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The content of Akçaabat meatballs was merged into Kofta on 7 April 2021. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists. For the discussion at that location, see its talk page.
Latest comment: 4 years ago3 comments2 people in discussion
Hey, @Materialscentist, @Largoplazo, @Anaxial, I can't follow what's happening -- is this POV-pushing (replacing Greek/Cypriot info with Turkish etc.), or is it just someone wrongheadedly trying to get the Turkish dish into the lead, etc.? (I did see that final edit summary, but it still might just be interpreted as wrongheaded and now super frustrated.) —valereee (talk) 15:15, 23 August 2021 (UTC)Reply
POV-pushing and appears to be the latest sockpuppet of Shingling334. The "Block Aviation" edit summary appears to be mockery of the WP:BLOCKEVASION mentions in some of the edits in these and other articles that have reverted changes by previous incarnations. Largoplazo (talk) 19:41, 23 August 2021 (UTC)Reply
Thanks, @Largoplazo. Variations sections in food articles do tend to attract POV-pushing; editors come in and see their own local variant isn't mentioned (or isn't mentioned in the lead) and think they have to add it. This subject may actually be large enough to spin off some articles. Probably the only variation that needs to be mentioned in the lead is the historically first, if that's something we can know. I'll do a little research. —valereee (talk) 10:30, 24 August 2021 (UTC)Reply
Latest comment: 4 years ago2 comments1 person in discussion
In most cases I wouldn't want to turn prose into a list, but in a food article variations section it can actually be extremely helpful in reducing the addition of a ton of unsourced assertions because we can limit the list to variations that have an article or that are plausible redlinks (that is, we can require a redlink include several links to sources). —valereee (talk) 11:18, 24 August 2021 (UTC)Reply
Latest comment: 2 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion
Most variants of this dish are made of meat but some traditional variants are meatless. There is of course the recent proliferation of vegetarian çiğ köfte as fast food in Turkey and elsewhere, but there's also the mercimek köftesi, which is made of red lentils, and without meat; and is a shared food of circum-Mesopotamian cuisines. There is also the mücver, which is a zucchini based fritter, which could be categorised as köfte and also belongs to the Greek cuisine, I believe. I am Turkish and no foodie; thus this is the couple variants I know, but surely other köfte-making cultures have many other variants too. So I suggest that someone edit the article and make it say that while köfte/kofta/etc are primarily or archetypically meat based products, they are not necessarily so. I would say the main feature of the köfte family is them being non-flour-based dumplings, of sorts. 46.2.232.210 (talk) 16:40, 1 December 2023 (UTC)Reply
'See also' kofta variants need to be described in main text
Latest comment: 1 day ago2 comments2 people in discussion
The article's 'See also' list contains multiple variants of kofta which should be in a 'Variants' chapter of the main text, with brief cited descriptions of each one (and they should be removed from the 'See also' list).
That raises the question of why they're bluelinks anyway; several of them are very short articles with few and weak sources, so they should probably redirect here. Chiswick Chap (talk) 07:59, 13 April 2026 (UTC)Reply
Good point on both counts. For variants that don't have enough content to stand alone, redirecting here and integrating them into a variants section would make the article more useful. WP:STANDALONE asks whether a topic can sustain a full article, and several of the stub pages probably can't without considerably more sourcing. A variants section using brief prose descriptions, with redirects from the short article titles, seems like a reasonable path. The main challenge would be finding reliable sources that specifically discuss each regional variant rather than just naming it in a list. Bohosquare1 (talk) 11:56, 24 May 2026 (UTC)Reply
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