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I don't like being called a liar, so I'll post this here, but I'm gonna flock it so this shit doesn't keep escalating. [ETA: Unflocked later so people without LJs can see the truth.] People who have said negative things about Gina on WRBeta are now getting flamed for their fics archived at the WRFA, so I guess the retaliation has begun. I don't want to do anything that's gonna bring a whole bunch of other people a lot of hassle.

Well, other than I already have, I guess. Heh.

Anyway.

At 2:51pm my time, Autumn posted in [livejournal.com profile] amezri's LJ and claimed that Gina was not a member of the DDFH list.

Nearly two hours later, at 4:34pm my time, I replied that that was untrue, because Gina was on the member list.

An hour or so later, Autumn responded and accused me of lying. She said there was no way I knew that for sure, because the member list is viewable only to mods. (This comment is screened and not viewable.)

And yes, the member list is viewable only to mods. Now.

That wasn't the case when this screencap was taken, clearly showing Gina's name on the DDFH member list, two hours after Autumn claimed that she was not a member.

If you look down in the corner, you can see today's date, and beneath it, though it's hard to read, it says 4:26pm.

So I suppose it *could* be true that Gina is no longer a member of DDFH. But. Since it appears that Autumn, just in the past four hours, lied about her being gone, and then lied about the member list, I guess I'm not convinced she's telling the truth now.

Which really isn't my concern, except that I'm getting really really tired of Autumn et al lying *all the damn time*.

And Amezri, I'm sorry that shit happened in your LJ, but all this bullshit and deception is wearing a little thin, and I've just about had it with the constant re-structuring of the truth that goes on in that camp.

Autumn was more than happy to welcome Gina (who was banned from DDFH for a brief time) back into the fold after she flamed jenn so spectacularly, like it was a reward or something for attacking one of their most hated enemies, and now she's trying to distance herself.

As is Jonas, who is backtracking like hell now about that email he sent me this morning.

Jesus.

Like a bunch of goddamn greased weasels over there.

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Date: 2004-01-11 06:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jjblazer.livejournal.com
i know for a fact that the Members list 'used' to be publicly available on the DDFH - i'd go look up someone's email address on occasion. i can't tell you when that feature was removed from public access but from your screen cap i'd say it was sometime after 4:26pm today - which means Autumn only locked the Members access so she could call you a phony. the convoluted machinations required to keep her stilted worldview intact is staggeringly petty.

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Date: 2004-01-12 07:07 am (UTC)
ext_80968: (Default)
From: [identity profile] arquiloren.livejournal.com
It's pretty funny, well, ridiculous is more the word, that these people claim to have nothing to do with Gina and her doings, yet it's pretty obvious they do and just try to cover up any evidences.

And just like every action Gina has taken since all this feud started (i.e., taking down her site, making her R/L Lounge private), Autumn has been taking action on her own (trying futilely to defend her site, "banning" Gina from her list -though we'd still have to see this-, suddenly making her member list viewable only to members).

It makes you look more guilty, people!

(no subject)

Date: 2004-01-12 07:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cschoolgirl.livejournal.com
Oh for christ's sake, can't they make up their fucking minds. Let the bitch do your dirty work and either back her or don't. Get off the fucking fence unless you like the sore ass.

*frowns*

Sorry, about all the cussing I think I've stored it up too long.

*hugs DD*

(no subject)

Date: 2004-01-16 12:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] devildoll.livejournal.com
Oh for christ's sake, can't they make up their fucking minds. Let the bitch do your dirty work and either back her or don't. Get off the fucking fence unless you like the sore ass.
Exactly. This is exactly what bugs me about it. If you're gonna back her, then have the balls to do it in public. Jeez.

*HUGs*

Date: 2004-01-12 09:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] casiel.livejournal.com
No matter what anyone else says,
Image

Re: *HUGs*

Date: 2004-01-16 11:15 am (UTC)
fyrdrakken: (Constantine)
From: [personal profile] fyrdrakken
I don't know which I like better -- the usage of the anatomical heart instead of the valentine variety, or the use of the priest from Temple of Doom for the base...

Re: *HUGs*

Date: 2004-01-20 05:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] casiel.livejournal.com
*teehees*
*starts chanting in punjabi*

Re: *HUGs*

Date: 2004-01-22 12:45 am (UTC)
fyrdrakken: (Vicious)
From: [personal profile] fyrdrakken
Oh, and it's even beating! I didn't notice that before!

May I borrow that for a week or two?

Re: *HUGs*

Date: 2004-01-22 02:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] casiel.livejournal.com
Sure thing

Re: *HUGs*

Date: 2004-01-16 12:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] devildoll.livejournal.com
*dies* Oh, man, Randy, that is so gross and so funny!

And I wish I had a fiery pit I could use for human sacrifices.

*sad sigh*

Re: *HUGs*

Date: 2004-01-20 05:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] casiel.livejournal.com
You and me both. Especially last week.

(no subject)

Date: 2004-01-12 12:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imacartwright.livejournal.com
She's also put the list on full moderation (all messages require approval).

They are just so damn wishy-washy. Either defend Gina or not. Karen posted something recently on that list about being a protective "mama-bear" when people pick on her friends. (She also sent a private email to Tinhutlady awhile back, stating that Gina was a very good friend of hers in response to Tinhutlady saying it was extremely hard to beta Gina's work and that was why she has declined since.) Funny, I haven't seen her mentioned in the latest round of bull dealing with Gina. I guess the mama-bear is hibernating for the winter.

Any moment now I'm expecting Autumn to post a message about how crummy she feels about the whole fandom and how she's contemplating disolving the list, blah, blah, blah (like she did about a year ago) in an attempt to rally sympathy from that group.

It makes me sad to think I actually used to feel sorry for her/them. Well, I still do, but it's now in a "she's/they're sick and demented" sort of way.

DD, I'm sorry this crap keeps landing at your doorstep. *hugs*

(no subject)

Date: 2004-01-20 06:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] devildoll.livejournal.com
Either defend Gina or not.
Yes. That's my beef with it. If you're going to stick with her, then stand up and do it, don't try to hide it. Geez.

Any moment now I'm expecting Autumn to post a message about how crummy she feels about the whole fandom and how she's contemplating disolving the list, blah, blah, blah (like she did about a year ago) in an attempt to rally sympathy from that group.
Complete with badly-spelled poetry, if I recall correctly. Crikey.

DD, I'm sorry this crap keeps landing at your doorstep. *hugs*
Thanks, Jennie. Realizing that other people actually see through their crap made a big difference. *hugs*

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