote at least the first comment and you persisted with the accusation on the basis of your suspicions.
More to the point, none of this is relevant discussion for an article talk page. If you had concerns about their using LLM generated TP comments, you should have raised them with those with them on their user talk or talking the discussion to a relevant behavioural conduct space. Diff

Regarding Content Disputes: The filer cites my support for the term "Indian subcontinent" (over "India and Pakistan") for the Indus Valley Civilisation era as a sanction-able offense. This is a standard NPOV disagreement regarding historical geography, currently under discussion on the Talk page. I even agreed to accepting "South Asia" as a compromise. It is not vandalism or disruption. In fact, I have given really solid arguments explaining why I propose removal of country names. Bringing up content disputes in active discussion as a sanction-able user conduct issue is a misuse of this process.

I have followed admin guidance regarding ECR topics and attempted to discuss content on Talk pages, while the filer has resorted to aspersions and forum-shopping. Longewal (talk) 22:48, 18 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

Statement by Newslinger

I am posting in this section because some of my actions and comments about ECR are effectively under review. Regarding the Economic history of India article, Longewal initially changed the lead image from File:Aurangzeb-portrait.jpg to File:Joppen1907India1700a.jpg and the corresponding caption from "Aurangzeb expanded the Mughal Empire and made it the region with largest GDP in the 17th century" to "Under the Mughal Empire reached its greatest territorial extent, making India the largest economy in the world by the end of the 17th century". Zalaraz reverted the edit, and Longewal subsequently started a discussion at Talk:Economic history of India § Lede image and geography wording.

Aurangzeb was an emperor of the Mughal Empire who engaged in territorial expansion through military action. However, the disputed content in the Economic history of India article refers only to the economic impact of the territorial expansion and not the means by which it was conducted. As territorial expansion (in general) can also be accomplished by non-military means, I do not see Longewal's Aurangzeb-related edits on the Economic history of India article and its talk page as blatant ECR violations. The disputed content's close proximity to the ECR-covered Indian military history subtopic does make it more difficult for Longewal and other editors who are not extended confirmed (EC) to discuss the topic, which is why I advised against non-EC editors participating in discussions that are prone to crossing into the restricted subtopic, at which point non-EC editors must disengage.

I am interested to hear other opinions on whether my determination was appropriate. In my opinion, all editors would benefit if determinations regarding whether a subject is covered by ECR were indexed on a centralised page to provide more certainty for non-EC editors on whether they are able to participate in discussions about subjects that are close to a restricted topic. — Newslinger talk 15:41, 19 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

@Longewal: In light of the discussion at Talk:Aisha § Marriage of Muhammad and Aisha and your removal of non-wikitext markup in Special:Diff/1323495224, could you please clarify the extent to which you are using a large language model (such as an AI chatbot) to author edits on Wikipedia, including your statement in this discussion? You'll have to request a word limit extension to answer. — Newslinger talk 22:13, 23 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

@Voorts: Yes, I brought it up only because Longewal discussed AI in their statement. — Newslinger talk 22:24, 23 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

@Longewal: Please disregard my question here for now. Thanks. — Newslinger talk 23:39, 23 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

Statement by Katzrockso

I am not too familiar with these editors, but the only of those 3 editor interaction timlines that even remotely implies Wikihouding is the one for Hindu rate of growth. The other edits have weeks in-between. Moreover, the edits Longewal made to Women in Hinduism don't even seem to be on the same section of the article as the edits Zalaraz made. From what I can tell, the same goes for Economic history of India. The only overlap between the two editors on the same content appears to be on the Hindu rate of growth, where Zalaraz added [6] "Hindutva historical revisionist" as a descriptor for Sanjeev Sanyal and Longewal removed it [7]. One edit doesn't really make Wikihounding.Katzrockso (talk) 12:10, 21 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

Statement by (username)

Result concerning Longewal

This section is to be edited only by uninvolved administrators. Comments by others will be moved to the sections above.

Calling diff 6 an ECR violation is a real stretch. -- asilvering (talk) 02:21, 19 November 2025 (UTC)Reply
Diffs 1 and 2 are stale/have been dealt with. Diff 3 is a criticism of ARBCOM/a generalized complaint, not specific aspersions against particular editors. I see no issues with diffs 6-9. This filing feels a bit overzealous. voorts (talk/contributions) 21:55, 23 November 2025 (UTC)Reply
@Newslinger: I don't believe that Islamic history is within the scope of any CTOP. voorts (talk/contributions) 22:20, 23 November 2025 (UTC)Reply
@Newslinger: If there's persistent disruption via AI editing across topic areas, I think that should be taken to ANI. voorts (talk/contributions) 23:24, 23 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

Iljhgtn

Latest comment: 9 hours ago53 comments22 people in discussion

Iljhgtn is topic-banned from content about political living people. Vanamonde93 (talk) 21:14, 2 December 2025 (UTC)Reply

The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.

This request may be declined without further action if insufficient or unclear information is provided in the "Request" section below.
Requests may not exceed 500 words and 20 diffs (not counting required information), except by permission of a reviewing administrator.

Request concerning Iljhgtn

User who is submitting this request for enforcement: Newslinger (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 14:43, 21 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

User against whom enforcement is requested: Iljhgtn (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Search CT alerts: in user talk history • in system log

Sanction or remedy to be enforced

Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it

8–25 July 2025 on Elliott Broidy: Deletion of 9,332 net bytes of content, including some content related to the 1Malaysia Development Berhad scandal (see deleted Bloomberg citation for details)
4 August – 1 September 2025 on Elliott Broidy: Deletion of 19,659 net bytes of content, including all remaining mentions of "1MDB"
03:38, 30 October 2025 on Pras, edit summary: "trivial connection to Pras"
- "In the plea documents of former DOJ employee George Higginbotham, Michel was accused of ~~paying Republican fundraiser Elliott Broidy and others~~ making payments to have Guo extradited to China."
  - Source: Mother Jones article about Pras, which mentioned "Broidy" 21 times
03:40, 30 October 2025 on Lee S. Wolosky, edit summary: "trivial connection to Wolosky"
- "Wolosky led or co-led some of the firm's high-profile matters, including the firm's representation of Greenberg~~, its representation of former RNC Vice Chair Elliott Broidy~~ in litigation against Qatar"
  - Sources: NYT and WaPo articles about the litigation, which mention "Broidy" 44 times combined, but do not mention Greenberg
03:44, 30 October 2025 on Rex Tillerson, edit summary: "Edited to best summ. reference(s)"
- «reported that Lebanese-American businessman George Nader ~~turned Trump's major fundraiser Elliott Broidy~~ made the Trump administration "into an instrument of influence ~~at the White House~~ ...for the rulers of Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates ... High on the agenda of the two men ... was pushing the White House to remove Secretary of State Rex W. Tillerson"»
  - Source: NYT, which mentions "Broidy" 39 times
23:33, 1 November 2025 on Louis DeJoy, edit summary "Full bio labels"
- "along with Trump's then-lawyer Michael Cohen ~~and the~~, as well as venture capitalist and philanthropist Elliott Broidy"
  - Source: WNYC, which details how "Broidy had pled guilty eight years earlier in a pay-to-play scheme involving public pension investments", but does not describe any philanthropy
00:36, 5 November 2025: On Shera Bechard, edit summary: "undue for blp here"
- Removal of "~~Sex scandal with Elliott Broidy~~" section: "The Wall Street Journal reported in April 2018 that Bechard was having an affair with Republican fundraiser Elliott Broidy. After becoming pregnant by Broidy in late 2017, Bechard had an abortion. Her lawyer, Keith Davidson, negotiated the payment of US$1.6 million as money for silence through Michael Cohen, U.S. President Donald Trump's lawyer at that time. On July 6, 2018, Bechard filed a lawsuit against Broidy, Davidson and Michael Avenatti in California, alleging that Broidy had stopped paying the rest of the money for her silence."
- Removal of sources: WSJ, NYT, NY Daily News, WSJ again, and CNBC
01:54, 13 November 2025 on Timeline of investigations into Donald Trump and Russia (January–June 2018), edit summary: "Adding/removing wikilink(s); weighted mention"
- "reports that Mueller has given George Nader immunity from prosecution for his testimony relating to his foreign lobbying ~~in relation to Elliott Broidy and~~ on behalf of the United Arab Emirates"
  - Source: NYT, which mentions "Broidy" 39 times
- "reports that George Nader has testified to Mueller that he wired $2.5 million ~~to Elliott Broidy via a Canadian company~~ to fund a lobbying campaign to Republican members of Congress to persuade the U.S. to take a hard line against Qatar"
  - Source: AP, which mentions "Broidy" 34 times
02:22, 13 November 2025 on Timeline of investigations into Donald Trump and Russia (January–June 2019), edit summary: "Adding/removing wikilink(s); weighted mention"
- "reports federal authorities ~~raided Republican fundraiser Elliott Broidy's office in July 2018,~~ carried out a raid seeking materials related to foreign officials' dealings with Trump administration associates"
  - Sources: The Daily Beast and ProPublica, the latter of which mentions "Broidy" 30 times
20:12, 11 September 2025: On Euro-Mediterranean Human Rights Monitor, edit summary: "Adding/improving reference(s) Adding detail(s) Adding/removing wikilink(s)"
- Added content: "Although it claims to be independent, there have been reports of the organization's links to the Hamas terrorist group."
- Added source: JewishOnliner.org (a self-published Substack blog self-described as "AI-empowered" and "Pro-Jewish, Pro-Israel, Pro-West")
03:32, 11 May 2025 (oversighted): At User talk:Trs9k § Cody Wilson Talk Page; see unredacted portion of edit
- Added content (unredacted part shown): "@Gcollins94 Near (Redacted), eh?"
  - Received reply from editor formerly known as Gcollins94: "Frankly, pointing out my location, making multiple comments to my talk page and here, following me to multiple spaces - it's borderline harassment and I'd like for you to stop it."
- After being warned by an oversighter for doxing, Iljhgtn deleted the warning 14 minutes later with the edit summary "archive" and did not archive it.
- Associated with dispute on Cody Wilson article (covered by WP:CT/AP, WP:CT/BLP, WP:CT/GC, and ~~WP:GS/CRYPTO~~ WP:CT/GG)

Diffs of previous relevant sanctions, if any

6 February 2024: Briefly blocked then unblocked for disruptive editing (adding WP:ENGVAR tags to talk pages en masse), which was followed by a discussion about Iljhgtn's use of misleading edit summaries

If contentious topics restrictions are requested, supply evidence that the user is aware of them (see WP:CTOP#Awareness of contentious topics)

Alerted about contentious topics in the area of conflict, on 26 April 2024 (WP:CT/AP), 2 December 2024 (WP:CT/BLP), and 1 June 2025 (WP:CT/A-I); see the system log linked to above.
Placed a {{Contentious topics/aware}} template for the area of conflict on their own talk page.

Additional comments by editor filing complaint

The above diffs show that Iljhgtn has been removing reliably sourced content about Elliott Broidy en masse across numerous Wikipedia articles. This listing is not exhaustive; see Iljhgtn's related edits to other articles in the associated noticeboard filing at NPOVN. Iljhgtn's edits here, as a whole, constitute advocacy editing in favor of Broidy that is not representative of the cited reliable sources. Based on the above, I believe Iljhgtn should be topic banned from Elliott Broidy, broadly construed.

A secondary concern is Iljhgtn's tendency to use edit summaries that do not clearly indicate the full nature of their edits. A review of Iljhgtn's edit summary history would not have suggested that Iljhgtn's mass content removals outside of the Elliott Broidy article were related to Broidy. I also noticed this pattern when I recently warned Iljhgtn for their edit warring on the WP:CT/AP-covered article The Epoch Times; Iljhgtn deleted the warning with the edit summary "archive", despite not having archived it. In addition to the topic ban from Elliott Broidy, I believe Iljhgtn should be warned to use accurate edit summaries. — Newslinger talk 14:44, 21 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

@Anastrophe: The post-block discussion began with Mathglot's comment referencing a previous discussion not involving you. Iljhgtn's "potted" edit summaries are relevant to the issues here (diffs #5/8/9), so I don't see a need to strike this. — Newslinger talk 20:51, 22 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

@Iljhgtn: DanikS88 didn't edit any page you deleted Broidy-related content from (except Elliott Broidy). — Newslinger talk 21:16, 22 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

Expanded filing to encompass WP:CT/A-I and added diff #10 to supplement diffs shared by others. Courtesy ping: Iljhgtn. — Newslinger talk 22:46, 22 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

Expanded filing to encompass WP:CT/BLP to better reflect scope of disruptive editing. — Newslinger talk 01:29, 23 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

@Iljhgtn: Could you explain why you apparently doxed another editor's location in the oversighted diff #11 (just added)? — Newslinger talk 16:20, 23 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

@Metallurgist: You've acknowledged diffs #6–9, but overlooked many other diffs submitted by me and others. I disagree with "clemency"; this AE discussion uncovered Iljhgtn's extensive scope of disruption. Timed topic bans are ineffective, in my experience, and should be indefinite instead. I have more diffs (if needed) after Iljhgtn addresses the doxing. — Newslinger talk 10:38, 24 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested

Special:Diff/1323401525

Discussion concerning Iljhgtn

Statements must be made in separate sections. They may not exceed 500 words and 20 diffs, except by permission of a reviewing administrator.
Administrators may remove or shorten noncompliant statements. Disruptive contributions may result in blocks.

Statement by Iljhgtn

Iljhgtn's statement contains 1113 words and complies with the 1500-word limit.

Extension granted to 1500 words. voorts (talk/contributions) 21:34, 23 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

In May 2025, I was removing what I felt was WP:UNDUE material from the leads of articles. I came across Elliot Broidy's page, which was a mess at the time and a violation of BLP standards. [8]

A blocked sock user:DanikS88 was editing the page at the time and adding UNDUE material. [9]

Further example of DanikS88's editing: [10]

Further example of DanikS88's editing: [11]

After I saw what this editor was doing, I searched for related pages where they and others were adding UNDUE material about this figure. Most of my edits were not challenged at the time, other than a handful. In the few cases where the edits related to this person were reverted, I did not edit war on any of these. In any of these cases, a talk page discussion or revert per WP:BRD is part of our normal editing procedure.

I let my OCD get the best of me, and sometimes I go too far down one particular tunnel or another, and in some of this it appears that is what happened. As was the case in the past, I do my best to improve, I will commit to improving my edit summaries and can limit form-fit edit summaries to edits which are sure to be uncontroversial (such as the thousands of book cover images, film posters, AfDs, talk page commentary, and other edits that I make, for which I regularly get "thanks" and barnstars etc.). Lastly, I can easily voluntarily abstain from editing Elliott Broidy stuff broadly construed. Thank you. Iljhgtn (talk) 20:51, 22 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

@Voorts The Somali name for Omar was proposed by a Somali editor, who I supported. Some Somali language sources were provided, but dismissed as not reliable. Also, other American politicians had foreign language names on their articles with no sourcing, so I found it odd that this was made an exception. That they are all Democrats is irrelevant as there are no elected Somalis from any other party. This seems to have support from Somali editors, but there was other opposition to it, and I moved on. Iljhgtn (talk) 21:30, 22 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

@Newslinger That is where I began and then I looked at other pages that might have had similar issues. If the core BLP page had these problems, which seem to have originated from a sock account, then I felt it was reasonable to go looking at other pages. Iljhgtn (talk) 21:40, 22 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

This began as a limited AE just related to a BLP and related pages, which I agreed I went too deep on and would accept a topic ban on this figure. If there are other concerns related to editing, it may well exceed 500 words. Also, I will note that this was preceded by some apparent coordination and canvassing by several editors on Wikipediocracy on a thread started by user:Lightbreather to bring me down (screenshots and evidence can be provided). Iljhgtn (talk) 21:12, 23 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

@Voorts I know I should not have mentioned a location in that comment, but it was not my intention to dox the editor. I lived in the area for some time and thought it was cool. It was also the general area, not a specific address.

For HEB's claim I was careful to abide by the 1RR in place on that page and I respect revert rules. My reasoning is that the "right wing" label was already included in the linked subject's article, but felt it was not needed for this article.

For cite 97, there is one mention of "Conservative" in the body before my changes, and I did not feel mentioning it in the lead was supported, and I did not edit war on this article. I understand that the other editor disagreed with me, and I generally would also go to the talk page to try and find agreement with my reading of the sources.

I don't think The Epoch Times edits can fairly be called edit-warring. I made an edit on October 28. Newslinger reverted it on October 30, and I reverted once the same day. And then did not touch it again until November 17. Other editors also contributed to this each way. As for the short description, I felt it was too long, so I shortened it, was reverted, and I did not touch it again.

For Unity of Fields, my edits were sourced, even if some may dispute the amount and quality of the sources. "Far-left" was used as a descriptor in The New York Times. "Proscribed" is primary, however it is a government source describing a government action, but I agree I should have looked for a secondary to support it further. And critics do in fact claim the group promotes terrorism and violence, which was sourced, but I could have more clearly attributed the claim.

For Nerdeen Kiswani, I attempted to add sourced statements, I was reverted a first time, I restored the content once, was reverted by a different editor and I moved on. I don't feel that is edit-warring.

In regard to alleged political bias in my editing, though I come from a centrist perspective, per WP:NPOV, I ultimately just wish to see all reliable sources represented. I think that I have demonstrated above how I mostly do accept consensus, though it sometimes takes time. I maintain that WP:CCC. Generally, my edits on an article are well spaced out so that others are allowed to comment and build consensus that might disagree with me, and when I am truly in the minority in my perspective then I concede after that becomes clear. The WP:DUE/WP:UNDUE consideration is one that each and every page and every section and every editor must weigh when editing Wikipedia.

I do believe that I can improve in many areas. I promise to use more descriptive edit summaries and engage more collaboratively with other editors going forward. Iljhgtn (talk) 04:49, 25 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

I also just uninstalled this script (User:Iljhgtn/MyEditSummaries.js) that someone had graciously helped me to put together a long time ago, I think maybe anastrophe? Thank you. Iljhgtn (talk) 05:49, 25 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

@Voorts Thank you for your evenhanded approach throughout this process, I still have more word count and would be happy to further address any concerns. You said below that "we're not persuaded by their [my] explanations" thus far. Please let me know how my explanations have fallen short or what you might like further clarification on?

Since this began, I have abstained from editing these sensitive areas out of respect for this discussion. I certainly am crestfallen about the possibility of a BLP political activity topic ban, but I would still like to assure this community that I appreciate all your comments and will keep them in mind for the future. Iljhgtn (talk) 21:13, 30 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

Statement by Atsme

See this diff. Atsme 💬 📧 21:02, 21 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

Statement by IOHANNVSVERVS

Iljhgtn has made a similar whitewashing removal of sourced content with a misleading/inaccurate edit summary at the page Gaza genocide on 27 Oct 2025. IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 21:49, 21 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

Statement by Kowal2701

Idk whether this is relevant, but these comments on Jimbo's talk page seemed awfully trollish [12] [13], the latter of which led someone to ping Sanger and the discussion got closed as inflammatory [14]. Idk whether it was trolling or if Iljhgtn was just being naive/unaware of how their comments would be received. Kowal2701 (talk) 22:04, 21 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

Statement by Horse Eye's Back

There seem to be more or less the same sort of edits to articles about Israeli politics as American ones... See for example this edit [15] which similarly emphasized left wing elements while removing outright "right-wing." They then edit war over it [16][17][18][19][20][21][22]. A seperate edit removes another reference to right-wing[23]. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 00:22, 22 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

Statement by Aquillion

[24] - note the contrast between this and the edit war over Israel Frey above. For Frey, Iljhgtn insisted in including "far-left" in the lead of a WP:BLP, without attribution, based on a single WP:BIASED source, the Times of Israel, calling him that in a single article. For Roy, Iljhgtn removed his politics from the lead despite it being extensively discussed throughout the body, showing a differing approach to BLPs depending on their politics.
On Epoch Times, removed far-right from the short description despite the extensive citation bundle full of high-quality sources; again, note the inconsistency with the above, where they use much weaker sourcing to add or restore "far-left".[25]

But I feel that most of Iljhgtn's problematic editing is in the I/P topic area. Some examples:

On Nerdeen Kiswani, Iljhgtn added obviously BLP-sensitive stuff to the lead using sources that are clearly not BLP-quality [26] and then attempted to edit-war it back in when someone objected.
On Unity of Fields, [27], putting "far-left" into the lead based on a single mention in a single source; describing it as proscribed in the lead based on a single primary source; extensively describing it as promoting violence in an unattributed paragraph in the lead and body cited only to WP:BIASED and low-quality sources; all with the same vague edit summary used above. They then edit-warred it back in when someone objected.

--Aquillion (talk) 16:06, 22 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

Statement by Anastrophe

I am extremely loathe to engage here, being deeply allergic to WP bureaucracy, but I feel the "Diffs of previous relevant sanctions, if any" (emphasis added) should be struck, as it was about use of appropriate edit summaries, not allegedly intentionally misleading edit summaries on contentious topics, as this seems to be about. I briefly (though in depth) engaged with Iljhgtn, at that time a relatively 'green' user, due to use of a canned edit summary on mass changes to ENGVAR. User wasn't aware of the appropriate use of ENGVAR, and in making many identical edits, used a single canned edit summary offered automatically that wasn't accurate. With some effort, got user set up with their own set of edit summaries to choose from. That was my last interaction here w/user.

That previous issue - as best I can tell while holding one hand over one eye and making a tiny peep-hole between the fingers of my other hand, due to the above declared loathing of all matters bureaucratic - had nothing to do with "contentious topics", the seemingly overriding matter here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anastrophe (talk • contribs) 20:25, 22 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

@Newslinger, Seeing as the very next comment after Mathglot's that you linked to is by me, perhaps my 'confusion' was warranted.

@Voorts, any reason you're making an uncivil comment towards me out of the blue here? Your personal comment about me has absolutely nothing to do with this action. And people wonder why I loathe this shit. cheers. anastrophe, an editor he is. 21:51, 22 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

Statement by GreenLipstickLesbian

In an adjacent topic area (Climate change), Iljhgtn has also engaged in similar editing. On Alex Epstein, they edit warred out sourced content with misleading edit summaries over a period of several years [28][29][30] and adding claims that Epstein believed something G while citing sources that do not mention Epstein.([31] [32]) When another editor pointed on that several other editors had discussed this text and come to a consensus,[33] they responded by saying it was a BLP issue[34], reverted back to their preferred version over a period of multiple edits,[35][36] and modified the archive settings to remove the conversation. [37].

On BLPs in the same topic area, Iljgtn has added negative content sourced only to think tanks and their publications[38] GreenLipstickLesbian 💌🧸 23:31, 22 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

Statement by Alpha3031 (on Iljhgtn)

My interactions with the editor are mostly on American Institute for Economic Research, which primarily relates to WP:CT/COVID but probably could sufficiently be covered by AP2. As I've previously mentioned, I didn't think the edits on that page rose to the point of sanctionable behaviour, but do indicate the same issues (of selectively inserting labels and contentious content) extend to that topic also.

3 August asserting without sources that a BLP viewed the declaration as a threat to a centralized pandemic response and attempted to disparage it by labeling it~~called the declaration~~ "total nonsense"

16 November The declaration was also criticized by ~~the~~left-leaning, formerly libertarian-leaning, Niskanen Center, ~~a formerly libertarian think tank that~~which now calls itself moderate.

I had also found the edits to Israel Frey raised by HEB when the topic was raised at NPOVN, though not other edits in I/P raised by Aquillion.

In terms of the editor finding another contentious (small-c or big-c) topic and continuing the same behaviour, I imagine if AE makes it clear that such behaviour (selective application of what appears to be blatantly different standards of judgement, deceptive edit summaries, etc) is not acceptable in any topic, any individual administrator or ANI could very quickly make it not our problem to deal with any more if that occurs. I think it is possible that the editor is willing to take things under advisement, and can clearly identify the topic areas they edit which are not (small-c) contentious, though I suppose we will have to see. Alpha3031 (t • c) 11:44, 23 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

I see a TBAN seems most likely at this point, and there has been two variants via BLP proposed, political persons or groups (presumably covering everything related to those people or groups) political activity (and presumably only the activity), I'm wondering if Black Kite's concerns would be sufficiently addressed by the first variant. AP2+PIA and the 0RR could both apply instead or in addition of course, so the single option probably doesn't necessarily need to cover everything. Alpha3031 (t • c) 00:06, 2 December 2025 (UTC)Reply

Statement by Drmies

Interesting that this would come up--I've been wondering about the political bent of this editor as exhibited by their behavior. Another editor, above, mentioned whitewashing in relation to Gaza, but I think we have that here as well--in this edit they cut Nazi gun control argument (following a merge discussion), and here they merge the content into Disarmament of the German Jews--but now it's just a brief paragraph full of weasel words, with all its teeth pulled and all its names redacted. Note the end of the paragraph, starting with "Others cite that", where the editor basically repeats two arguments of proponents of the theory (that, basically, gun control caused the Holocaust), in significant detail, sourced to one particular non-neutral book. That section is almost half of the entire paragraph, completely overwhelming the rest of the content. A similar erasure took place here, in another gun-related article. I think a topic ban from American politics, broadly speaking, is appropriate. Drmies (talk) 18:03, 23 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

Statement by Butterscotch Beluga

@Iljhgtn - I'll freely say that I had made a post on Wikipediocracy about noticing your trend of edits relating to Elliott Broidy, but at the time, had yet to decide if I should bring the issue to a noticeboard. I thought it over for two days with little response, so I posted at WP:NPOV/N for more perspectives. I did not ask anyone off-wiki to contribute, did not ask for sanctions of any kind (here or there), & I did not notify anyone that your conduct was even being discussed on wiki. I'll also note that the thread in question is mostly unrelated, off-topic discussion, so I'm unsure what "coordination" you're referring to. - Butterscotch Beluga (talk) 22:23, 23 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

Statement by Metallurgist

Ive been taking a deeper look at the edits referenced in the original post on NPOV, but saw it was escalated to here, so Ill post here instead. Some of the edits I feel were justified. Many were indeed undue BLP attacks, and of the 21 edits on 20 articles I looked at the origins of, 7 were done by 3 accounts and 1 IP, who were subsequently indeffed, some for inserting baseless BLP edits that were never reverted until now. I wonder what is still extant, and will look into that. One had a total of 20 blocks over the years, which is quite a bit of WP:ROPE. 3 further edits were done by accounts who were blocked at least once, but are not currently. So, there is that. On the other hand, there were edits that had me scratching my head...

There were 13 I found justifiable, 3 had a case for some (but not all) removal, and 4 were highly questionable. I could go into detail, but that probably is not material here, and I would need about 1000 words. I will post them on NPOV and if requested here I can copy over.

Given all of this, I feel a very very stern warning is justified at a minimum. WP:One last chance to change their ways before sanctions imposed. Some editors receiving this will take the hint; but those who dont, then its the same result as a restriction here and now. I am loathe to advise restrictions against a generally productive editor, even one I had disagreements with, such as #Rap no Davinci above, who used the troublesome LLMs. It always vexes me to see editors whose hearts are in the right place, but do not follow the rules and guidelines. If there is to be a restriction, perhaps a timed topic ban to give the user a chance to cool it, and demonstrate they can change their ways. 0/1RR seems reasonable to temper edit warring and consensus-seeking concerns. I hope Iljhgtn realizes that their editing could use improvement and take action to rectify it immediately. There clearly is some justification for a clement result given that they were not outright blocked and instead brought here. ← Metallurgist (talk) 04:28, 24 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

@Newslinger my analysis was based on what was presented at NPOVN. Of the overlap we had, I agreed with your concerns.

To the closing admins, I think the scope of the proposed TBAN on "political activity of living people" allows them to prove they can reform their editing style and be less ham-handed. As to the concern that it could be gamed, then they will be right back here with a heavier ban or indef over their head. I hope they take this in and focus on more constructive editing elsewhere, which they seem fully capable of. And perhaps voluntarily pull back from cTOP for awhile to show good faith. I think I am bumping up on 500 so I will leave it there. ← Metallurgist (talk) 06:34, 2 December 2025 (UTC)Reply

Statement by QuicoleJR

About the Omar issue (and a dispute over Hebrew redirects), admins might find this ANI thread to be useful context. QuicoleJR (talk) 13:35, 26 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

Statement by Rainsage

contrary to Iljhgtn's statement, they violated 1RR at least twice on Israel Frey.
- 15 May 2025 23:36 16 May 2025 0:09
- 21 July 2025 16:41 22 July 2025 3:21
between 16 May—5 Jun 2025, Iljhgtn enforced their preferred version of Israel Frey, while stonewalling [39][40][41] the talk page discussion.
Iljhgtn seemingly tried to derail 2 discussions I started about their edits by suggesting that I was violating COI/UPE/OWN instead of directly responding to my argument.[42][43]. They asked me multiple times if I had a COI [44][45] even though I had told them the first time they asked that I don't [46], and they had no evidence.
Iljhgtn returned on 14 November 2025 00:39 to re-do some of their edits that had previously been reverted and discussed in July:
- They re-did their 22 July 2025 3:21 edit to remove content from the lede regarding an attack on Frey's home. July discussion is here.
- On 12 July, Iljhgtn removed “journalist” from the SD without explanation; I re-added it. in the July discussion about whether to call Frey a journalist or an activist, Iljhgtn agreed that more sources call Frey a journalist but wanted to call Frey an "activist journalist" without providing sources for this term. Based on the discussion, another editor removed the word “activist” from the article. On 14 November 2025 00:39, Iljhgtn replaced the word “journalist” with “activist” everywhere except SD; their edit summary: activist still seems to be best label for lead
On Wounded Knee Massacre
- 01 October 2023—12 May 2025: Iljhgtn inserted inadequately sourced claim into the lede/SD ~11 times that it was a “mass shooting”. there was no support for this term in the discussion.

I don't think that they should be indeffed. It seems like they are doing a lot of work to upload fair use cover art images to articles about books. Rainsage (talk) 03:07, 29 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

Statement by Agnieszka653

Looking at the amount of cherry-picking taking place over user:Iljhgtn's contributions, I'm going to provide my thoughts on this so far.

While I find a few of Ijhgtn's edits on the Eliot Broidy concerning, the discussions here seems to be turning into a WP:WITCHHUNT.

If user:Aquillion wants to shield Nerdeen Kiswani's page from Iljhtn's sourced addition of information deeming it "not BLP-quality" why should Iljhgtn be considered for sanction and not user:Aquillion? Stripping away sourced information is the original issue in question.

As for Wounded Knee Massacre, I'm unsure why this is even referred to here unless user:Rainsage is attempting to make a case for Ilghgtn's cordiality.

Based on my perusal of the talk page:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wounded_Knee_Massacre#Massacre?_Mass_Shooting?_-_what_to_state_in_the_lead_section

Iljhgtn's initial responses presented their issues with the page and asked for feedback. Throughout the discussion they requested specific citations, provided their own sources, and suggested using qualifying language. The elements of Iljhgtn's behavior that are labeled "problematic" are mostly minor details that are personality quirks that have been magnified to be presented as dire and dangerous behavior.

Bear in mind, that I am in no way defending user:Iljhgtn's edits on the Eliot Broidy page and I can see how topic ban on all Elliot Broidy-related pages may be justified. But every other problem mentioned here seems relatively trivial which could merely be solved in talk page discussions rather than a sweeping topic ban on contentious subjects. One editor above even mentioned that it would be "simpler to enforce" a certain type of ban over another. Not necessarily because such a ban might be warranted but for the reason it would be easier to enforce. Since when did a factor like simplicity become a parameter for providing serious sanctions? Agnieszka653 (talk) 19:28, 29 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

Statement by Gjb0zWxOb

I am seeing people suggest either WP:ROPE or some sort of topic ban against iljhgtn. I find myself in the WP:ROPE camp. Iljhgtn is obviously an experienced editor, they have more than 85,000 edits, over 400 "thanks" and dozens of barnstars. I think that if an editor like this is warned or made aware of potential problems in their edits, they are capable of adopting better editing habits. Most of the edits presented here were made over the course of a year or so, followed by discussions in their respective talk pages. I contend it is pretty easy to paint an unfair or inaccurate picture of wrongdoing by citing diffs out-of-context.

Meanwhile, some editors have mentioned the useful contributions of iljhgtn on various fronts, for example, in pages relating to books. They have even helped me before. I'm not sure if providing a broad sanction or a topic ban of any kind (especially an indefinite one) would even allow iljhgtn to contribute where their best work lies. They wouldn't have even been able to add the book title to the page I provided above since it lightly touches politics.

I don't believe a topic ban of any kind is warranted here given that this is their first formal warning and they demonstrate an obvious commitment to contributing to the encyclopedia. Gjb0zWxOb (talk) 19:54, 30 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

Statement by Smallangryplanet

Just highlighting that this editor's disruptive behaviour very much extends to WP:CT/A-I, including highly contentious BLP edits and implying that an editor is somehow connected to Hamas because of their (the editor's) good-faith edits. Smallangryplanet (talk) 23:18, 1 December 2025 (UTC)Reply

Statement by (username)

Result concerning Iljhgtn

This section is to be edited only by uninvolved administrators. Comments by others will be moved to the sections above.

I was trying to remember where I knew this editor's name from, and then I realised it was at Ilhan Omar where they tried to get a fictional "Somali name" included in her article (discussion here and here). During that latter discussion it turned out that they had added equally unsourced/fictional names to at least eight other American politicians of Somali descent (all Democrats, of course), with completely deceptive edit summaries (i.e. [47]). I don't think I need to explain why they did that, although they probably won't admit it. As another editor said there, "their dismissive attitude towards WP:OR and WP:RS means that it is impossible to distinguish their edits from hoaxing", and on BLPs that's clearly a huge issue. Black Kite (talk) 19:39, 21 November 2025 (UTC)Reply
A TBAN from Elliott Broidy is the minimum in my view. The dispute surrounding Ilhan Omar and the edits about American politicians of Somali descent are troubling as well. Combined, I think there's prima facie evidence that Iljhgtn is editing non-neutrally in the area of American politics. @Kowal2701: I don't find Iljhgtn's edits to Jimbo's talk page to be problematic. @Atsme: your comment doesn't address any of the diffs provided in the AE request. In any event, while I'm generally concerned by corporate/government manipulation of media, that explanation doesn't apply to most of the diffs cited above. voorts (talk/contributions) 23:37, 21 November 2025 (UTC)Reply
- @Anastrophe: Iljhgtn doesn't need you to wikilawyer on his behalf. voorts (talk/contributions) 20:57, 22 November 2025 (UTC)Reply
- @Iljhgtn: any response to the evidence regarding the political bias in your editing? voorts (talk/contributions) 20:59, 22 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

@Iljhgtn: do you want to respond to the evidence provided by Aquillion and HEB? voorts (talk/contributions) 23:10, 22 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

I'd still like to see what Iljhgtn has to say, but I want to give a further assessment in light of the new evidence. I think it clear that Iljhgtn allows their politics to color their editorial judgment across various contentious topics (both colloquially and in the Wikipedia sense). From the evidence presented, it appears that a major part of the disruption surrounds articles about living political figures and edits related to political labels (e.g., whether to call a group/individual "left" or "right" or a variation thereof). I think there needs to be, at minimum, a TBAN from BLP edits related to political persons or groups, broadly construed; a 0RR restriction; and an editing restriction prohibiting changing political labels, broadly construed. I'm a bit concerned that any restrictions we impose would just lead to Iljhgtn moving to a different "contentious" political topic area that is not covered by a CTOP. voorts (talk/contributions) 00:47, 23 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

@Iljhgtn: I'll give you another 1,000 words beyond your current word count. Any private evidence of off-wiki coordination and canvassing would need to go to ArbCom. Also, even if true, it doesn't excuse any non-neutral editing on your part; we don't have an unclean hands doctrine when it comes to AE. voorts (talk/contributions) 21:32, 23 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

@Butterscotch Beluga: this AE thread is not about you, so there's no need to defend yourself here. Only ARBCOM can deal with off-wiki evidence. If that happens, you'll be given an opportunity to respond. voorts (talk/contributions) 23:29, 23 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

I don't give two hoots what Iljhgtn's politics are, but the diffs presented here evidence selective reading of source material (when source material exists at all) and poor communication of the sort that isn't acceptable in a CTOP. Given their considerable history, a TBAN is necessary. I'm uncertain as to scope, because a number of different areas have cropped up in the diffs. The simplest I can come up with is "political activity of living people". But perhaps an AP2 TBAN would be clearer and simpler to enforce. I would also want a warning about using descriptive edit summaries. Vanamonde93 (talk) 22:56, 23 November 2025 (UTC)Reply
I'd like to see the scope go beyond AMPOL given the issues outside of that topic area. voorts (talk/contributions) 23:31, 23 November 2025 (UTC)Reply
The broadness of topics makes me think an indef is the only viable option here. There isn't a way to topic ban someone from "AP and everything that attracts attention due to AP". --Guerillero ^{Parlez Moi} 15:31, 24 November 2025 (UTC)Reply
I'm reluctant to jump to an indef as a first AE sanction. The core NPOV issue here is cherry-picking negative and positive material based on POV, but I don't see evidence that they've been sanctioned for that before. I'd prefer a TBAN - even an expansive one - that allows them to demonstrate their ability to edit constructively. Vanamonde93 (talk) 16:30, 24 November 2025 (UTC)Reply
I agree. I'm opposed to an indef at this point. Iljghtn is now on notice that we're not persuaded by their explanations above and that further editing in this pattern will likely lead to additional sanctions to prevent disruption. voorts (talk/contributions) 20:15, 30 November 2025 (UTC)Reply
@Black Kite, Guerillero, and Voorts: This appears to be languishing for lack of agreement. I see consensus that an AMPOL TBAN is the minimum necessary, but also that it isn't sufficient. Guerillero supports an indef, I'm weakly opposed. How do you feel about a TBAN from "political activity of living people" as I suggest above (via the BLP CTOP) or alternatively an AMPOL + PIA TBAN? Other suggestions are welcome. Vanamonde93 (talk) 18:15, 29 November 2025 (UTC)Reply
I would be fine with a topic ban under BLP on political activity of living people, broadly construed. I would also be in favor of a 0RR restriction. voorts (talk/contributions) 20:14, 30 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

Yes, though I'm a little concerned that "political activity of living people" could be gamed - the example I gave above about unsourced names in BLPs could be construed as not being about those politicians "political activity", for example. Black Kite (talk) 09:31, 1 December 2025 (UTC)Reply

This has not seen the degree of administrator input it should have received, for which Iljhgtn has my apologies. There remain outstanding proposals for a 0RR restriction and an indef, but they do not have enough support to enact. I see consensus for a TBAN, and in deference to concerns expressed since it was proposed, I am closing with a topic ban from content about political people: that is, a politician's activity is entirely covered, not just their political activity. Vanamonde93 (talk) 21:14, 2 December 2025 (UTC)Reply

إيان

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User who is submitting this request for enforcement: Nehushtani (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 12:04, 25 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

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Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it

Edit warring during consensus building efforts on Jerusalem Day: this editor is edit warring "In recent years, there have been anti-Palestinian chants of "death to Arabs" and "May Your Village Burn" in these parades." into the lead. They first added it on 16 November 2025. On 17 November 2025 I reverted them saying to seek consensus, after which on 21 November 2025 another user added it back in, on 23 November 2025 I again removed it per WP:ONUS, on 23 November 2025 they again edit warred it in and on 23 November 2025 were reverted by another user telling them to stop edit warring. On November 2025 they edit warred it back in , falsely claiming "Per current talk page consensus", when taking a look at the talk page will indicate that there is an ongoing discussion and no consensus, and this the user is clearly violating WP:ONUS, for which they have been previously been cautioned throughout this whole discussion.
Uncivil behavior and violations of WP:AGF on Talk:Jerusalem Day: On 23 November 2025 they inaccurately described what had happened, because the previous discussion had been only about including the contested material in the body of the article (to which I acquiesced) and they had never until that point discussed it in the lead. On 24 November 2025 they claimed that those disagreeing with them and saying something is WP:UNDUE is "not policy based" and then later on 24 November 2025 doubling down on these claims. This seems to violate WP:SATISFY. On 24 November 2025 BlookyNapsta told them to start an WP:RFC to include the contested material, but on 24 November 2025 they insisted that "I don’t think we need to go to an RfC to establish consensus". On 24 November 2025 they wrote that those who disagree with them are WP:Status quo stonewalling.
WP:BLUDGEONING: On Talk:Six-Day War#Requested move 16 November 2025, this user has been WP:BLUDGEONING and repeating the same claims over and over again, 19 November 2025, 19 November 2025, 20 November 2025 and 23 November 2025.
WP:BLUDGEONING: In the Talk:Six-Day War#Requested move 13 November 2025 previous RfD (now replaced by the previous one) they were similarly involved in WP:BLUDGEONING, asking every editor who rejected their proposal based on WP:COMMONNAME "by what metrics" they call it the common name. 13 November 2025, 14 November 2025, 14 November 2025 and 15 November 2025. A few months ago, at Talk:Gaza Genocide, the user was also WP:BLUDGEONING, questioning any user he disagreed with "based on what sources?" or a similar reaction. 4 August 2025, 18 August 2025 and 24 August 2025.
WP:SYNTH: On 23 November 2025, the user was warned on their talk page that they had violated WP:SYNTH, in one case on a WP:BLP page. On 23 November 2025 they insisted that these edits "seems like useful context for the reader". (Although on 23 November 2025 the user did eventually say that they will be more diligent on the matter, implicitly admitting that they had made a mistake.)

Diffs of previous relevant sanctions, if any

Logged warning on 25 October 2025 "to remain civil, assume good faith of other editors, and avoid inflammatory remarks".

If contentious topics restrictions are requested, supply evidence that the user is aware of them (see WP:CTOP#Awareness of contentious topics)

24 January 2025 received the standard CTOP warning on their talk page.

Additional comments by editor filing complaint

@Butterscotch Beluga - The claim that "They asked you to come to talk to discuss & but you didn't respond until other editors got involved" is inaccurate. The discussion started on the talk page was open 08:01, 16 November 2025 about whether it was due in the body of the article. Their arguments convinced me that it is widely enough covered to be due in the body of the article so I did not respond. Later that day, on 10:09, 16 November 2025, they began edit warring the contentious content into the lead with no discussion whatsoever. Nehushtani (talk) 07:38, 26 November 2025 (UTC) @Cinaroot's claim that I did not participate in the talk page discussion is once again inaccurate, as there was no discussion about the inclusion in the lead, as I explained above. Also, although they were uninvolved in this specific discussion, it does not seem to be a coincidence that they posted this commont shortly after I have informed them of a 1RR violation. Nehushtani (talk) 17:54, 29 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested

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Discussion concerning إيان

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Statement by إيان

إيان's statement contains 725 words and complies with the 850-word limit.

Extension granted to 850 words. — Newslinger talk 18:06, 1 December 2025 (UTC)Reply

The disagreement appears to be about the content of my edits rather than my conduct, as evident in these contrived, shoehorned, and misrepresentative accusations:

The first accusation of edit warring is ABSURD, especially coming from the accuser who, reverted by two editors, refused to discuss in the talk page discussion on the matter after being pinged, and was the one engaged in edit warring. There is a summary of this here.
The accusation of uncivil behavior is also contrived. I followed WP:BRD and I was magnanimous with the two out of five involved editors that disagreed and did not offer any proof beyond a vague gesture to UNDUE. To accuse me of edit warring without bothering to discuss for a week is disingenuous to say the least. The accuser alleges they wrote that those who disagree with them are WP:Status quo stonewalling, which I did not. I placed the link to the explanatory essay there for the benefit of all without making any accusation about anyone doing it.
The accusations of bludgeoning are again contrived, appearing to exploit a shoehorned accusation of conduct violations because the accuser disagreed with the substance of the edits. Also, the two RMs are the same discussion. When the likelihood of approaching the word limit was brought to my attention, I made my final points and stopped.
The SYNTH accusation is again content-based and not conduct-based and was already addressed and resolved. The accuser was not involved at all, and I'm curious why the accuser brings it up again here.

Per WP:Dispute resolution: If you have taken all other reasonable steps to resolve the dispute, and the dispute is not over the content of an article, you can request arbitration. It would have been appreciated if the accuser had, for example, discussed their grievances with me at any point directly on my talk page before bothering everyone here with these flagrantly frivolous and vexatious accusations and this unnecessary bureaucracy. I take the Wikipedia policies very seriously, and it is inappropriate to try to weaponize Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement to silence editors contributing in good faith with whom we might disagree on content. إيان (talk) 15:45, 25 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

Originalcola, if you thought that I was clearly engaging in bludgeoning, why didn't you say so? I admittedly engaged a lot, but I thought I was engaging politely and in good faith, and there was good discussion happening in response to my arguments and questions. It didn't seem to me from the way the conversation was going that I had been doing something wrong. And as I said in my statement, when it was brought to my attention, I stopped. Regarding the false claim regarding case-sensitive searches, I did indeed make a mistake in seeing the "case-insensitive" tab as "case-sensitive" which I later realized and fixed from then-on.إيان (talk) 10:38, 30 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

QuicoleJR's accusations also appear to be rooted in a disagreement on content rather than conduct. The claim The editor in question, after the content was removed from Jerusalem Day, added it to anti-Palestinian racism is wrong and deceptive. The thoroughly sourced content—perfectly WP:DUE where I placed it per sourcing—is based on this understanding, not the information removed from the lede.

That I should be penalized for contributions such as translating "May Your Village Burn" from Hebrew is absurd. Improving articles and getting the encyclopedia closer to WP:NPOV with high-quality contributions introducing drastically underrepresented voices and citing the highest quality scholarly sources, while being engaged and responsive on talk pages, is not WP:disruptive editing, whereas reverting without discussing to maintain a POV status quo is disruptive behavior. As for expanding on controversies and negative coverage of Israel and their supporters, WP:Wikipedia is not censored and—though I apologize for where I have made honest mistakes—it is unfair and inappropriate to attempt sanction me on contrived accusations here in an attempt to censor me and my contributions. إيان (talk) 21:12, 30 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

I believe BlookyNapsta’s most recent comment helps clarify what this really seems to be about—content and not conduct. I have responded to their questions on their talk page. إيان (talk) 11:54, 1 December 2025 (UTC)Reply

I think I'm over my word limit. Could I have permission to say a few more words in response to Samuelshraga? إيان (talk) 12:34, 1 December 2025 (UTC)Reply

Statement by BlookyNapsta

I'm afraid Ayan's response goes to show exactly the problem Nehushtani complains about: a total failure to understand Wikipedia rules when it comes to this extremely sensitive topic. As someone involved in the same discussion, I saw the same issue: Ayan is trying to promote a very controversial piece of information to the lead of an article about a public holiday in Israel, but when the conversation doesn't go the way they wanted, they seem to have decided to force their version despite clear opposition. Wikipedia has enough bias issues and this kind of behavior just makes it worse. Ayan's denial of the issues that appear here, which I learn they are not doing for the first time, having already been warned by this very forum, require a good answer. BlookyNapsta (talk) 15:05, 25 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

@QuicoleJR's comments about POV pushing are really disturbing. If Ayan's behavior includes not only edit warring and bludgeoning but also activist-style edits meant to distort our coverage of ARBPIA topics, that should be remedied asap. I saw more examples of this happening just yesterday on 30 November 2025 to Talk:Six-Day War. After two failed attempts to change the article's name because of alleged "POV title", Ayan now claims that "the occupations and displacements" are "the most prominent features of the war". The very suggestion that "displacements" were "the most prominent" feature of the war goes directly against any serious coverage of the topic in scholarship.

Another article - Zionism in Morocco - written from scratch by Ayan also shows clear bias. "Zionism ... the 19th century ethnocultural nationalist movement to establish a Jewish state through the colonization of Palestine" - Calling Zionism "colonization" reflects a specific political framing which is not agreed about in academic literature. Similarly, the article refers several times to Zionist activities as "propaganda", but does not use this phrase for other political actors. The article also states that "Initially, Mossad Le'Aliyah agents exploited poverty to motivate Jews to leave"; using the word "exploited" is clearly POV and judgmental.

These actions around the articles on the Six-Day War and on Zionism in Morocco, which seem to try to rewrite historical events to serve a clear agenda, seem to be just a few examples of a wider attempt to expand the bias that is ruining Wikipedia's credibility (which are not noticed only by me, but also by Wikipedia's founders). BlookyNapsta (talk) 09:47, 1 December 2025 (UTC)Reply

@إيان - I don't see this as an issue of content. The possible violation at hand is POV pushing, which is an issue of conduct. BlookyNapsta (talk) 13:12, 1 December 2025 (UTC)Reply

Statement by Butterscotch Beluga

Your description of "Uncivil behavior and violations of WP:AGF" seems rather inaccurate. They asked you to come to talk to discuss & but you didn't respond until other editors got involved.

The comment you're quoting for "not policy based" actually read "Not a source or policy-based argument." The comment they were replying to was in response to my comment saying it was WP:DUE & backed by sources, so saying you disagree without supplying your own sources is unhelpful.

I don't believe asking for someone to explain their reasoning or cite a source for their !vote is WP:BLUDGEONING as long as they don't badger them further.

The issue regarding WP:SYNTH is both settled & not a conduct-issue. - Butterscotch Beluga (talk) 15:51, 25 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

Statement by Cinaroot

(un-involved)

If there was edit warring in this situation, the sequence of events indicates that it is Nehushtani who have engaged in edit warring. إيان opened a talk-page thread on 16 November immediately after the first revert, but Nehushtani did not participate in that discussion. When another editor reverted the Nehushtani on 21st, Nehushtani edit warred with them. إيان then reverted Nehushtani and requested to engage on the talk page. Nehushtani engaged after this.

Rather than using the existing talk-page discussion to seek consensus, Nehushtani continued reverting. It is not appropriate to revert repeatedly without participating in discussion, and then characterize the other party as the one edit-warring. Editors are expected to collaborate and engage in talk page discussions in a timely manner, in line with WP:CONSENSUS.

The evidence does not substantiate the claim that إيان was the party engaged in edit warring. Accordingly, I ask that the enforcement request be dismissed. Cinaroot (talk) 09:24, 29 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

Statement by Originalcola

I cannot speak to any of the other claims made, but with regard to the 3rd and 4th charges إيان was clearly engaging in bludgeoning. They replied directly to the majority of editors who had cast oppose votes, and repeatedly insinuated that editors, including myself, were either acting in bad faith, arguing in bad faith or that editors that opposed the proposed name change were ignoring his arguments deliberately. They also made a false claim regarding case-sensitive searches in an argument to try and sway an editor by convincing them that they had made a misatake that they then repeated multiple times, although I did initially think it is more likely than not due to a lack of familiarity with using ngrams.Originalcola (talk) 19:13, 30 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

Regarding @إيان's response to my statement, I just chose to disengage as I didn't think it was productive to continue. I had pointed out the mistake you made regarding case-sensitive searches and issues with some of the metrics you had been using in a reply to you somewhat early in the conversation, and I didn't want to continue that line of discussion at the time given the lack of acknowledgement and the aforementioned incivility accusation. Honestly I expected that either you would withdraw your request or someone else would close the discussion early given that there seemed to be a clear-cut consensus. Originalcola (talk) 19:33, 30 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

Statement by QuicoleJR

The editor in question, after the content was removed from Jerusalem Day, added it to anti-Palestinian racism. They have also added the chant to the See Also section of globalize the intifada, and are the creator of the May Your Village Burn article which they are trying to add content about to other articles. Furthermore, upon reviewing their recent contributions, it would appear that most of their recent editing consists of expanding on controversies and negative coverage of Israel and their supporters, as can be seen here (see also this related POV edit), here, here (which was another insertion of content related to an article they created), and here. Nehushtani's conduct has also been subpar in this topic area, but adding this to the OP's report shows that the user in question is a clear POV pusher, which the topic area certainly needs less of. IMO a topic ban is unfortunately warranted to avoid further POV pushing, although I could also see a balanced editing restriction being passed as a lighter sanction. QuicoleJR (talk) 20:10, 30 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

To be clear, I wasn't trying to imply that we shouldn't cover negative information about Israel, just that you seemed to be expanding on it as much as possible in as many places as possible, and that it seemed to be your primary purpose on Wikipedia. I also don't think there's anything wrong with you writing that article, but it was helpful context to you adding mentions of it to three other pages. I think your invocation of Wikipedia:Systemic bias shows the issue here; pro-Palestine POVs are not systematically underrepresented on Wikipedia, and trying to remedy that non-existent bias by adding a pro-Palestine bias is POV pushing, which is a conduct issue. For the record, I was not involved with any of this before finding this AE report. QuicoleJR (talk) 19:39, 1 December 2025 (UTC)Reply

Statement by Samuelshraga

I participated in the Six-Day War RM. I think إيان probably did enter bludgeoning territory (there was a lot of repetition the same arguments). The bludgeoning was about WP:COMMONNAME [48][49][50][51], then about the article naming policies of WP:CRITERIA and WP:POVTITLE [52][53][54][55]. I think there was also a certain measure of WP:IDIDNTHEARTHAT - إيان was corrected on both issues repeatedly by multiple editors over the course of weeks. That said, إيان did (finally) accept that their case about WP:COMMONNAME was flawed[56], and did ultimately stop engaging when told they were approaching a word limit.

In isolation, I wouldn't consider the conduct in the Six-Day War RMs worthy of sanction, especially not if إيان understands where they went amiss. Based on the statement above that the accusations of bludgeoning are contrived, we're not quite there. @إيان, you said above on this issue: I thought I was engaging politely and in good faith. You were! But that doesn't mean you didn't bludgeon, and when OriginalCola pointed out where you went wrong, you accused them of being uncivil.[57] I think you should reconsider doubling down on this - making a mistake like this is not the end of the world, especially not if you can recognise it.

No comment either way on the rest of the evidence, other than the response to 2: I placed the link to the explanatory essay there for the benefit of all without making any accusation about anyone doing it. Erm... no, that's not how anyone would have read this, it's clearly an accusation - more an explicit than an implied one. Samuelshraga (talk) 07:14, 1 December 2025 (UTC)Reply

Statement by (username)

Result concerning إيان

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@إيان: In response to your request, your word limit has been extended to 850 words. I have removed the subheading "Additional comments by editor against whom the complaint is being filed" to fix the edit counter for your section. — Newslinger talk 18:06, 1 December 2025 (UTC)Reply

White Spider Shadow

Latest comment: 4 hours ago13 comments5 people in discussion

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Request concerning White Spider Shadow

User who is submitting this request for enforcement: FDW777 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 19:22, 25 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

User against whom enforcement is requested: White Spider Shadow (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
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Sanction or remedy to be enforced: WP:CT/ZS

Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it

04:35, 25 November 2025 Posts an edit request, while not extended confirmed
18:54, 25 November 2025 After having the edit request being rejected with a clear explanation, reinstates the edit request
19:08, 25 November 2025 Starts a discussion on my talk page about Zak Smith.

Diffs of previous relevant sanctions, if any

If contentious topics restrictions are requested, supply evidence that the user is aware of them (see WP:CTOP#Awareness of contentious topics)

Specifically notified here on 08:12, 30 September 2025.

Additional comments by editor filing complaint

Unclear why White Spider Shadow wasn't blocked at the same time as all the other meatpuppets on Zak Smith, but it's clear they are intent on flogging the same dead horse the community has had enough of.

White Spider Shadow says I also see no practical point in topic-banning a non-EC editor from an EC-protected topic that has been closed to discussion by non-EC editors for a while now. I do see a practical point, since it prevents future disruption should they become EC at some point in the future. Their history on Zak Smith to date has been essentially identical to others who are already blocked and/or topic banned. FDW777 (talk) 21:22, 25 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

As mentioned by various editors below, the edits by White Spider Shadow don't exist in a vacuum. Their editing history is best summed up by Newslinger here stating As FixerFixerFixer (talk · contribs) and Slacker13 (talk · contribs) are both currently blocked, White Spider Shadow should be warned that continuing to litigate Zak Smith–related disputes on behalf of blocked or banned editors is a violation of the policy against proxying (WP:PROXYING). This current arbitration case request filed by White Spider Shadow mirrors the litigation strategy used by Slacker13, which can be seen in Slacker13's 29 August case request before it was declined by the Committee. Likewise, White Spider Shadow's conflict of interest noticeboard report at Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard/Archive 225 § Morbidthoughts replicates the line of argument used in a January 2023 noticeboard report submitted by Jehmbo (talk · contribs), a blocked sockpuppet of FixerFixerFixer. FDW777 (talk) 17:44, 1 December 2025 (UTC)Reply

Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested

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Discussion concerning White Spider Shadow

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Statement by White Spider Shadow

Hi. The request made by FDW777 contains several untrue statements. "Posts an edit request, while not extended confirmed" is not an edit that violates the sanction. It's specifically noted at the talk page in question that posting an edit request is an allowed exception (Quote: You must be logged-in and extended-confirmed to edit or discuss the topic of Zak Smith on any page (except for making edit requests, provided they are not disruptive).

"After having the edit request being rejected with a clear explanation, reinstates the edit request" is untrue as well. There was no clear explanation regarding my request, which is why I proceeded with the reinstating.

"Starts a discussion on my talk page about Zak Smith." is untrue as well. I did not discuss the topic of Zak Smith on FDW777's talk page. I pointed out that none of the reasons for my request were addressed, and asked if this is a normal practice. It's a discussion about edit requests, not about Smith. Diff: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:FDW777&diff=prev&oldid=1324131549

The additional comment "Unclear why White Spider Shadow wasn't blocked at the same time as all the other meatpuppets on Zak Smith, but it's clear they are intent on flogging the same dead horse the community has had enough of." is untrue as well, and sounds like a personal attack. It is clear why I was not blocked. My activity on WP was checked several times, and no reason for blocking me was found. Here's one link from my Talk page, more can be easily found: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:White_Spider_Shadow#c-ToBeFree-20250825232200-White_Spider_Shadow-20250825231600 As for "flogging the dead horse", I doubt that improving the quality of WP articles should ever be called that.

The part about myself being notified about the request is true. — Preceding unsigned comment added by White Spider Shadow (talk • contribs) 19:51, 25 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

Regarding Statement by NekoKatsun:

I do not believe that requesting to bring the article to the standard worded in RFC is disruptive. Neither do I believe that an edit should be judged based on the editor's previous actions, as opposed to the edit itself.

Reopening the request certainly can be criticized, but since it was immediately reverted by a different editor, I don't think any harm was done by it.

The comment about reliability of Law360 is exactly what I asked for in my request, and it was not posted by the respondents. That's why I stated, and stand by my point, that it had not been addressed by the respondents. (Not going to discuss the other point in details, since, while I believe it, too, was not addressed, it relates to the EC-protected topic).

I also see no practical point in topic-banning a non-EC editor from an EC-protected topic that has been closed to discussion by non-EC editors for a while now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by White Spider Shadow (talk • contribs) 21:14, 25 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

Certainly.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MilesVorkosigan#c-MilesVorkosigan-20250902194100-White_Spider_Shadow-20250902193700 White Spider Shadow (talk) 19:34, 1 December 2025 (UTC)Reply

That was the reason why I wrote that they lied about me, in the instance mentioned by Aquillion. I think you'll agree that it's not a claim to be merely shrugged off. White Spider Shadow (talk) 02:16, 3 December 2025 (UTC)Reply

Regarding Statement by Aquillion:

The claims about my edits at the Zak Smith talk page seem to be manipulative. A) The editor whose behaviour I had addressed had since admitted that their claims about me were baseless, and agreed to remove them. I can provide the diffs if necessary, though I consider the conflict resolved. B) Those edits have no relation to the current request, and no action against me was taken when they were made, despite the Talk page being quite active at the time, with some administrators participating in one way or another. White Spider Shadow (talk) 02:26, 30 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

Statement by NekoKatsun

You must be logged-in and extended-confirmed to edit or discuss this topic on any page (except for making edit requests, provided they are not disruptive) (emphasis mine). WSS is the fifth most prolific editor of the Zak Smith talk page, with a whopping 73 edits since August 21. Given this, and their repeated attempts at escalation to admins and arbitrators, I would consider this request disruptive - especially reopening it with no comment at all in the edit summary or on the article's talkpage.

Stating that their reasons for the edit request were not addressed is disingenuous at best. The respondents clearly explained why their removal of text is not appropriate given the outcome of the previous RfC. Also, a simple search for Law360 on the Reliable Sources Noticeboard turns up three different topics, one specifically about BLPs, all agreeing on reliability. "I was unable to find information" implies that they looked, so I'm a little curious as to how WSS missed the most basic of resources here.

The vibe I'm getting is that this discussion didn't go the way they want, and there's a refusal to accept that (via continual challenges on technicalities and the picking of nits). At this point I can't help but suggest a topic ban at the very least; Wikipedia is built on collaboration and consensus, and while they may be a great editor for other articles, it may be best if they keep away from this one. — Preceding unsigned comment added by NekoKatsun (talk • contribs) 20:52, 25 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

@White Spider Shadow: I actually would like to see your mentioned diffs regarding "A) The editor whose behaviour I had addressed had since admitted that their claims about me were baseless, and agreed to remove them." Also, with all due respect, I believe that the diffs provided by Aquillion (and Aquillion, please let me know if I'm misinterpreting) are intended to demonstrate that "the current request" is not an isolated one-off - it (the request) cannot be considered in a void. The issue is not if this specific request is a problem, it's if this request is indicative of a continuing and/or escalating pattern of behavior on your part. NekoKatsun (nyaa) 17:33, 1 December 2025 (UTC)Reply

Thank you! "...[a]dmitted that their claims about me were baseless, and agreed to remove them" is a very generous interpretation - the user in question, MilesVorkosigan, agreed to "stop pointing out that you're supporting a sex creep, you're correct that I don't have explicit evidence that you're doing it on purpose" and struck through a portion of a comment on the article talkpage. Regardless, I appreciate the clarification. NekoKatsun (nyaa) 21:54, 1 December 2025 (UTC)Reply

Statement by CoffeeCrumbs

I think the infraction here is pretty clear-cut. The edit request was answered; the proper thing to have done would have been to ask for clarification, not simply reverted the decline. And the edit request wasn't a particularly good one. Simply not being disruptive isn't enough; an edit request must be non-controversial or be a modification that includes an agreed-upon consensus. Children Will Listen's comment, specifically invoked for the edit request decline, directly stated that there was no agreed-upon consensus.

This being said, I personally feel a warning would be sufficient. While I share the community's unhappiness about the brigading that has taken a real toll on this topic and been a drain on the community's time and patience, this isn't a particularly egregious violation. In addition, I think WSS's behavior reflects a good faith attempt to try and follow the EC policy: they immediately stopped discussing Zak Smith once it became EC-restricted. Unlike many other involved editors, they've also edited on many topics unrelated to Smith, and edited other articles on completely unrelated articles since the EC restrictions.

Anything more, I feel, would be needlessly punitive. I think this editor's history indicates that they're unlikely to intentionally repeat this less-than-ideal edit request interaction. CoffeeCrumbs (talk) 17:32, 27 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

Statement by Aquillion

For context, between their first contribution to the recent controversy at Talk:Zak Smith and the page getting an extended-confirmed restriction a little over a month later, White Spider Shadow posted 71 times on the page, around 12% of the total. This continued even after an RFC intended to settle the issue; in fact, the extended-confirmed protection itself was imposed after White Spider Shadow went to ArbCom after the RFC, effectively asking them to overturn it.

Those edits included accusing editors of lying [58] and general incivility or presumptions of bad faith: [59][60][61][62]. Much of their replies were also repetitive or sealioning, eg. [63][64][65].

More examples of the repetition: [66][67][68][69] [70] [71] [72][73][74] - honestly this was the worst part; they stubbornly refused to WP:DROPTHESTICK, despite multiple RFCs reaching the same conclusion, despite dragging the matter to ArbCom and getting a result that functionally removed them from the page, and despite having almost no new arguments, they'd just constantly repeat the same thing over and over and over, demanding that everyone answer their questions to their satisfaction.

A topic-ban from Zak Smith seems like the bare minimum, especially since in retrospect (looking at contribution numbers, and keeping in mind the most prolific contributor in that timeframe was already topic-banned) the extended-confirmed restriction can reasonably be described as having removed White Spider Shadow specifically from the article's talk page. --Aquillion (talk) 22:27, 29 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

Statement by (username)

Result concerning White Spider Shadow

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Cinaroot

Latest comment: 4 hours ago28 comments9 people in discussion

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Request concerning Cinaroot

User who is submitting this request for enforcement: Nehushtani (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 18:42, 29 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

User against whom enforcement is requested: Cinaroot (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
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Sanction or remedy to be enforced: WP:1RR

Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it

03:24, 22 November 2025 - Edit including removing material, which is considered a revert.
07:19, 22 November 2025 - 1RR violation
02:00, 23 November 2025 - 1RR violation
I asked them on their talk page to revert, they insisted that it was not a violation, after I and another user told them that it was indeed a violation, they admitted that the third revert was a violation but still refused to revert. I asked them a third time and said that if they did not revert, I would take it to AE, but they have yet to revert.
09:24, 29 November 2025 - They wrote a statement against me on a complaint I had filed in AE against another user and claimed to be "un-involved". They were in fact uninvolved in the dispute that they were writing about, but they should have disclosed that we were involved in a dispute in the talk page, and I do not believe this was a coincidence.
6 November 2025 They tagged only "people they like" on a talk page discussion. I warned them on 6 November 2025 and another user warned them for the same edit on 7 November 2025 for WP:CANVASSING. While it may technically not be a violation since it was an informal discussion, it seems inappropriate to tag only certain users to a followup on a discussion on a contreversial topic.

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Not applicable.

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Additional comments by editor filing complaint

@Newslinger - The first edit from 03:24, 22 November 2025 is a revert of this edit from 00:00, 10 November 2025, where @Cinaroot removed the two paragraphs previously added in the previous edit. Nehushtani (talk) 07:00, 2 December 2025 (UTC)Reply

@Cinaroot - The claim that this filing is retaliatory is incorrect considering that I told you the day before 08:34, 28 November 2025 that "This is the third and last time I will ask you. If you do not revert, I will have no choice but to take it to AE." Your support for إيان was only after this warning. Nehushtani (talk) 07:24, 2 December 2025 (UTC)Reply

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Statement by Cinaroot

Cinaroot's statement contains 649 words and complies with the 650-word limit.

Extension granted to 650 words. — Newslinger talk 21:07, 1 December 2025 (UTC)Reply

Nehushtani appears to be attempting to weaponize AE and target editor(s) they disapprove. The 1RR issue cited here is between Originalcola and myself, not Nehushtani. Nehushtani was not involved in the discussion on the article talk page — where I clearly stated that Originalcola was free to revert me. Originalcola also explicitly responded with Ideally I’d like you to self-revert, but if you don’t see this that’s fine

After Nehushtani targeted me and inserted themselves into the situation on my talk, I again asked Originalcola on my talk page whether they wished for me to self-revert. Their reply was: I am not entirely sure if you need to self-revert the third revert, right? — which confirms that there was no clear expectation that I revert myself. Another reason I did not revert is that multiple editors had already reverted it [75] [76], and a talk-page discussion was underway. Reverting again would only have led to further disruption and 1RR policy shouldn’t be applied through an overly rigid or literal interpretation without considering the underlying principles and context.

I also do not think my first edit qualifies as a revert. I asked about in admin noticeboard. No one has responded. Edit_or_Revert Removing or relocating content can be a normal part of editing, and in this case the purpose was to create a new section while retaining most of the material from the original one.

Regarding the statement i made in the case against إيان: I am indeed an uninvolved editor, as I was not part of that dispute. I did participated in the RfC today, after submitting my statement. My dispute with Nehushtani does not prohibit me from making a statement on any AE and nor does it relate to AE against إيان. There is no requirement that you must disclose all prior disputes or disagreements with another editor in unrelated discussions. My statements here are in good faith.

The canvassing accusation is baseless. It was an informal discussion that could not result in any change to the Contentious topic article title. I am free to notify or tag any editors I choose, as I have already explained here and here. Please also note that - i tagged 2 editors who opposed and supported from previous discussion. Cinaroot (talk) 20:47, 29 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

@BlookyNapsta You were currently involved in the dispute with إيان and engaged in an edit war with them. Yet you submitted a statement about me without disclosing that involvement, while also arguing that I should have disclosed my active dispute with Nehushtani when I commented in support of إيان. Should the same disclosure standard not apply to you as well? Cinaroot (talk) 19:18, 30 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

@Originalcola I only formed the view that Nehushtani is weaponizing AE after they filed the request against me — not before. My statement in support of إيان was made prior to the AE request concerning me. Cinaroot (talk) 19:39, 30 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

@Newslinger In this edit, Nehushtani stated that I “didn’t tag any pro-Israel editors,” which implies that the editors I did notify are “pro-Palestinian.” In another edit, they accused a different editor of “taking the pro-Palestinian side.” Assigning political identities to editors is inappropriate in ARBPIA, constitutes a personal attack, and violates WP:AGF and WP:ASPERSIONS.

Furthermore, they opened an AE request against me immediately after I expressed support for إيان, and 6 days after my 1RR violation and after i agreed to self revert. The timing makes the filing appear retaliatory rather than a neutral enforcement action. Cinaroot (talk) 07:00, 2 December 2025 (UTC)Reply

@Metallurgist Please do not allege serious conduct issues like POV-pushing without providing solid evidence. Impressions based on my poor choice of words and insinuations are not valid evidence.

Admins are reminded to avoid unwarranted or disproportionate sanctions based on unsupported claims. Cinaroot (talk) 07:16, 2 December 2025 (UTC)Reply

Note: Out of the ~25 people who opposed - at least 10 opposed as per @Cdjp1 So my decision to tag @Cdjp1 is also based on weight. Cinaroot (talk) 07:36, 2 December 2025 (UTC)Reply

1RR violation reverted here Cinaroot (talk) 02:56, 3 December 2025 (UTC)Reply

Statement by BlookyNapsta

Violating 1RR is an affront to the community as a whole. It is not averted when the party being reverted agrees for the revert to stand, much less when they say that they would prefer that the offending editor reverts. Similarly, the claim that Nehushtani isn't a party in this dispute is misplaced, since 1RR is a community standard and not a method for resolving disputes between specific editors. Cinaroot should have self-reverted as soon as they were informed of the violation, and that they didn't should be grounds for sanctions.

Regarding "weaponizing AE" - If legitimate CTOP violations brought to AE are labeled as "weaponizing", we are in big trouble.

The other two edits may not have been technical violations of policy, but they add to the evidence that Cinaroot should not be participating in in CTOP if this is reflective of their behavior. Pinging only editors who share similar views on the IP conflict to a follow up discussion is inappropriate, as is writing a note on AE against an editor with whom that they are currently in the middle of a dispute without disclosing that. BlookyNapsta (talk) 13:08, 30 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

@M.Bitton - @Cinaroot violated 1RR while also adding contested content which is still under discussion. Wikipedia:ONUS states that "The responsibility for achieving consensus for inclusion is on those seeking to include disputed content." In keeping with the combination of Wikipedia:1RR and Wikipedia:ONUS, I believe that they should revert - as in, remove the content in question, which currently appears in the article - until there is a clear consensus to include it, and your own restoration of this disputed content is in itself edit warring. BlookyNapsta (talk) 08:37, 1 December 2025 (UTC)Reply

Statement by M.Bitton

@BlookyNapsta: given that Cinaroot was informed of the violation long after their edit was reverted, I don't see how they could have "self-reverted". M.Bitton (talk) 15:01, 30 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

@BlookyNapsta: since self-reverting means reverting one's edit and not someone else's, asking them to "self-revert" in this instance is akin to asking them to edit war (a request that should be ignored). As for the stable content: it's there because someone else restored what was removed without a valid reason. M.Bitton (talk) 13:24, 1 December 2025 (UTC)Reply

@Originalcola: you only pointed out the violation after their revert had been reverted. M.Bitton (talk) 21:43, 30 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

Statement by Cdjp1

As I am involved in the claimed canvassing by Cinaroot, having been tagged by them, I have to say, it doesn't seem to be a clear cut case of potential canvassing. The discussion that Cinaroot started on the talk page for the article (Open (Transparency)) was an informal discussion about a future potential RfC. This informal discussion was off the back of a previous RM started by Cinaroot to rename the article, which saw a conclusion that the article would not be moved to Cinaroot's suggested new title. As most people who opposed this specific move were open to and even suggested potential alternate move targets, Cinaroot wanted to explore potential alternatives further before starting any more formal process in the future. In this informal discussion Cinaroot chose to tag four people from the previous RM for potential input. Of these four people, two had supported the move, and two had opposed it (including myself). As can be seen in the archived discussion, I was strongly against the suggested move. So while picking people [you] like may indicate partisanship (Partisan (Audience)), the choice to pick an equal amount of individuals who supported your position and opposed it, suggests the opposite (Nonpartisan (Audience)). The last two categories we have at WP:CANVASSING for an inappropriate notification on Scale and Message I also don't think are inappropriate as it was the single message on the article talk page (Limited posting), and while the message that is the start of the informal discussion details the bias that is Cinaroot's position, Cinaroot is explicit that this is their opinion, and they want input from others as to what potential future formal discussions could be (Neutral (Message)). -- Cdjp1 (talk) 16:13, 30 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

Statement by Originalcola

I find the assertion that this is an issue between 2 editors to be extremely misleading, given that he had also reverted the edit of @IOHANNVSVERVS in his first WP:1RR violation. The issue involving me specifcally refers to his reversion of a revert that I had made on the page following [a discussion on the Gaza Genocide talk page]. I am still unsure about what the resolution of the discussion was meant to be, or if it was an RfC or not. The mod who had closed the discussion offered to give an explanation but was injured in a car crash and unable to respond to comments as a result, and many editors who were not involved in the original discussion suggested that the conclusion of the discussion differed from what I thought it was which left me confused.

The editor proposed that I could revert their edit in their edit summary and in the talk page. I had not noticed at the time that they had made multiple reverts in a 24 hour time period, so I did not initially insist that they self-revert in the talk page. I was kind of taken aback when they suggested that I should revert their edit and break the WP:1RR myself, which made me think that the request was not sincere. When I was asked again I stated that they should've done so earlier and that I was presently not sure if they needed to revert given that intermediate edits had been made since then. Cinaroot did say that he would revert the edit if I made an explicit request, but this shouldn't have occurred to begin with. I stated that they should have reverted as soon as it was pointed out to them(by both me on the talk page and Nehustani) that they had broken WP:1RR, stating i don't see a point in reverting it just for the sake of 1RR and that While we should follow these rules, it’s equally important to understand why those rules exist. Policies shouldn’t be applied through an overly rigid or literal interpretation without considering the underlying principles. This is also not the only time that this editor has broken the WP:1RR on this page, as they did so around one month prior: [77] [78] [79]. The justification that was given to me when I raised this concern was that the content was removed as part of talk discussions. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gaza_genocide/Archive_20#Are_protest_images_relevant_here?, but this is only not true for all the content removed but also irrelevant to this issue.

I also find it concerning that they claimed to be an uninvolved editor in another AE, which seems to be directly contradicted by the seperate claim that Nehushtani appears to be attempting to weaponize AE and target editor(s) they disapprove. The fact that they held this view after earlier claiming to have accidently violated WP:1RR is weird, since it appears to be an extreme assumption of bad faith towards Nehushtani. Either way they should not have portrayed themselves as uninvolved given that the 2 editors were involved in a dispute. Originalcola (talk) 22:18, 30 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

Statement by Metallurgist

Cinaroot has seemed to be POV pushing and trying to force their views onto articles all over PIA, which has been concerning. They seem heavily focused on that area to the point of bordering on WP:SPA. The instance where I felt they were canvassing was not directly canvassing for support, but did give an unsavory appearance. Even tagging for and against, they still mentioned tagging editors they liked, which was selective and entirely unnecessary. I did agree with the discussion proposal, but to not include all involved editors is disingenuous. I would have made it myself, but I knew it would involve tagging a large number of people. In light of that, it would have been best to just tag no one. Im also wondering why they archived the entire talkpage of Palestinian genocide accusation [80] [81] [82]. As it is, that issue is still unresolved. The RFC on Israel also looks like an attempt at POV pushing. In a lot of these cases, what they want is already mentioned, and they are trying to push it further along beyond what is reasonable. I think some sort of PIA restriction for awhile might be in order, at least to see if they are willing to broaden their contributions. ← Metallurgist (talk) 06:16, 2 December 2025 (UTC)Reply

@Sean.hoyland I had the same thought of looking into edit counts and it is indeed somewhat difficult to evaluate. But I noticed the top edited pages include Gaza genocide, Al Jazeera Media Network, Palestine, Gaza war, al Jazeera English, List of companies involved in the Gaza war. What did you use for those percentages? Feel free to reply on my TP to save words. ← Metallurgist (talk) 20:15, 2 December 2025 (UTC)Reply

Statement by Sean.hoyland

re: They seem heavily focused on that area to the point of bordering on WP:SPA. 'seem' is probably not very reliable. I don't know how to test whether an account qualifies as single purpose, but we can label revisions and count them. If you do that for Cinaroot using the strictest possible model of the topic area, pages where ECR applies to the entire page (and talk page), Cinaroot has made 32.3% of their post-extendedconfirmed edits in the topic area. A few comparisons for interest: Originalcola: 37.4%, Nehushtani: 24.3%, BlookyNapsta: 16.3%, Cdjp1: 7.4%. I am an SPA, as it states on my user page, or at least that is my intent, to only carry out PIA related actions, and my post-extendedconfirmed percentage is 55%. Metallurgist, you are 17.3% for interest. These are all undercounts somewhat in that they don't include edits to pages only partly covered by ECR, but it gives you some idea of the numbers. Sean.hoyland (talk) 07:46, 2 December 2025 (UTC)Reply

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This section is to be edited only by uninvolved administrators. Comments by others will be moved to the sections above.

@Nehushtani: Could you identify the original edit for which the 03:24, 22 November 2025, diff would be considered a revert of? — Newslinger talk 18:19, 1 December 2025 (UTC)Reply
- @Nehushtani: At 08:34, 28 November 2025, why did you tell Cinaroot that "If you do not revert, I will have no choice but to take it to AE", when Cinaroot's "third edit" at 02:00, 23 November 2025, had already been reverted by another editor at 15:37, 23 November 2025? — Newslinger talk 01:38, 3 December 2025 (UTC)Reply
@Cinaroot: There is no need to specify whether you are "un-involved" when you are offering a statement in a "Discussion concerning..." section on this noticeboard (as done in your 09:24, 29 November 2025, edit), because it makes no difference to the result. — Newslinger talk 18:19, 1 December 2025 (UTC)Reply
- @Cinaroot: Your word limit has been extended to 650 words to allow you to substantiate your claim. — Newslinger talk 21:07, 1 December 2025 (UTC)Reply
- @Cinaroot: I consider your edit at 03:24, 22 November 2025 to be a revert of another editor's edit at 00:00, 10 November 2025, regardless of the extent to which you agree or disagree with the content in the latter edit. When you remove content from an article covered by the one-revert rule, you need to refrain from further content removals on that article for 24 hours. See Wikipedia:Reverting for examples of what is commonly considered a revert and what is not. — Newslinger talk 01:38, 3 December 2025 (UTC)Reply
- Noting user talk page discussion at User talk:Newslinger#AE - revert for the record. — Newslinger talk 02:09, 3 December 2025 (UTC)Reply
@Metallurgist: In Talk:Israel § RfC: Whether to state that Israel has committed genocide against Palestinians, although you posted a comment with "Strong oppose" in boldface, other editors expressed a range of views including both support and opposition in considerable volumes. In light of this, why do you believe Cinaroot's creation of the request for comment is "an attempt at POV pushing" that supports a sanction to curtail Cinaroot's editing in the topic area? — Newslinger talk 01:30, 3 December 2025 (UTC)Reply

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