Hans Herr

Hans Herr (bef. 1650 - abt. 1725)

Born before in Blumenstein, Bern, Switzerland
Died about [uncertain] after about age 75 in Lampeter Twp, Lancaster, Pennsylvania

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Biography

The following biography differs from that presented in Theodore W. Herr's Genealogical Record of Rev. Hans Herr and His Direct Lineal Descendants, first published in 1908. It is based on recent research by Hanspeter Jecker [1] and others. For more background on the differences, see the Research Notes below.

Birth

Hans Heer, son of Hans Heer and Elsbeth Bürcky, was baptized on 27 January 1650 in the Reformed Church in Blumenstein, Canton of Bern, Switzerland. The witnesses were Peter Wenger[?], Hans Metler[?], and Anna Ruffiner. [2]

The Blumenstein church records also include the marriage of Hans' parents in 1643, the baptism of Hans' siblings (Christen in 1644, Barbara in 1647, Madeln in 1653, and Ueli in 1656), and the marriage of Hans' brother Christen "Zher" and Margret Lötscher in 1665.

The Palatinate

The Anabaptists in Switzerland suffered persecution in the 1600s, and many left the country (sometimes involuntarily), moving north into the Palatinate (also called the Pfalz), located on both sides of the Rhine River in what is now Germany. Hans and his wife, Elsbeth Lötscher, were among those who were displaced. They settled in Mannheim in the Palatinate, at the confluence of the Rhine and Neckar rivers, “where the Swiss brethren bought a house” (alwaar Zwitzersz broeders een huys gekocht hadden). [3] The area had been devastated during the recent Thirty Years' War (1618-1648) and life there was hard. Dutch Mennonites sent a delegation to the region to determine what aid was needed. Their report, dated 6 April 1672, detailed requests for help. Among those listed in Mannheim were: [4] [5]

  • Hans Herr, about 20, and Elsbet Lötscher, his wife, age 22, no children. These people can feed themselves from their linen weaving.

Also in Mannheim were Hans' brother, Christian Herr, 30, and three of Elsbeth's sisters: Margaret "Grietgen" Lötscher, 28 (Christian's wife); Anna Lötscher, about 29; and Salome Lötscher, about 20. The names and ages of the four Lötscher women correspond closely with four girls, daughters of the well-known Anabaptists Hans Lötscher and Anna Kammer, who were baptized in the village of Latterbach, near Erlenbach im Simmental. As the crow flies, Latterbach is only 10 km southwest of Blumenstein, where Hans was born, but by road, which skirts the intervening mountains, it's almost twice that far.

Another document from April 1672 was a list of people who had received money from the Dutch Mennonites. Christian Herr "and his brother" (unnamed), of Manneheim, appeared on this list. [6]

Note: Some sources place Hans and Christian Herr in Biegelhof, Germany, in 1671, [7] [8] but that information was based on a misreading of a document, which itself was in error. [9]

Anabaptism

Anabaptism, a forerunner of the Mennonites, seems to have entered the Herr family primarily through the women: first through Hans' mother, Elsbeth Bürki, and later through the wives of Hans and his brother Christen, members of the Lötscher family. [10]

Pennsylvania

In the spring of 1710, after forty years in the Kraichgau, a group of Mennonites left for America. But when they arrived in Rotterdam, they found they were short of funds, so Mennonites in Amsterdam loaned them money to complete their journey. [11] In June, the Swiss Mennonites, by then in London, sent a letter to Amsterdam thanking their brethren for their financial aid. They were aboard the ship Maria Hope and were preparing to sail for Gravesend, on the River Thames, and then to America. The letter was signed by Christian Herr and Hans Herr, as well as Martin Kendig, Jacob Muller, Martin Oberholtzer, and Martin Meili.[12] [13]

The immigrants arrived in Philadelphia in September 1710. The following July they received a patent conveying ownership of 10,000 acres of land in what is now Lancaster County, Pennsylvania.

Whether the Hans Herr of his profile was part of the initial group of settlers in 1710, or whether he arrived in 1717 with a later group, is still being debated, but there is no doubt that his son, John Herr ("the land agent," sometime also called Hans), was in the first contingent. [14]

Marriage and Children

While the Herr genealogy records that Hans Herr married Elizabeth Kendig, more recent research indicates that this is incorrect and that his wife was Elsbeth Lötscher. Details are recorded on the relevant profiles.

The only children of Hans Herr who are reasonably well documented are:

  • Abraham
  • Christian
  • John (or Hans), "the land agent"
  • Emanuel
  • Isaac

There is no proof that Maria Margarethe (Herr) Wäber, Maria (Herr) Brackbill, or Anna (Herr) Bauman were children of Hans Herr. And it's likely that Samuel Herr was actually a grandchild of Hans Herr, rather than a child, and should be merged with Samuel Herr, son of Abraham. [15]

Portrait and Physical Description

A description of Hans Herr was published by the Hans Herr Memorial Association in 1895. It was likely based on a portrait painted long after Hans Herr's death.

  • In person, he was of medium height, with long gray hair curled under at ends and parted in the middle; had heavy brows, dark hazel eyes, aquiline nose, mouth rather small with heavy lips, his complexion was florid, with full beard covering the face, the whole lighted by a countenance in which sweetness and austerity were gracefully blended.[16]

1719 Herr House

The Herr House (formerly called the Hans Herr House) was built in 1719 by Hans' son, Christian Herr. It is the oldest Mennonite meeting house in America still standing. It is now a museum, open to the public: 1719 Museum.

Death and Burial

A memorial stone in the Willow Street Mennonite Cemetery in West Lampeter Township, Lancaster County reads: [17]

  • Memorial
  • Rev. Hans Herr, one of the pioneer settlers of Lancaster County, born in Switzerland, Sep. 17, 1639, died Oct. 11, 1725.
  • Elizabeth Mylin Kendig Herr his wife, born in Switzerland, May 1, 1639, died June 9, 1730.
  • Rev. Christian Herr, son of Hans Herr, donater of this plot of ground for burial purposes, born in Switzerland, died 1750.
  • Anna his wife.

This stone was likely placed long after his death and may not mark his actual grave. The information on the stone is open to doubt, including his date of death—there is some indication that he was still alive in 1734. [18]

Research Notes

The standard genealogical reference for the Herr family in America is Theodore W. Herr’s “Genealogical Record of Rev. Hans Herr and His Lineal Descendants,” published in 1908. [19] According to this, the basic facts of Rev. Hans Herr’s life were:

  • Born: 17 September 1639, canton of Zurich, Switzerland
  • Died: 1725, Lampeter Township, Lancaster County, Pennsylvania
  • Married: 1660, Elizabeth Kendig, born 1644, died 1730
  • Elizabeth was the daughter of John Kendig and Jane Mylin
  • Children of Hans Herr and Elizabeth Kendig (based on the revised edition of 1994):
  1. Abraham Herr, d. by 1725
  2. Christian Herr, d. by 1749
  3. John Herr, b. 1672 or 1677, d. 1756
  4. Emanuel Herr, d. by 1745, m. Maudlin Brackbill
  5. Isaac Herr, d. 1747

T. W. Herr's work didn't include sources, and most of the early material was based on hearsay and tradition, [20] but it has generally been regarded as reliable. However, recent research by Hanspeter Jecker (President of the Swiss Association for Anabaptist History and co-editor of Mennonitica Helvetica) has cast doubt on this narrative. [21]

Sources

  1. Jecker, Hanspeter, The Swiss Origins of Pioneer Settler Hans Herr in Pennsylvania: Myths, Legends, and New Insights. Pennsylvania Mennonite Heritage, Volume 42, Number 3 (July 2019), pages 70-81.
  2. Blumenstein, canton of Bern, Switzerland, church book 2: Baptisms, 1600-1704 (K Blumenstein 2: Taufrodel (1600-1704), Eherodel (1600-1704), Totenrodel (1726-1753)), page 103
  3. Lowry, James W., et al., Documents of Brotherly Love: Dutch Mennonite Aid to Swiss Anabaptists, Volume I, 1635-1709. (2007) p. 455.
  4. Stadsarchief Amsterdam, Toegangsnummer (Access number): 565.A “Archief van de Doopsgezinde Gemeenten” (Archives of the Mennonite Congregations), Inventarisnummer (Inventory number): 1196: “Specificatie van uitgaven ten behoeve der Zwitserche broeders …” (Specification of Expenses for the Swiss Brothers, Fled to the Palatinate, …) , image 8 of 19.
  5. Lowry, James W., et al., Documents of Brotherly Love: Dutch Mennonite Aid to Swiss Anabaptists, Volume I, 1635-1709. (2007) p. 455.
  6. Lowry, James W., et al., Documents of Brotherly Love: Dutch Mennonite Aid to Swiss Anabaptists, Volume I, 1635-1709. (2007) p. 507.
  7. Mennonite Family History, volume 1, number 1 (January 1982), page 17. Palatinate Mennonites, by Lois Ann Mast.
  8. Friesen, Steve, A Modest Mennonite Home, (1990), page 21.
  9. Anne Augspurger Schmidt-Lange, Corrected Mennonite Entries in Friedrich Zumbach’s 1947 Manuscript, “Schweizer Zuwanderung in den Kraichgau nach dem 30-jährigen Krieg (Swiss Immigration into the Kraichgau after the Thirty Years’ War)” Pennsylvania Mennonite Heritage, January 2019, page 8.
  10. Jecker, Hanspeter, The Swiss Origins of Pioneer Settler Hans Herr in Pennsylvania: Myths, Legends, and New Insights. Pennsylvania Mennonite Heritage, Volume 42, Number 3 (July 2019), page 81.
  11. Friesen, Steve, A Modest Mennonite Home, (1990), page 27.
  12. Lowry, James W., et al., Documents of Brotherly Love, Dutch Mennonite Aid to Swiss Anabaptists, Volume II, 1710-1711.
  13. Programme Souvenir: Bi-Centennial Commemoration of the First Settlement in Lancaster County 1710 (1910).
  14. Friesen, Steve, A Modest Mennonite Home, (1990), pages 111-112.
  15. Herr, Theodore W. Genealogical Record of Reverend Hans Herr and His Direct Lineal Descendants Third Edition (1994), Supplemental Data on pages 789-790.
  16. Ellis and Evans, based on the portrait by Leon Von Ossko
  17. Find A Grave: Memorial #6812531 for Rev. Hans Herr.
  18. Friesen, Steve, A Modest Mennonite Home, (1990), page 111.
  19. Genealogical Record of Reverend Hans Herr and His Direct Lineal Descendants, by Theodore W. Herr, 1908, page 1.
  20. Rupp, I. Daniel, History of Lancaster County, 1844, pages 80-81.
  21. Jecker, Hanspeter, The Swiss Origins of Pioneer Settler Hans Herr in Pennsylvania: Myths, Legends, and New Insights. Pennsylvania Mennonite Heritage, Volume 42, Number 3 (July 2019), page 81.

See also:

  • Best, Jane Evan, "Martin Kendig's Swiss Relatives," Pennsylvania Mennonite Heritage, Vol. XV, No. 1 2-18, January, 1992
  • Brumbaugh, Dr. G. M. and Faust, A. B., "Swiss Emigrants in 18th Century to American Colonies," 2 vols., 1920 & 1925.
  • Casanova, Arturo Y., "A Carpenter Family of Lancaster," Lebanon, PA: A.Y. Casanova, ©1910; Reprinted from The Pennsylvania-German, Vol XI, No 2, Feb 1910; FHL film #1015845
  • Ellis, Franklin and Samuel Evans, "History of Lancaster County," Philadelphia: Everts and Peck, 1883
  • Eshleman, H. Frank, "Historic Background and Annals of the Swiss and German Pioneer Settlers of Southeastern Pennsylvania, and of Their Remote Ancestors, from the Middle of the Dark Ages, Down to the Time of the Revolutionary War," Lancaster, Pennsylvania, 1917.
  • Friesen, Steve, "A Modest Mennonite Home: The Story of the 1719 Hans Herr House, an Early Colonial Landmark," Good Books, Intercourse, PA, 1990, ISBN 0-934672-90-3
  • Harris, Alexander, "A Biographical History of Lancaster County : Being a history of early settlers and eminent men of the county; as also much other unpublished historical information, chiefly of a local character," Lancaster, PA: Elias Barr & Co., ©1872; FHL film #928247
  • Landis, Ira D., "A Landmark Moves Every Two Hundred Fifty Years," Mennonite Research Journal, Vol. 1:9, April, 1960
  • LaPlante, Patricia A. (Simon), website The Cameron and Paige Report, Publication: Everett, WA: Compiled 2001-2006; <http://wc.rootsweb.com/~laplante> Date: 7 Apr 2006
  • Mifflin, Lloyd, "The Pioneer of Peace: The Mennonite Farmer, 1710-1910," Lancaster County Historical Society Pub., Vol.XIV.
  • Moses, Betty M. (Grandstaff), Research: Grindstaff-Meeker-Tritt-Stapp, Publication: Tulsa, OK: B.M. Moses, ~2002 Files
  • Ober., Rev. H. K., "Plain People of Lancaster County, Pa.," Klein's History, pp.360-383.
  • Rupp, I. Daniel, "A collection of upwards of thirty thousand names of German, Swiss, Dutch, French and other immigrants in Pennsylvania from 1727-1776 : with a statement of the names of ships, whence they sailed, and the date of their arrival at Philadelphia, chronologically arranged, together with the necessary historical and other notes, also, an appendix containing lists of more than one thousand German and French names in New York prior to 1712," Philadelphia, PA: Leary, Stuart Co, ©1876; 974.8 W2ra 1985 FHL book
  • Smith, C. Henry, "Mennonite Immigration to Pennsylvania in the 18th Century," Norristown, Pa. 1929. Pub. by Penna. German Soc. Vol.XXXV.
  • Weaver, Martin G., "Mennonites of Lancaster Conference," Scottdale, Pa., Mennonite Pub. Co., 1931.
  • Weaver, Martin G., "Weaverland," New Holland, New Holland Clarion, 1933.
  • Wenger, Samuel S., "The Wenger Book," Pennsylvania German Heritage History Inc.
  • Biographical Annals of Lancaster County, Pennsylvania : containing biographical and genealogical sketches of prominent and representative citizens and many of the early settlers, Chicago, IL: J. H. Beers & Co., ©1903; FHL film #0908995
  • "Two Hundredth Anniversary of First Permanent White Settlement in Lancaster County", Lancaster County Historical Society Pub., Vol.XIV.
  • "Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s," Gale Research, Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc, 2010
  • "U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900," Yates Publishing. U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2004
  • Pennsylvania and New Jersey, U.S., Church and Town Records, 1669-2013: Historical Society of Pennsylvania; Philadelphia, Pennsylvania; Historic Pennsylvania Church and Town Records
  • Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/6812531/hans-herr: accessed 21 November 2023), memorial page for Rev. Hans Herr (17 Sep 1639–11 Oct 1725), Find a Grave Memorial ID 6812531, citing Willow Street Mennonite Church Cemetery, Willow Street, Lancaster County, Pennsylvania, USA; Maintained by AenneLa (contributor 48548982).
  • Wikipedia article: Hans Herr (Note: As of May 2024, this article had multiple issues and was based on outdated research.)

Acknowledgments

  • WikiTree profile Herr-146 created through the import of Most 2011_7b.ged on Oct 17, 2011 by Mike Saufley.
  • WikiTree profile Herr-99 created through the import of Abraham Herr.ged on Aug 18, 2011 by Cody Coggins.
  • WikiTree profile Herr-244 created through the import of Reichard Martin Family Tree.ged on Apr 2, 2012 by Ryan Myers.
  • WikiTree profile Herr-250 created through the import of JOSEPH~1.GED on Jul 14, 2012 by Joseph Stalnaker.
  • WikiTree profile Herr-116 created through the import of Ellen Kropp_s Family Tree.ged on Sep 7, 2011 by Ellen Kropp.
  • Thank you to Sandy Minder for creating WikiTree profile Herr-302 through the import of Delong gedcom.ged on Apr 27, 2013.
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Photos of Hans: 16

1719 Hans Herr House
(1/16) 1719 Hans Herr House Hans Herr (bef.1650-abt.1725), Christian Herr (abt.1680-abt.1750). 1849 Hans Herr Drive, Willow Street, PA 17584
Hans Herr Portrait by Von Ossko
(2/16) Hans Herr Portrait by Von Ossko Hans Herr (bef.1650-abt.1725). Lancaster County, Pennsylvania 1895
Hans Herr House
(4/16) Hans Herr House Hans Herr (bef.1650-abt.1725). Lancaster County, PA 18 Jun 2022
Hans Herr House, staircase
(5/16) Hans Herr House, staircase Hans Herr (bef.1650-abt.1725). Lancaster County, PA 18 Jun 2022

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Historical records are now coming to light from a lot of sources in Switzerland right now that are changing the historical narrative of a lot of facts known here, on Findagrave, Ancestry and FamilySearch concerning not just this family but those associated through marriages including the Rev. Blackbill’s linage line which Maria Herr, born 1673 was a part of this.

It’s going to take time to get it right and apply the data to the records. Example Frances Veronica Brackbill also know as Frances Veronica Brechbühl that married Hans Herr is not the daughter Rev. Blackbill and Maria Herr. She is actually the daughter of Christen Brechbühl Born 1650 Lauperswil, Bern, Schweiz Christening 19 Aug 1650 Lauperswil, Bern, Swtz

Ursula Meier

Birth 23. Februar 1648 Kreuzlingen, Thurgau, Schweiz

Christening Evangelisch, Kreuzlingen, Thurgau, Switzerland

Sincerely, Beth Binkley Barthold

posted by Beth Binkley

Beth, It's great that you've found some new sources. There are a lot of open questions about this family, so new research is always welcome, but we have to be as skeptical of new sources as we are of the old ones. Thank you for taking an interest in this family.

posted by William Horder

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Stella Phelps
Elisabetha Mylin (Kendig) Herr (1644-1730) was indeed the wife of Bishop Hans Herr and the mother of his children. It's true that there were not many well-kept records about women back then and the records of all of their children are hard to find, however, there are records (which I have put copies here & on Rev Hans Herr's page) proving she was his wife and the mother of his children. There is a record called "Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s" which proves Hans Herr; his wife, Elisabeth Kendig and child, Abraham (who was really a man, age 49) arrived in Pennsylvania in 1709 (source publication code 3570.1). Then there is another record: called No III "Swiss and German Settlers in Lancaster County from 1709-1730" showing more proof that Hans Herr was in Lancaster, PA in 1709. Then there is the "Lancaster, Pennsylvania, Mennonite Vital Records, 1750-2014" showing their birth, death years, who her parents were and some of their children (looks like the record after naming their 8th child might have come up missing), but at least this record tells us a lot. I have put a copy of that record on Rev, Hans Herr Wikitree page as well as on his wife's Elisabeth (Kendig) Herr's page as well as more proof that he was living in Lancaster County and was the bishop. There is a lot more proof.

posted by Stella Phelps

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Stella Phelps
According to the Lancaster, Pennsylvania, U.S., Mennonite Vital Records, 1750-2014, Hans Herr was born on Sept. 17, 1639 and died on Jan. 10, 1735. He was married to Elizabeth Kendig in 1660 (1644-1730). She was the daughter of John Kendig & Jane Mylin. This page names 8 of their children: Abraham, Rev. Christian, John, Samuel, Emanuel, Henry (?), Maria who married Rev. Benedict Brackbill and Isaac. It does not name Anna Kendig Herr and there are other children not named on this particular record. I know for a fact that Anna (Herr) Bauman was their daughter due to DNA matches on Ancestry. I did the DNA in 2012 and after that Ancestry had a beta where they would compare people (cousins) whose DNA matched yours and would record how according to each of our family trees up to our 7th great grandparents. Bishop Hans Herr and his wife, Elizabeth (Kendig) Herr were my 7th great grandparents. I have DNA matches with Anna Kendig Herr on Ancestry and her brothers: John, Abraham, Christian, Isaac and her sister, Maria.

posted by Stella Phelps

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Gina Meyers
Two people who show up at Ancestry as DNA matches to each other may believe they are descendants of the same ancestral couple, but the DNA match is not sufficient to prove it. They may both be mistaken in tracing their ancestry back to that ancestral couple. Or their shared DNA may come from a different ancestral line altogether, which they’ve not yet documented.

posted by Gina Meyers

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Stella Phelps
Did you notice the memorial for Bishop Hans Herr has his date of birth and his wife? That was the point I was trying to make, not the DNA matches. Someone has put the wrong date of birth, the wrong wife and the wrong mother of his children. Look at the memorial which is authentic. I have seen it myself when I visited Lancaster, PA in 2016. Note the memorial has the name of his wife as "Elizabeth Kendig" NOT the name that is shown on his page: Elsbeth (Lötscher) Herr. The mother and father-in-law of Bishop Hans Herr is NOT "Hans Lötscher & Anna Kammer. I shared an important document. Did you read the report from Lancaster, PA Mennonite record about Hans Herr (1639-1725) which very clearly states (just like the memorial stone) that Hans Herr was married to Elizabeth Kendig Herr, and they were married in 1600, and her parents (his mother and father-in-law, and the grandparents of his children) were John Kendig and Jane Mylin Kendig. These are my family members (ancestors through my Bowman family and my Keller family), and I would like to see this corrected with the proof I and others have shared: Memorial stone & Lancaster, PA Mennonite Vital Records. Check Find a Grave and other genealogical websites to see they all have this correct. This is wrong on Wikitree under Hans Herr profile: Herr-99 This is his real wife as documented: Kendig-26 She is also the mother of all of his children. I showed my 6th great grandmother who has matched DNA with 5 of their children. There are a lot more DNA matches, and that is the proof. I don't think my family tree and the many other family trees which match with mine, and we all as cousins share the same DNA would be considered "wrong". We're talking 5 children's family whose family trees on ancestry are in agreement, and we all share the same DNA taking us to Bishop Hans Herr and his wife, Elizabeth Kendig Herr. If you don't believe the memorial that someone shared on WikiTree, then go to these websites: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/6812531/hans-herr

http://lewis-genealogy.org/genealogy/docs/Herr-1.htm https://vitter.org/familytree/getperson.php?personID=I25530&tree=vittertree1 https://ia801604.us.archive.org/35/items/cu31924029842204/cu31924029842204.pdf

Thank you, Stella

posted by Stella Phelps
edited by Stella Phelps

The point that Gina was making is that you and all those other people undoubtably have a common ancestor, but DNA evidence by itself does not prove who that common ancestor was. The memorial shown on FindAGrave was created several centuries after Hans Herr's death and is based on information in the first edition of T. W. Herr's genealogy (1908), which has since been shown to be incorrect. The information in the Mennonite card file is based on the same source. A lot of research has been done since then and no primary source has been found for the birth date engraved on that stone, or for his marriage to Elizabeth Kendig. Hanspeter Jecker's detailed analysis in Pennsylvania Mennonite Heritage (source #1) is definitely worth a read.

posted by William Horder

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Stella Phelps
What do the Lancaster, PA history books say about the Herr family, the Bauman family and the Kendig family? Do these books state that this family came from Switzerland to Lancaster, PA in 1710? Do they say that it was the Lötscher family in Lancaster, PA or the Kendig family who were in Lancaster, PA in 1710? We want to make sure we do have the correct wife and the correct mother & grandparents for Hans Herr and his children because they have a lot of descendants alive today. My records on Ancestry shows that John Kendig arrived in America in 1709-1710. Martin Kindig (his son) arrived in Pennsylvania in 1709-1710. Hans Herr, his wife, Elisabeth Kendig and their son Abraham Herr arrived in Pennsylvania in 1709. Wendall Bauman arrived in Germantown, PA in 1707

Thank you & God bless you, Stella (a descendant through my dad's Bowman family & my mom's Keller family)

posted by Stella Phelps

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Gina Meyers
That’s a really good question, Stella. It’s important to consider what different people have said over the years. It’s also important to consider where they got their information from, and whether there is other evidence to back them up.

And yes, it’s especially important when the question also affects many other people.

In the case of Hans Herr, there are numerous history books and research collections which offer details of his life. There’s a long list of them under the heading “Sources” in the profile above.

The sources don’t always agree with each other. The big advantage of Wikitree is that we are able to collect all those different sources, discuss them if necessary, and come to a conclusion about which sources and which details are likely to be correct.

The details in the biography reflect what the Wikitree research community currently believes to be correct. The profile also includes a section with the heading "Research Notes", which records the details you are suggesting, and why they are believed to be wrong. If new evidence comes to light, then this can be added, and the biography can be amended if appropriate.

posted by Gina Meyers

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Gina Meyers
Herr-2010 and Herr-99 appear to represent the same person because: Clear duplicate. Herr-2010 cites Findagrave and Wikipedia (which relies in turn on the 1908 Herr genealogy). Discrepancies between these and other sources are discussed on Herr-99, and all details from Herr-99 should be retained on merge.

posted by Gina Meyers

Thanks, MIchelle. I added the new link.

posted by Kie (Entrikin) Zelms

The highly respected Swiss researcher Hanspeter Jecker has finally told us who the real Hans Herr is. His article "The Swiss Origins of Pioneer Settler Hans Herr in Pennsylvania: Myths, Legends, and New Insights" was published in the journal Pennsylvania Mennonite Heritage, Volume 42, Number 3, July 2019 is a "must-read" for all who want the truth about Hans Herr. His conclusions are summarized as follows. The brothers Christian and Hans Herr did not come from the canton of Zurich. Hans was not born in 1623. He was baptized in Blumenstein in the canton of Bern on 27 Jan 1650 and his birth year must be corrected to the year 1650. The wives of the brothers Christian and Hans Herr also did not come from the canton of Zurich, but were from Latterbach near Erlenbach in the Simmental in the canton of Bern. The wives were the Anabaptists Margret and Elsbeth Lötscher. Original documents used in this study show that Anabaptist thinking came first from Elsbeth Burcki, the wife of Hans Herr, Sr. and then through the wives of Hans Herr, Jr. and his brother Christian, women from the Anabaptist Lötscher family.

These revelations will require a considerable amount of work. I will begin today to amend the biography of Hans, detach all the incorrect persons, and create the new wife and parents of Hans. The summary above will be added as Research Notes

posted by Bruce Fosnocht



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