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List of tallest buildings in Charleston, West Virginia

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This is a restoration of a list previously deleted at AfD - I still don't think the reasons for deletion have been addressed so I am submitting it again for deletion with largely the same deletion reasons as before (original rationale was written by User:Premeditated Chaos). Charleston has zero skyscrapers (defined as a building taller than 100m) and none planned. Similar case to List of tallest buildings in Gwalior, List of tallest buildings in Bradenton, Florida and List of tallest buildings in Macon, Georgia and many, many other AfDs that we have had over the last few years on similarly non-notable lists of buildings in cities where none of the buildings are actually that tall.

Additional points for consideration:

Firstly, the list has no navigational purpose as all bar one of the buildings featured are not notable enough for their own Wikipedia article. For that matter, I don't think it meets any of the 3 purposes at WP:LISTPURP.
Secondly, this topic does not have WP:SIGCOV in WP:RS. Individual news articles about one of the individual buildings in this city do not automatically make an article about the heights of all of the buildings in that city a notable topic.
I see no evidence that the topic 'List of tallest buildings in Charleston' is covered as a group by reliable secondary sources but I am happy to be proved wrong here. In other words, Charleston doesn't seem to have attracted much attention specifically relating to the heights of its buildings.
No skyscrapers under construction or even planned currently so little chance of future notability; no point in sending to draft.
I really do not believe that a building simply being more than 50m tall makes it notable. It's an incredibly low bar. Can you imagine the reaction if we set the bar so low on a similar list for Tokyo or Chicago? There would literally be thousands of towers in those lists.
The topic is already covered more than adequately at List of tallest buildings in West Virginia, so this list is a fairly unnecessary spinoff in my view. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 08:09, 20 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Novi Expo Center

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The original Novi Expo Center, which closed in 2009, is of questionable notability to warrant a standalone article; its history is discussed in the article about the Suburban Collection Showplace, which replaced it. Most of the text of this article directly duplicates the article about the newer facility. 42-BRT (talk) 18:58, 19 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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For additional context: Novi Expo Center previously redirected to Suburban Collection Showplace, until an editor twice removed the redirect and replaced it with a standalone article consisting primarily of copied text, with minimal edits, from the latter article.

The current facility, Suburban Collection Showplace, is notable as the second-largest conference center in the Detroit region, and the venue of the Michigan State Fair, Motor City Comic Con, and other major public conventions and professional conferences. The Novi Expo Center hosted some of these events, but in my opinion is only sufficiently notable to be discussed on Wikipedia as part of the history of the newer facility; similarly, it is discussed in considerably fewer published sources than the current center. 42-BRT (talk) 19:07, 19 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Edwin Howard (architect)

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Fails WP:GNG.4meter4 (talk) 20:31, 15 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Art competitions at the 1932 Summer Olympics#Events summary – As WP:ATD. Svartner (talk) 20:43, 15 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep – The coverage found by Beaniefan looks adequate for WP:SIGCOV. Svartner (talk) 17:10, 18 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. Olympedia (150+ words) is SIGCOV #1, then there's a good deal of mentions in the New York press of his time, including 1 2 3 4 + 5. BeanieFan11 (talk) 21:15, 15 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @Svartner: BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:59, 18 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Redirect per Svartner. BlookyNapsta (talk) 10:06, 18 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- What's wrong with the sources presented? BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:59, 18 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I've expanded the article and also added a source. It's hard to find digitized materials from a hundred years ago (!), but the fact that people are still writing about him/his work today says a lot. William Frenaye has a similar case. Barseghian Lilia (talk) 14:00, 19 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Al-Aman Mosque

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Mosque in Algeria that though large does not appear to be notable. Mccapra (talk) 09:39, 15 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to List of mosques in Algeria – As WP:ATD. Svartner (talk) 22:52, 15 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to List above, there arent any links in other than the list, so a redirect is pointless. ← Metallurgist (talk) 04:41, 16 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
But for attribution reasons a redirect and merge would be better. See Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia. A redirect would preserve the history. Anyway, see the articles in other language (eg French) and you’ll see some reliable sources adressing the subject in depth and directly. It’s a Keep for me. This is a rather big mosque and it has received coverage, https://www.algerie360.com/souk-ahras-el-amane-la-plus-grande-mosquee-de-la-wilaya-a-receptionner-au-1er-trimestre-2016/ http://www.lemidi-dz.com/index.php?operation=voir_article&id_article=midi_centre@art2@2012-10-08 https://www.vitaminedz.com/fr/Souk-Ahras/la-mosquee-el-amane-de-souk-ahras-103899-Photos-41-542-1.html https://www.djazairess.com/fr/elwatan/1140043 (and at least 3 other articles about other aspects of the mosque in the same media outlet), for example. ~2025-38537-34 (talk) 20:45, 18 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Bayside Marketplace

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Marketplace arricle was created and most of the sources are coming from a single inbcident that happened in 2024 after doing before at google news. This is a case of a single event,thus failing notability. 🍕BP!🍕 (🔔) 06:04, 14 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Seems to be part advert, part gallery, part article. Can't see any notability doktorb _words^deeds 06:38, 14 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete One disturbance does not confer notability on a shopping center, nor does a travel guide. Even the fact that it was the site of Wikipedia:Meetup/Miami 2 is not enough. :-) - Donald Albury 14:45, 14 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, but I’ll update this if I can’t find enough info to fix it I’m currently updating the article to fix its issues from a lack of citations and a lack of context. However, if I can’t find anything to correct it, then it should be deleted for lack of notability. One incident does not justify notability. Update Dec 15 2025 10:29 PM EST: I added History, moved the incident to a seperate section called “Incidents”, and gone over the marketplace’s decline. - Aspifi 9:01 PM, December 14, 2025 (EST)
Keep Sorely needs newspaper sourcing, but this meets the GNG. I'm also seeing coverage that was picked up in wire services (UPI did an article on the development), and The Atlanta Journal and Constitution did a lengthy comparative article set on June 13, 1989, on Bayside and similar festival marketplace projects done by Rouse — which all have articles: Jacksonville Landing, The Outlet Collection at Riverwalk, Underground Atlanta, Harborplace. There is very substantial in-market coverage as well. A 2016 article in The Miami Herald called Bayside "among the city's most popular tourist draws". Aspifi, you should look into WP:TWL for Newspapers.com access if this is your topic area. Sammi Brie (she/her · t · c) 06:49, 15 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sure Aspifi (talk) 00:33, 17 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Draftify maybe then. Better Nuncio (talk) 20:45, 15 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

ArchiCamp

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Sockfarm PR for non notable organisation. Got a small amount of local interest coverage but otherwise lacks coverage in independent reliable sources. Part of a spamming effort for Jiri Lev using multiple sockpuppets. duffbeerforme (talk) 13:49, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Architects Assist

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Sockfarm PR for non notable organisation. Got a short burst of PR driven coverage when first created but not sustained. Otherwise lacks coverage in independent reliable sources. Part of a spamming effort for Jiri Lev using multiple sockpuppets. duffbeerforme (talk) 13:48, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete the sources all seem like WP:CHURNALISM from outlets that will run articles repeating press releases somebody sends them. Which isn't surprising giving the apparent provenance of the article. --Here2rewrite (talk) 04:57, 17 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom. BlookyNapsta (talk) 08:49, 18 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep or move under Australian Institute of Architects - appears there is ongoing activity and coverage of the initiative; I've added a couple of links within content - may not merit standalone article; a section under the parent org & redirect? Ellf30 (talk) 10:55, 19 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

NZIA Architecture Awards

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~~Non notable award. Supported by self published sources. Lacks coverage in independent reliable sources.~~Filmyy (talk) 11:07, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Discussion no longer applies due to the fact that a secondary reference is added. r f q i i ^talk! 00:27, 11 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: A WP:BEFORE uncovers plenty of significant coverage of the annual awards and award winners, e.g. [1][2][3][4][5] Nil🥝 07:05, 11 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: As a Kiwi, I've seen coverage of the annual awards plenty of times, and I'm not reading architecture magazines or anything that's industry-related. Therefore, sources will be out there. Schwede 66 20:35, 11 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Note: As per references provided by Nil and Schwede66, I withdrawal my nomination. Filmyy (talk) 08:25, 12 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to New Zealand Institute of Architects, routine coverage of the awards being given out is not necessarily significant coverage of the awards themselves. Currently there is more about the awards in the article about the institution and thus makes sense to direct readers there instead of a poorly fleshed out article. Traumnovelle (talk) 21:39, 12 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The article could be expanded to replace the section. r f q i i ^talk! 00:24, 13 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
But that hasn't happened, and a merge is easy to undo in the future if the article is actually expanded to a decent length. But currently the article is so lacking it makes more sense to direct readers to the main page than this one. Traumnovelle (talk) 23:35, 14 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The consensus was:
2 Votes for Keep
1 Vote for Merge
r f q i i ^talk! 05:05, 18 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Even if a case can be made for a merge, AfD is not the place for it. Kelob2678 (talk) 14:42, 18 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That is incorrect: 'Common outcomes are that the article is kept, merged, redirected, incubated, renamed/moved to another title, userfied to a user subpage, or deleted per the deletion policy.' Traumnovelle (talk) 20:13, 18 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
A merge is a possible outcome of a debate in which one side wants to delete an article entirely. But AfD is not the place to discuss mergers, this should be done on the article's talk page. Kelob2678 (talk) 20:24, 18 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Mergers can be discussed at AfD when they have already been brought to the venue and are regularly discussed at AfD. Wikipedia is a not a senseless bureaucracy. Traumnovelle (talk) 20:26, 18 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I think that it is wrong that an AfD can result in a merge. Kelob2678 (talk) 20:45, 18 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Mergers should be discussed on the article's talk page and not AfD r f q i i ^talk! 04:18, 19 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Garret Cord Werner

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Fails WP:NCORP. Cited sources are either promotional/unreliable or briefly discuss this obscure interior design firm. Gheus (talk) 10:03, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Same as the other one, coverage seems to mostly fail WP:AUD. I'm not seeing any notability here. Alpha3031 (t • c) 21:25, 3 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I am also inclined to push for a deletion on DELREASON 4 on a re-read, even though it doesn't quite meet G11. Alpha3031 (t • c) 07:47, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. The article is about an architecture and interior design practice with projects in the United States and Canada. In independent sources the firm is discussed mainly through coverage of specific completed work, including custom houses, multi unit residential projects and renovations of historically significant properties, rather than in general business reporting.

Over a number of years these projects have been written up in independent design and property publications as full project features, not just brief mentions. For this type of practice, coverage of built work is often the main way independent sources address the subject. I have added a couple of additional independent sources to the article to reflect this more clearly.

When I created the article I based my judgement on wiki policy that this kind of firm is less likely to receive sustained general coverage and more likely to be known through notable projects, in the same way that law firms may be covered through significant cases or academics through their h index and peer reviewed work. I still think this is the situation here, and I first learned about the company while reading about a historic renovation project that caught my attention. I also think there are a few good articles about the company that provide significant coverage. I have shared my view and I am happy to leave the final decision to other editors.

[6][7][8] Nullius Inverba 2 (talk) 22:47, 4 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Totally disagree with WP:AUD assessment above as two countries make it more than just regional. There is also a source in Chinese: https://vancouverboulevard.com/2020/03/livable-luxury-%E5%AE%9C%E5%B1%85%E2%80%A2%E5%A5%A2%E8%8F%AF/ Nagirakitan (talk) 12:30, 8 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Acceptable for the niche. I've evaluated a few sources:

Created with templates {{ORGCRIT assess table}} and {{ORGCRIT assess}}
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor.
Source	Independent?	Reliable?	Significant coverage?	Secondary?	Overall value toward ORGCRIT
https://www.generalcontractors.org/the-best-interior-designers-in-seattle-washington			a few paragraphs, but matters
https://www.seattletimes.com/pacific-nw-magazine/seattles-garret-cord-werner-gives-condo-its-own-glow/			about a project
https://www.ft.com/content/bf538d5d-884e-4b3f-ba7d-daacfbe9e916			about a project
https://westernliving.ca/homes-and-design/homes/this-vancouver-home-feels-more-like-a-resort-can-we-check-in-please/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

Brosticate (talk) 10:59, 9 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: per Brosticate Bagwe Neza (talk) 06:08, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
What evidence do you have that Western Living and General Contractors Magazine have a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy Bagwe Neza and Brosticate? They look like vanity/content farm websites from the about pages. I'm willing to defer this to a opinion on Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard but surely there's something intelligible to say about your position (like what would normally go in the rj= box)? Alpha3031 (t • c) 07:46, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Western Living is a long-standing architectural magazine with editorial oversight. Its awards are industry-recognized, and it is used in other articles (e.g. St. Lawrence (restaurant), Battersby Howat, Lang Wilson Practice in Architecture Culture, Tayybeh). As for General Contractors, its firm profiles are compiled through independent editorial selection and include methodology descriptions, comparative assessment of project typologies, and verification against built-work portfolios. It is acceptable as a supplementary industry source, especially when it is not being used to make claims of extraordinary significance but simply to support facts about recognition within the design-build sector. Brosticate (talk) 15:20, 11 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Since when did we use "supplementary industry sources" for notability? The relevant guideline explicitly says to avoid doing that unless independence is clear, and that there is a presumption against it. Alpha3031 (t • c) 03:22, 12 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There's no need to mince words. WP:GNG insists on independence, and it seems we have no sufficient grounds to question it in the case of GC, as the firm is being considered alongside others, and the article itself is attributed to the magazine's chief editor. Brosticate (talk) 18:53, 12 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete The fourth source in the table is about a project, not the firm. This leaves us with one source that has two paragraphs (137 words) and is from the trade press. Kelob2678 (talk) 15:48, 14 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I see a sufficient number of sources covering Garret Cord Werner and its projects. Moreover, I don't consider it appropriate to disregard the latter altogether. We're assessing the notability of the firm as a whole (that is, including its projects), rather than the suitability of creating a separate Wikipedia article for one of the projects. In the latter case, it would indeed be appropriate to separate a project from the firm and evaluate it independently.Better Nuncio (talk) 20:10, 15 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Architecture

List of tallest buildings in Charleston, West Virginia

Novi Expo Center

Edwin Howard (architect)

Al-Aman Mosque

Bayside Marketplace

ArchiCamp

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Garret Cord Werner

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