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GOCE mentorship
Greetings. I've been on Wikipedia for a couple of years now, but I recently thought I'd get involved with Copy-editing. I've done a bit before, but it's mostly been on articles I've been involved with/know a fair bit about; so I thought I'd ask if you'd be willing to watch over my initial attempts a little. I signed up for the August blitz, and I'm going to give at least a couple of articles a shot; but I'd feel a lot better if somebody glanced over my work. Regards, Vanamonde93 (talk) 08:28, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
- Welcome to the GOCE; we can use your help! You can see the above thread for instructional links, and just ping me when you have something you'd like checked. Since the request articles can be a bit more demanding to copyedit than the ordinary backlog ones, if you'd rather wait for the month-long September backlog-reduction drive that's okay too. Have fun and all the best, Miniapolis 13:48, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks! As you said above, there doesn't seem to be a commitment during the blitz; so I'll give the articles a glance, and if they seem too difficult I'll just bail out, and wait for the backlog drive. Cheers, Vanamonde93 (talk) 14:20, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
- Hello again. I just made at attempt to copy-edit Dattatraya Parchure, and I'd be grateful if you could look it over. It seemed a good candidate because I've worked on related articles before, and knew the material at least a little. here is a combined diff of what I did, and here is the article history, in case you want to look at my rationale for removing some things. There were also a couple of edits by another editor in between; not too significant, though. Cheers, Vanamonde93 (talk) 07:53, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
- Sure. As soon as finish the article I'm working on later today, I'll take a look at it. All the best, Miniapolis 13:50, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
- Hello again. I just made at attempt to copy-edit Dattatraya Parchure, and I'd be grateful if you could look it over. It seemed a good candidate because I've worked on related articles before, and knew the material at least a little. here is a combined diff of what I did, and here is the article history, in case you want to look at my rationale for removing some things. There were also a couple of edits by another editor in between; not too significant, though. Cheers, Vanamonde93 (talk) 07:53, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks! As you said above, there doesn't seem to be a commitment during the blitz; so I'll give the articles a glance, and if they seem too difficult I'll just bail out, and wait for the backlog drive. Cheers, Vanamonde93 (talk) 14:20, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
- Nice job! I also like your edit summaries. Thanks for your help and all the best, Miniapolis 17:57, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks a lot! Quick question; will copy-editing something from the backlog count towards my total words for this blitz? Or should I just wait for September? Cheers, Vanamonde93 (talk) 15:18, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
- Nice job! I also like your edit summaries. Thanks for your help and all the best, Miniapolis 17:57, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
(←) Sorry, no; the blitz is requests-page only (but the backlog-reduction drive is only a week away :-)). Feel free to choose something from the requests page for the blitz, although I'd steer clear of the GA and FA candidates for now; some requests are for non-GAN and -FAC pages. All the best, Miniapolis 15:45, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
- Ha, thanks, I guessed as much. Taking one that is being prepared for GA, but where the user who submitted it is essentially trying for British English and grammar, which I think I am fine with; it is more complex stuff (like layout) that I think I am weaker on. Cheers, Vanamonde93 (talk) 15:53, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
- Hello again. I had a quick question; so as you must have noticed when you gave me the barnstar for the blitz (Thanks, btw) I finished one article, but left another halfway done. Does that mean that the second article counts toward the september drive word count? The Blitz and the drive had no gap between them, if I understand correctly, so that second article (or the half of it that I've done so far) should count either in one or the other. Cheers, Vanamonde93 (talk) 21:33, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
- First time I've been asked this. Actually, there was 24 hours between the end of the blitz to the start of the drive so I'd say no, but you may want to check on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Coordinators; Jonesey95 and Baffle gab1978, the other GOCE coordinators, may have other opinions. Ordinarily we count sections of articles (if that's all that requires copyediting), but not half-articles. Miniapolis 22:29, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks! Seems a trifle unfair, though, because since I was planning to CE that article in any case, it would seem I have an incentive to delay beginning it, which seems counter-productive.Vanamonde93 (talk) 22:53, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
- Life isn't always fair, and it's hard enough running these drives as it is without the hair-splitting you suggest. Are you in this to improve articles or win a prize? Miniapolis 23:02, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
- Whoa, chill, mate. If I was here for the prize I wouldn't be here at all. I am happy to copy edit just for the sake of improving Wikipedia; all I am saying is that once you offer incentives, they should be offered in a consistent manner. I'm going to drop this issue now, and get back to the Corfu case; I just felt some feedback may be appreciated. Sure, life isn't fair, that isn't a reason not to try and change that. Regards, Vanamonde93 (talk) 03:10, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
- I'm not going to split hairs either, Vanamonde93. If you didn't finish copy-editing the article during the blitz, you can't count it for the blitz. If you finish it during the September drive, do what you think is fair for yourself. – Jonesey95 (talk) 06:14, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
- Whoa, chill, mate. If I was here for the prize I wouldn't be here at all. I am happy to copy edit just for the sake of improving Wikipedia; all I am saying is that once you offer incentives, they should be offered in a consistent manner. I'm going to drop this issue now, and get back to the Corfu case; I just felt some feedback may be appreciated. Sure, life isn't fair, that isn't a reason not to try and change that. Regards, Vanamonde93 (talk) 03:10, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
- Life isn't always fair, and it's hard enough running these drives as it is without the hair-splitting you suggest. Are you in this to improve articles or win a prize? Miniapolis 23:02, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks! Seems a trifle unfair, though, because since I was planning to CE that article in any case, it would seem I have an incentive to delay beginning it, which seems counter-productive.Vanamonde93 (talk) 22:53, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
- First time I've been asked this. Actually, there was 24 hours between the end of the blitz to the start of the drive so I'd say no, but you may want to check on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Coordinators; Jonesey95 and Baffle gab1978, the other GOCE coordinators, may have other opinions. Ordinarily we count sections of articles (if that's all that requires copyediting), but not half-articles. Miniapolis 22:29, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
- Hello again. I had a quick question; so as you must have noticed when you gave me the barnstar for the blitz (Thanks, btw) I finished one article, but left another halfway done. Does that mean that the second article counts toward the september drive word count? The Blitz and the drive had no gap between them, if I understand correctly, so that second article (or the half of it that I've done so far) should count either in one or the other. Cheers, Vanamonde93 (talk) 21:33, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
Greetings again. I have finished copy-editing Corfu Channel case, and I would appreciate it if you gave it a look over. I recognize that it is a long article, so perhaps you cannot do all of it, but some generic feedback would be appreciated. Regards, Vanamonde93 (talk) 06:00, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
- Sure. As soon as I finish the article I'm working on, I'll look at it. However, in future I still think you should focus on the backlog rather than the requests page for now (just until you learn the ropes). All the best, Miniapolis 13:50, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
- It looks very good, and thanks for your help on a long article. You can put {{GOCEtb}} on the requester's talk page (if you haven't already), and I'll archive it. All the best, Miniapolis 15:24, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks! And sure, I'll stick largely to the backlog, especially because there's not many others on the requests page I am interested in. I did notify Mendaliv, and mentioned a couple of "clarify" tags that we could work through.
- It looks very good, and thanks for your help on a long article. You can put {{GOCEtb}} on the requester's talk page (if you haven't already), and I'll archive it. All the best, Miniapolis 15:24, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
- Quick question; when I take an article from the backlog, how do I mark it as taken? Regards, Vanamonde93 (talk) 16:44, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
- I used to use {{GOCEinuse}}, but it would be over-zealously removed (like if I went offline to sleep :-)). Stfg said that he just removes the {{copyedit}} tag, and I've found that it works well. It helps to check the history first; I've occasionally accidentally worked on the same article as another editor (who neither removed the copyedit tag nor added GOCEinuse), but it doesn't happen often. All the best, Miniapolis 17:09, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
- Okay, that makes sense, I'll remove the tag. I didn't want to add {{GOCEinuse}}, because I doubt very much I'll have the motivation to finish one article in a day. Thanks. Vanamonde93 (talk) 18:52, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
- I used to use {{GOCEinuse}}, but it would be over-zealously removed (like if I went offline to sleep :-)). Stfg said that he just removes the {{copyedit}} tag, and I've found that it works well. It helps to check the history first; I've occasionally accidentally worked on the same article as another editor (who neither removed the copyedit tag nor added GOCEinuse), but it doesn't happen often. All the best, Miniapolis 17:09, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
- Quick question; when I take an article from the backlog, how do I mark it as taken? Regards, Vanamonde93 (talk) 16:44, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
Quick question. I appear to have (entirely coincidentally) CEd two "old" articles. Do I update the table myself, or is it automated, or what? Cheers, Vanamonde93 (talk) 05:00, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
- We do our own recordkeeping, in our individual drive-page section and on the leaderboard. All the best, Miniapolis 13:20, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks; that makes it easier. Vanamonde93 (talk) 15:56, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
- Greetings again. Quick MOS question; what is protocol for the name of a magazine (i.e. The New Yorker) when it appears in a section title? Is it still italicized? Vanamonde93 (talk) 05:16, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
- Yes. What are discouraged in section headers are wikilinks. All the best, Miniapolis 13:33, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
- Greetings again. Quick MOS question; what is protocol for the name of a magazine (i.e. The New Yorker) when it appears in a section title? Is it still italicized? Vanamonde93 (talk) 05:16, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks; that makes it easier. Vanamonde93 (talk) 15:56, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
Greetings again. Apologies if this sounds a little self-serving; I Copy-edited a 9k word article, and updated the leaderboard as you asked me to. However, in the confusion of the last few days, my name appears to have been deleted from the "articles over 5k" section. Since the event was closed, I did not wish to correct this myself. Funnily enough, my name is still there in the longest articles section. Regards, Vanamonde93 (talk) 19:56, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
- No problem. I've updated the leaderboard (it's okay to do it yourself), and you're tied for fifth in the 5K-article category with Demiurge10000. All the best, Miniapolis 21:55, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks a lot! Vanamonde93 (talk) 22:02, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
Changing an article title
I restarted the Social practice art page by creating a link from Social Practice but neglected to fix the capitalization (there shouldn't be any for practice and art). Could you fix?--Aichik (talk) 11:11, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) Aichik, one of Miniapolis's talk page stalkers took care of it for you. – Jonesey95 (talk) 12:16, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks, Jonesey. All the best, Miniapolis 13:20, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks guys!--Aichik (talk) 12:44, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
The Signpost: 01 October 2014
- From the editor: The Signpost needs your help
Contributing to the Signpost can be one of the most rewarding things an editor can do.
- Dispatches: Let's get serious about plagiarism
This article was first published in the Signpost in 2009. Written by several long-standing editors, including the late Adrianne Wadewitz, the article was subjected to extensive commentary and ultimately influenced the English Wikipedia's plagiarism guideline. With recent debates about close paraphrasing vis-à-vis plagiarism, we feel that this dispatch retains its relevance and deserves a second airing.
The argument on Wikipedia over the benefits of crowdsourcing versus the primacy of "expert" contributors stretches back to co-founder Larry Sanger's break with the project to start the alternative Citizendium.
- WikiProject report: Animals, farms, forests, USDA? It must be WikiProject Agriculture
This week, the Signpost went down to the farm to have a look at the work of WikiProject Agriculture, which has been in existence since 2007 and has a scope covering crop production, livestock management, aquaculture, dairy farming and forest management.
- Traffic report: Shanah Tovah
Jews wished each other Shanah Tovah ("Good year") this week as Rosh Hashanah was our most popular article. It was also a week not dominated by heavy news and tragedies, so aside from Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (#2, sixth week in the Top 10), our popular article list runs the gamut of current events including new television series Gotham (#3), the 2014 Asian Games (#4), and Reddit-fueled popularity for German director Uwe Boll (#7).
- Featured content: Brothers at War
As the hundred and fiftieth anniversary of the American Civil War draws to a close, the race to improve content continues. The Battle of Franklin, fought on November 30, 1864, will, quite appropriately, be Picture of the Day for November 30, 2014, its 150th anniversary. If you want to help commemorate the American Civil War, why not help out at the Military History WikiProject's Operation Brothers at War. Or help out with the World War I centennial, just starting up, Operation Great War Centennial.
A kitten for you!
Thanks for the copyedit on AKB48. It looks really good now!
AngusWOOF (talk) 20:16, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
- Thank you for the kind words. I'd say the article is now B-class, and depending on the sources it may be ready for a GAN. All the best, Miniapolis 20:26, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
The Signpost: 08 October 2014
- In the media: Opposition research firm blocked; Australian bushfires
Also, Wikimedia Norge and Nobel Peace Center edit-a-thon
- Featured content: From a wordless novel to a coat of arms via New York City
2 Featured articles, 4 Featured lists, 62 Featured pictures, and 2 Featured portals were promoted.
- Traffic report: Panic and denial
The first case of the Ebola virus on US shores sent people into a tizzy, rushing to their keyboards to try and learn what they could.
- Technology report: HHVM is the greatest thing since sliced bread
No seriously, it is.
A barnstar for you!
| The Writer's Barnstar | |
| You deserve more than a barnstar for your stellar edits to Trigeminal nerve. Thank you! Tom (LT) (talk) 21:21, 11 October 2014 (UTC) |
- Aw, thanks very much. It was a fun challenge! All the best, Miniapolis 22:58, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
GOCE October 2014 newsletter
Guild of Copy Editors October 2014 newsletter is now ready for review. Highlights:
– Your project coordinators: Jonesey95, Baffle gab1978 and Miniapolis. To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list. Newsletter delivered by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:17, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
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The Signpost: 15 October 2014
- Op-ed: Ships—sexist or sexy?
Why does Wikipedia still use the gendered pronouns "she" and "her" for ships?
Ben Koo of the sports blog Awful Announcing investigated how player Joe Streater's name became involved in recent years with a historic sports scandal.
- Arbitration report: One case closed and two opened
The Banning Policy case was closed on 12 October. Arbcom affirmed that users have "considerable leeway" in terms of how their talk pages are managed.
- Featured content: Bells ring out at the Temple of the Dragon at Peace
Nine articles and twenty-six pictures were promoted to featured status on the English Wikipedia.
- Technology report: Attempting to parse wikitext
This week we sat down with The Earwig to learn about his wikitext parser.
- Traffic report: Now introducing ... mobile data
We are pleased to report that the WP:5000 has now been updated to include mobile views, including a column reflecting the percentage of views coming from mobile devices.
- WikiProject report: Signpost reaches the Midwest
Today, it's the turn of WikiProject Ohio to give us an interview probing deep into of how they manage to run a project covering one fiftieth of the United States, and the workings of how they manufacture their successes and other articles.
The Signpost: 22 October 2014
- Featured content: Admiral on deck: a modern Ada Lovelace
Four articles, four lists, and fifty-three pictures were promoted to featured status.
Our op-ed writer this week opines that the organization of Hong Kong's "Umbrella Revolution" resembles how Wikipedia is organized.
Among many newsworthy stories this week, the Signpost notes the passing of Italian Wikipedia administrator and former Wikimedia Italia treasurer [Cotton
- Traffic report: Death, War, Pestilence... Movies and TV
Ebola, movies and television articles appear in this week's top ten.
- WikiProject report: De-orphanning articles—a huge task but with a huge team of volunteers to help
PaintedCarpet explains that "WikiProject Orphanage aims to connect all Wikipedia pages, so that pages can be found and read more easily."