Talk:WTKR

1994-95 Logo

I would love to see this rarely seen 1994-95 logo.

I saw a tape with the logo... it was blue with "TV" in green and "3" in white, very thin font. Very ugly. Ntropolis 21:07, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

I saw it on a tape as well, but the quality on mine probably isn't as good. I can upload it if I get a capture device.

WAVY 10 20:25, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks to Channel 82, it's up.

WAVY 10 16:25, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Succession box

Is this really needed? It's the same old station anyways, just they had to change calls in 1981 because of newspaper/television/radio ownership rules. Ntropolis 22:31, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Tal White

Is he still there? WAVY 10 17:56, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

The Early Show

I noticed this morning that 'TKR didn't air the first hour of CBS' The Early Show. WAVY 10 19:08, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Logo

Someone please email the station and ask for the revised logo.Ntropolis 01:41, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi, will the logo that I uploaded work? - Flatsky 01:54, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

That'll work for now, better than the screencap even though it isn't the one they use on-air (that one is the one in the TMZ on TV ad that appears on their website). Logos with a regular white background work best. Ntropolis 20:17, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

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GA review

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Nominator: Sammi Brie (talk · contribs) 17:05, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

Reviewer: Rollinginhisgrave (talk · contribs) 16:46, 5 July 2025 (UTC)

Hey Sammi, it's been a while since I've reviewed one of yours. I'll take this article.

Prose and content

• Consider linking coaxial cable. Maypole seems to be a bad link.
  • No, it's intended. From source, A slender young blonde with hair pulled back severely from a pretty, chiseled face and puffing into curls on her neck was crown [sic] "Miss WTAR-TV" today as the runners-up attended her court and the 36 other May Day contestants danced around the Maypole in her honor.
    • Ah. Maybe gloss this, as I was unfamiliar with the concept of the maypole and just skimmed over this initially thinking it was an industry term. - RIHG
• The dispute ended in 1979 with a commitment by Landmark to sell the television station by 1981. Knight-Ridder acquired the station that year Can you clarify what "that year" is here?
• Can you introduce Hampton Roads in the body earlier?
• The Hampton Roads Television application came at a time when incumbent broadcasters in other markets were facing competing "strike" applications for their channels. Can this sentence be cut down into "At the time, several incumbent broadcasters in markets across [region] were facing..."? Quite a bit more concise.
• Landmark entered into an agreement with Knight-Ridder to purchase the station for $48.3 million, which was higher than what Landmark was reportedly seeking for the stations. Can you clarify the singular/plural distinction here?
  • As with Narragansett put the two stations on the market in late 1994... The New York Times Company acquired the station in 1995
  • That's an error in 1980 and has been fixed but intended in 1994–1995. Narragansett ended up selling WTKR and WPRI-TV separately, though both were put up for sale at the same time.
• citing his firm's "fiduciary responsibility" to its stakeholders I believe individuals or classes of individuals hold fiduciary responsibilities, not firms at large.
  • Reworded with a direct quote.

Suggestion

• Definitely not part of the GACR, but I see in #Notable former on-air staff you have space ndash nbsp. You may just want to use {{sndash}}.
  • This is something I'll keep in mind in the future as these kinds of lists are common in the field.
• Add Template:As of for "now correspondent for PBS NewsHour", as I doubt you're going to be tracking this to keep it up to date.
  • That is actually something I've lately been trying to excise from improved articles, but I hadn't hit this one yet. (That's why these people have articles where this information is more likely to be up to date.) I junked all the "later..." and "now..."
• When you archive stuff like The Washington Post, I'll suggest you do it through archive.today instead of archive.org, as looking at Tribune Terminates $3.9 Billion Merger With Rival Sinclair, I can read it on archive.today but not on archive.org.
  • I use IABot generally, so I'm not sure how to go through and use a secondary archiver beyond the IA for specific sites. Thanks for the tip.

Sources

• to commemorate the 25th anniversary of WTAR radio Letting you know this isn't in the clipping
  • The page had other content on it that I'd clipped but not used. One more ref was sufficient to fix that.
• May I ask how you're accessing "Broadcast Bureau wants more delay in FCC renewal of WTAR-TV license"? It's not coming up through TWL for me.
  • While I handle all of these, I have an institutional ProQuest access that contains a database TWL does not offer, the Entertainment Industry Magazine Archive. Broadcasting is available from a shadow library, but I don't add new links to it (I only use it in cases like this for source verification to help reviewers at DYK and GA, like here).

Spot check from this revision:

• [10] Y
• [20] N Not seeing verification of weather delays.
  • Removed from article.
• [30] clock Can you quote for me, or point out where I can access this text?
  • Y
• [40][41] Y
• [50] Y
• [60] Y
• [71] clock Can you quote for me?
  • At the time, he was reporting sports on television for WTKR in Norfolk, waiting for the big break to come along. Twelve years ago, Rathbun broke into baseball on the Triple A level as the Tidewater Tides' play-by-play man. Since then, he has auditioned for major league jobs with Baltimore, Pittsburgh and the New York Mets. Always, Rathbun was told, "Don't call us, we'll call you." This time, the Tigers called. They've put him in the booth as color man and sidekick to Rick Rizzs. Rathbun also does play-by-play in the third, fourth and seventh innings. Y
• [81] Y
• [90] clock I'm a bit confused by how you get these numbers. Why don't you include the 5am broadcast? Or the "News 3 This Morning" broadcast?
  • Those are simulcast with WTKR. I only listed the ones WTKR does not carry in that specific area. (Take the WTKR list and subtract those from the WGNT list.)
    • Maybe leave a note in the ref to this effect, or an efn. - RIHG
• [101] N This needs page numbers, and I am really unsure how this verifies The station discontinued regular programming on its analog signal on June 12, 2009
  • Added a ref here to cover the June 12 piece. The Analog to Digital ref is a standardized ref used in hundreds of station pages, so it doesn't usually get page numbers. Y

Other

• Images tagged/captioned Y
• Neutral Y
• Broad / not too detailed Y Giving this a tick, but I have some concerns over the practice of piecing together a history from primary sources, especially per WP:PSTS: Wikipedia articles should be based on reliable, published secondary sources
• No OR/COPYVIO Y Nothing seen in the spotcheck, and a comfortable 3.8% in earwig.
• Stable Y

Looking good! Over to you. Rollinginhisgrave (talk | contributions) 16:46, 5 July 2025 (UTC)

I've responded to pretty much everything here, @Rollinginhisgrave. I'd like to make a comment on the sourcing mix, since this sometimes comes up even though I've taken these types of articles to FA on multiple occasions. I find that the books available on local broadcasting aren't always additive, and you have to be lucky to have one available to cover a specific market. I don't have one for this market, for instance. Even where I do have one (there's a book on broadcasting history in Arkansas and another on Kentucky), I've found that it's very much sourced to newspapers.

In many cases, I feel like the papers-and-trades sourcing mix I have results in quality articles and that the end product tends to look like the books that should have been written in the first place. Sammi Brie (she/her · t · c) 19:38, 5 July 2025 (UTC)

Yeah. I understand you've put a few of these through FAC which have been approved, so I'm not going to push back at the GAN level. To some extent it may reflect philosophical differences, and I'm also reluctant to push back as your articles just... are legitimately good.

But, I do think that it's pretty clear contemporary news cannot ascertain whether a fact is or isn't important without the benefit of hindsight. And I think this article goes too deep into "this was announced on this date by..." at times, which I don't see in articles built from secondary sourcing, because what's important is that something happened. And if secondary sources aren't talking about the history of a station... per BALASP we really shouldn't be writing one. We are trying to summarize a history in sources, not write one from them.

As I said, I'm not going to let my thoughts on this get in the way of promotion. Which I will do now, as I'm sure you can do as you see fit with my final comments above. If you want to respond to my comment here, you can just respond here or on my talk (I'm not trying to get the last word in by passing!) Rollinginhisgrave (talk | contributions) 03:04, 6 July 2025 (UTC)

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Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by SonOfYoutubers talk 00:39, 31 July 2025 (UTC)

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• ... that a Virginia TV station broadcast an all-Black variety show on its first day in 1950? Source: https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-virginian-pilot-todays-the-day-wta/133122434/
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Yemane Negassi

Improved to Good Article status by Sammi Brie (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 782 past nominations.

Sammi Brie (she/her · t · c) 22:32, 6 July 2025 (UTC).

• recent GA. Article length and referencing is adequate with no copyvio detected. Factoid verified in the newspaper source after some squinting. It's interesting enough so good to go. Juxlos (talk) 04:45, 7 July 2025 (UTC)