We want a good administrator....

There's much that hasn't been posted, but clearly college has started for Roe and I so we have some other priorities! I'm not formatting now because I have to get to class in less than an hour!!

2782. UNTITLED
by EYECYOU, 1/20/04 9:03 ET
I AM NOT A HILL GRADUATE, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ON WHAT IS BEING SAID. STATEN ISLAND IS KNOWN FOR TREATING KIDS UNFAIRLY BECAUSE OF THERE SOCIOECONOMIC STATUS. MONEY HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH PROBABLY HILL AND EVERYOTHER CATHOLIC SCHOOL ON STATEN ISLAND. IT IS KNOWN THAT IF YOU DONATE TO THE SCHOOL YOUR CHILDREN WILL BE TREATED DIFFERENTLY WHETHER THEY ARE BEHAVIOR PROBLEMS, BULLY'S OR WHATEVER. MOST SCHOOLS EVEN LIST HOW MUCH MONEY YOU DONATE. THAT MAKES PEOPLE WHO MAY WANT TO DONATE BUT ARE FINANCIALLY UNABLE FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE. I ALWAYS THOUGHT HILL HAD A GOOD REPUTATION, BUT WHEN I WENT TO THEIR OPEN HOUSE WITH MY DAUGHTER THIS PAST YEAR, I SENSED THAT SHE WOULDN'T FIT IN THERE. THAT SCHOOL MADE ME FEEL THAT IF YOU HAD BUCKS YOU WERE IN, WHETHER OR NOT YOU EVEN PASSED THE COOP. SO THOSE OF YOU THAT THINK MONEY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HOW STUDENTS ARE TREATEDARE DEFINITELY VERY NARROWMINDED. IT IS A SHAME HOW MONEY CONTROLS WHAT SCHOOL YOU CAN GO TO, WHAT SPORT YOU CAN PLAY,ETC. STATEN ISLAND IS THE EPITOMY OF UNFAIRNESS. IT WOULD BE NICE IF ANY PARENT COULD FIND A DECENT HIGH SCHOOL ON SI WITHOUT WORRYING ABOUT HOW YOUR DAUGHTER WOULD BE TREATED IF THEY DON'T HAVE A COACH BAG OR PARENTS DRIVE A MERCEDES.

2782.1. To Eyecyou
by MotherofTwo, 1/20/04 10:09 ET
Re: UNTITLED by EYECYOU, 1/20/04
You are correct to a point. I don't think it's any different anywhere else, it's just that SI is not as big as other places so more things are out in the open.My daughter went to Moore, and found it was least clicky of the group. Hill is definitely the way you described and has been for over 35 years. I know because my husband's family all went there and suffered.

2782.2. Not just Hill
by Betcha, 1/20/04 14:23 ET
Re: UNTITLED by EYECYOU, 1/20/04
but the entire island, public & private. It is a sign of times, because affluence run amuck out here. It always existed but so many people had so much less, and it was expected and was part of our existence. It saddens me to know that there is no safe haven just the best of all evils. My child is entering high school in Sept. I'm still undecided, and would rather go public then private, not because of the money but I have my own issues with religion, and the hypocricy of the situation. I hope that this new admns gives new hope and brings some morality back to us and our kids. It's like swimming against the tide and never getting anywhere fast.

2782.2.1. Eyecyou
by Augur, 1/20/04 18:57 ET
Re: UNTITLED by EYECYOU, 1/20/04
HS is what you make of it. My daughter attends Hill and we are far from "affluent" or "in the money". Hill was the best choice for her. I drive an old vehicle and have never owned a Coach bag. So much for stereotypes! My daughter has many good close friends who are "affluent" and whose moms do carry Coach bags and drive the "fancy trucks". These girls attend Sea, Tech, Villa and ND. Please don't generalize although it's nice to have people think I'm rich because my daughter attends Hill!

2782.2.1. Eyecyou
by Augur, 1/20/04 18:57 ET
Re: UNTITLED by EYECYOU, 1/20/04
HS is what you make of it. My daughter attends Hill and we are far from "affluent" or "in the money". Hill was the best choice for her. I drive an old vehicle and have never owned a Coach bag. So much for stereotypes! My daughter has many good close friends who are "affluent" and whose moms do carry Coach bags and drive the "fancy trucks". These girls attend Sea, Tech, Villa and ND. Please don't generalize although it's nice to have people think I'm rich because my daughter attends Hill!

2782.2.1.1.1. iluvny
by EYECYOU, 1/21/04 8:34 ET
Re: UNTITLED by EYECYOU, 1/21/04
If you went to Hill, how come you can't spell the designer bag you listed. Look it up then comment.

2782.2.1.1.1.1. EYECYOU
by MmmPotRoast, 1/21/04 8:41 ET
Re: UNTITLED by EYECYOU, 1/21/04
Hill isn't so far gone that it uses designer names as its spelling words. Come now EYECYOU, being bitter and defensive helps no one

2782.2.1.1.1.2. possibly because she doesn't OWN one?
by ladyvikin08, 1/21/04 8:49 ET
Re: UNTITLED by EYECYOU, 1/21/04

2782.2.1.1.1.3. that was what...
by iluvny, 1/21/04 11:28 ET
Re: UNTITLED by EYECYOU, 1/21/04
the "(sp?)" was for. it meant i wasn't sure. as someone already commented maybe i dont know how to spell it because (a) i dont own one and (b) that wasnt what we learned how to spell at Hill. i graduated Hill with honors and am currently on the Dean's List at my college...just because i dont know how to spell the name of that bag doesnt mean i am dumb. perhaps you own one and you can tell us the correct spelling?

2782.3. not only in HS.
by 1234kids, 1/21/04 8:42 ET
Re: UNTITLED by EYECYOU, 1/21/04
unfortunatly, first - its not only in catholic school; but since you were speaking of CS, its sad that even in elementary CS it happens to be the same way. you can pinpoint a "donator's" kid out in any crowd! from the special attention in school to who's in the 7th grade and still gets to get on the bus. sad, but true; makes you sick though, dont it? its horrible that parents teach their kids at such an early age that money DOES buy everything - but what happens when that money runs out?

2782.3.1. Mommy and Daddy
by ladyvikin08, 1/21/04 8:51 ET
Re: UNTITLED by EYECYOU, 1/21/04
will have to take away the cell phone, pager, and from their hs kids, the car.

2782.4. Everyone is different
by TorontoGirl, 1/21/04 10:38 ET
Re: UNTITLED by EYECYOU, 1/21/04
I have to be honest here.. these attitudes where money is playing a factor in how girls are treated at Hill, or any other high school for that matter are all being handed down from their elders. These problems exist everywhere, not just in Hill. Staten Island happens to be very very difficult for people who don't "fit in" for whatever reason, money is nothing more than another means of judging someone. I went to Hill for four years and I never drove a nice brand new fancy car, I didn't have clothes from Banana Republic, or even the Gap. But I got along just fine. To be honest, on our open house visits, I felt far more comfortable in the Hill environment than I did in the atmosphere at Notre Dame, which is originally where I wanted to go. The last three years while I worked in the mall as a manager in one of the stores, I was treated far worse than I ever was at Hill and the problem came from the fact that people look down on others they feel are "below them" simply because of what they do or wear. I saw 14 and 15 year old girls walking around with Coach and Gucci bags who sneered at people and made rude comments about people's clothing and that's where the problem is. It's not in how Administrations treat the girls, it's how the parents bring them up. When parents let children believe the world owes them something because their faimly happens to have money, no amount of refusal to appease these people by a school's Administration is going to chage their mind. So let's place the blame where the blame belongs. I am by no means advocating schools offering preferential treatment to students with money, but the initial cause of the problem lies with the way parents are raising their children on Staten Island.

2782.4.1. very well said!
by ladyvikin08, 1/21/04 10:43 ET
Re: UNTITLED by EYECYOU, 1/21/04

2782.4.2. Exactly...
by iluvny, 1/21/04 11:31 ET
Re: UNTITLED by EYECYOU, 1/21/04
as the saying goes the apple doesnt fall far from the tree!

2782.4.2.1. Sad, but true!!
by voltage1, 1/21/04 12:55 ET
Re: UNTITLED by EYECYOU, 1/21/04
I know quite a few parents that are not affluent, yet buy their "label conscience" five and six year olds Coach bags and have a minimum of thirty presents under their X-mas tree for them to open!! Unfortunately for the rest of us, these little "angels" will grow up to be the obnoxious carbon copies of their parents who drive down Hylan Blvd at 65 mph and cut us off from the right lane while making a left turn.

2782.5. Not the schools fault...
by nycroenyr, 1/21/04 20:46 ET
Re: UNTITLED by EYECYOU, 1/21/04
My family has enough money that I don't have to pay for my car, cellular phone, or clothes. BUT I DO. The NUMBER ONE problem in Staten Island (and I'm sure it's not only the Island)is the way some parents are raising their kids. If you hand everything to your children on a silver platter and you don't teach them right or wrong, you are going to raise spoiled brats. Yes, there were many like that at Hill, but that can be seen in any school. We should worry more about how we are raising our kids.

2782.6. best answer is....
by Chaosaugur, 1/21/04 23:22 ET
Re: UNTITLED by EYECYOU, 1/21/04
personal responcability. remeber that no one is a villian in their own mind! So parents of those who behave like they are owed a throne, have more than likely been shown that @ home. Schools can only do so much. If the admin of a school choose to have royality treatments for "a select few" my guess is that the reputation of the school will eventually show that. Our daughter goes to Hill, it is one of the best education process that she could experience. She has excelled in all of her studies, as well as in her "extra scholastic activities". Yes there are those exclusive groups there, but so goes life. The school makes a true attempt at addressing this, with jrs & srs haveing freshman "sisters" @ the start of school. Does it help? I don't know if it "cures" the issue, but it is an attempt to address the issue. Our daughter also chose Hill, which makes a difference. If we "sent" her to another school would she be doing as well? i'm sure she would. But would she be as happy and getting everything out of the school experience she is now? I doubt it very much.

2782.7. WRONG on all counts...
by IAmMyKidsMom, 1/22/04 6:12 ET
Re: UNTITLED by EYECYOU, 1/22/04
I have two at Hill; I don't have money, and am not able to make big donations to anything...My daughters both excel academically and socially and have been chosen as leaders in many extracurricular things. I have seen a few girls from families with big money be asked to leave due to behavior. Speak of what you know.

2782.8. Future Hilltoppers:
by IAmMyKidsMom, 1/22/04 6:14 ET
Re: UNTITLED by EYECYOU, 1/22/04
Don't listen to the drivel on this forum about Hill. Most of the people talking about the school on this forum have no firsthand knowledge of it.

2782.8.1. designer bag bigot
by druid17, 1/22/04 8:19 ET
Re: UNTITLED by EYECYOU, 1/22/04
Hey designer bag bigot, get a LIFE. NOBODY with any degree of intelligence gives a damn about the spelling of some overprices crap.

2782.8.2. Oh of course...
by 2002hillGrad, 1/22/04 8:26 ET
Re: UNTITLED by EYECYOU, 1/22/04
We just claim in horribly spelled e-mails that we send our daughters there and they're very happy thankyouverymuch. It's not like we graduated a few years ago or anything...

I'll have you know that my parents were always thrilled with Hill and thought I was too. Though I told them repeatedly that I disliked it the message didn't sink in until too late. Maybe your daughters are trying to do the same and you're too caught up in your own little world of Hill-love to realize?

2782.8.2.1. My apologies...
by 2002hillGrad, 1/22/04 8:34 ET
Re: UNTITLED by EYECYOU, 1/22/04
Can you edit posts here? Yours seems to have been edited, as it no longer seems to have as many gross spelling errors as before. Or perhaps I had you mixed up with yet another so called parent who claims to send their children to Hill as their basis for judgement. And I meant post, not e-mail.

2779. Mother of Two
by hillgrad73, 1/19/04 14:09 ET
My mother worked hard and made many sacrifices to send me to Hill's grammer school and high school. We were no were near being " In the money". I take great offense to your statement. I did not have a hard time at Hill in the 13 years I was there because of my families monetary status. This was also true of many of the girls in my class. Hill was and still is an excellent school. Things have changed over the years but what doesn't. Yes many of my classmates families were "In the Money" but neverdid they make myself or anyone feel left out because of monetary differences. All schools have cliques no matter if they are private or public. There are always the "THe Popular Girls" and the no so "Popular Girls in any school which has nothing to do with having money or not having money. Your High School experience depends on what you put into it and if you go the extra mile. Hill is an excellent Private School and I too am VERY Proud to be a graduate. And throughly enjoyed my 13 years there.

2779.1. Untitled
by MmmPotRoast, 1/19/04 16:39 ET
Re: Mother of Two by hillgrad73, 1/19/04
This of course neglects the fact that the problem wasn't with the students who were "in the money", but with the fact that they were favored greatly by the administration, particularly by the most recent one. A girl who wasn't "in the money" wouldn't have forgery suspensions wiped from her record as was done for a rich student during my sophomore year.

2779.1.1. new principal
by juds, 1/19/04 21:29 ET
Re: Mother of Two by hillgrad73, 1/19/04
I like the suggestion of Mrs wondoloski.she is very active in the federation. She has the most respect for her students.Felicia would be and excellent choice she has spirit of what hill should be and what is was and where it should be.the former sr. clare aka "sr.clarissa". Was a little to flakey for a choice as principal.I hold the value and tradition of the hill. Charlote was the insitution and she did leave an impression. although i spent a good part of my senior year "cleanning the office" she really was a nice woman. I have good friends still from hill. my favorite teachers were albert and josita. '72

2779.1.1.1. Not sure...
by iluvny, 1/19/04 23:04 ET
Re: Mother of Two by hillgrad73, 1/19/04
who you are or how you know Wondolowski but it doesnt seem that you know much about the environment she too created for the students of the school. i am almost certain that her appointment as principal would just bring down the school and everything that it has stood for for decades. i pray for the sake of the present students of the school as well as future students that she does not become principal. she is one of those people that would become severely dangerous and utterly out of hand with that sort of power because that is the only thing she would be concerned with...power. sure she is strict but certainly not in the correct manner. besides aren't there some sort of education standards that have to be met in order to become a principal. not sure what kind of schooling she has but i cant imagine her as principal of a school...especially one as prestigious as Hill. i am a proud graduate but i will not blindly support the things going on in the school and i am not afraid to tell the truth of what went on when i was there. for the sake of all the girls...i hope to God that Wondolowski does not become principal. trust me...it would be a disaster waiting to happen.

2779.1.1.1.1. I don't believe...
by 2002hillGrad, 1/19/04 23:31 ET
Re: Mother of Two by hillgrad73, 1/19/04
...I could have said it better myself. Yes, PHILITA Wondolowski has a great deal of experience leading Hill in an administrative capacity, but this was essentially not in her job description. Rather, it was something she took upon herself in the power vacuum created by an incapable administration. In addition to her post as the "Dean of Students" she took under her ample wings the Hilltopper Yearbook and now, if the website is to be believed, the National Honor Society. As a member of her Hilltopper staff I can safely say that working under her was unpleasant and, at times, degrading. I can not conceive of Mrs. Molluzzo giving up her position as moderator of the NHS, as she is one of the most involved and caring teachers at the school. I can't help but see it as another of Mrs. Wondolowski's bids for power. Now the fate of the girls in attendance already lies solely in her hands; she controls their disciplinary records and they cannot recieve national recognition for their achievments without her consent.

I truly can't think of a more devestating choice for the future of Hill.

2779.2. Untitled
by hillgrad73, 1/19/04 16:54 ET
Re: Mother of Two by hillgrad73, 1/19/04
Yes as I read the posts I realize there was a problem with students being treated according to their parents monetary status. That is unacceptable.In the Mother of Two post she referred to student cliques due to monetary status. This is what I was responding too. I also had heard from reliable souces close to the matter that not all students were treated alike due to monetary status.

2766.3. Mean spirited AND incorrect...
by IAmMyKidsMom

OK this is the time for planning, let's not be caught unprepared.

If you would be opposed to the appointment of Philita Wondolowski to the position of principal of St. Joseph Hill Academy and would be willing to put your name on that complaint (a particular problem when you're dealing with a population that has been raised to fear retribution if their ideas go against the norm, such as the population found at St. Joseph Hill), then leave a comment!

We're trying to get together enough people to write letters to the Editor of the Staten Island Advance in the event that such an appointment does occur. Please, legitimate, intelligent complaints only. We wish to come off as reasonable, educated young women with the best interests of their High School at heart. If you can only manage tirades then please, don't respond.

I also repsonded to this... and apparently caused a problem. :)
2774.1.2.1. perhaps
by ladyvikin08, 1/18/04 8:40 ET

Re: HAD TO CHANGE NAMES AGAIN by DELLETEAGAIN, 1/18/04
it's because your posts are not in keeping with the spirit of the forum, which I thought was to pass along information about schools, allow posters to ask questions pertaining to classwork, etc, not to post gossip and disputes which very clearly pertain to one school and should be handled within the confines of that school, where accusations of wrongdoing can either be proved or disproved with evidence. Those of us who read posts on this forum have been following this soap opera for a while, and hearing the same accusations over and over again without any sense of resolution is boring. If there is a problem in your school, do something about it besides posting on this forum.

2774.1.2.1.2. Can't do something about it...
by nycroenyr, 1/18/04 12:08 ET
Re: HAD TO CHANGE NAMES AGAIN by DELLETEAGAIN, 1/18/04
I think this is a very good indication that these students can't "do anything about it." If they could just voice their opinions or try to make amends in their school, they wouldn't have to post here. They are obviously reaching out to people on this forum who SHOULD have sympathy, but they obviously aren't getting much help.
2774.1.2.1.2.1. these aren't students
by ladyvikin08, 1/18/04 12:24 ET
Re: HAD TO CHANGE NAMES AGAIN by DELLETEAGAIN, 1/18/04
these are parents, who for whatever reason uses this forum to air the issues in their PTA, but are afraid to speak up at a PTA meeting. Perhaps they are hoping that a network will read their post and do an investigation of it.

2774.1.2.1.2.1.1. Please tell us, lady
by AParent, 1/18/04 13:02 ET
Re: HAD TO CHANGE NAMES AGAIN by DELLETEAGAIN, 1/18/04
how you handle things when you have a problem with your kid's school.
2774.1.2.1.2.1.1.1. if it's with the PTA, as it appears on here
by ladyvikin08

This particular selection of posts has remained up for a miraculously long period of time. Perhaps the powers that be decided they could make more of a point by making those who accuse them of censorship look like idiots by not censoring them.

2774. HAD TO CHANGE NAMES AGAIN
by DELLETEAGAIN, 1/17/04 19:22 ET
I WAS HOWUDOTHAT, THEN DELETAGAIN THEN DELETEAGAIN THEN DELLETEAGAIN. THEY KEEP CENSORING MY POSTS ABOUT FREEDOM OF SPEECH AND DELETIONS.My post was deleted as well. Deleting has gone too far. Nothing inappropriate was said and no names mentioned. Why should it have been deleted??? My time is as valuable as anybody else's and I would like to think it is not wasted writing my opinion or thoughts. I have as much right as anybody else to state my thoughts and why should it bother anybody so much that they feel the need to waste their time deleting it. well that being said, I have copied this post so I can repost as many times necessary to have it stay and not have to keep rewriting. That shouldn't bother anybody normal. Deletions are disgusting and should NOT be permitted when somebody is just stating a point that SOMEBODY disagrees with. Now big brother won't even let me use 2 names I have created and I had to make up this one. Oh yes, freedom at it's best. First I was howudothat, then deletagain now deleteagain. I can't even speak my mind without them not only censoring my words but my name too. That is just terrible. People complain on this forum about everything whether it's petty or not, to some people it's important and EVERBODY should have a right to state an opinion.

2774.1. Don't you think that perhaps ENOUGH
by ladyvikin08, 1/17/04 19:50 ET
Re: HAD TO CHANGE NAMES AGAIN by DELLETEAGAIN, 1/17/04
people have seen your post and read your point and are now SICK AND TIRED of it? MOVE ON! You're not the only one whose posts get deleted on here, it happens, so deal with it!

2774.1.1. Just because it happens all the time...
by MmmPotRoast, 1/17/04 19:54 ET
Re: HAD TO CHANGE NAMES AGAIN by DELLETEAGAIN, 1/17/04
...doesn't make it right.

2774.1.2. HEY Lady
by DELLETEAGAIN, 1/17/04 20:42 ET
Re: HAD TO CHANGE NAMES AGAIN by DELLETEAGAIN, 1/17/04
I hope you are as SICK and TIRED of this as I am!!!

2774.1.2.1. perhaps
by ladyvikin08, 1/18/04 8:40 ET
Re: HAD TO CHANGE NAMES AGAIN by DELLETEAGAIN, 1/18/04
it's because your posts are not in keeping with the spirit of the forum, which I thought was to pass along information about schools, allow posters to ask questions pertaining to classwork, etc, not to post gossip and disputes which very clearly pertain to one school and should be handled within the confines of that school, where accusations of wrongdoing can either be proved or disproved with evidence. Those of us who read posts on this forum have been following this soap opera for a while, and hearing the same accusations over and over again without any sense of resolution is boring. If there is a problem in your school, do something about it besides posting on this forum.

2774.1.2.1.1. No one...
by 2002hillGrad, 1/18/04 10:08 ET
Re: HAD TO CHANGE NAMES AGAIN by DELLETEAGAIN, 1/18/04
...is making you open the messages and read them. I can't imagine that it's *that* galling just for you to see the subject headings on the message board. If it is, I'm afraid I can't help you.

2774.1.3. That's a horrible attitude
by 2and2, 1/18/04 8:25 ET
Re: HAD TO CHANGE NAMES AGAIN by DELLETEAGAIN, 1/18/04
If you don't want to read her post then skip it, she titles it the same every time. We shouldn't have to "deal with it" Deletions for no apparant reason are wrong. With the attitude you have you may as well live in a communist country. There are things such as freedoms, and freedom of speech is one of them. You may not like what someone has to say but they have every right to say it without being censored.

2774.2. Slander
by VAcollegiate, 1/17/04 20:17 ET
Re: HAD TO CHANGE NAMES AGAIN by DELLETEAGAIN, 1/17/04
I hear you. I've said it myself and been censored. Clearly saying that SILive is wrong in some way is perceived as slander by those who do not think themselves incorrect.

2774.2.1. deleted
by meme321, 1/17/04 22:52 ET
Re: HAD TO CHANGE NAMES AGAIN by DELLETEAGAIN, 1/17/04
i have been deleted many times.....

This time, I'm posting as myself. I don't care who finds out and what not. It's very very sad. I responded to OllyOlly and it got removed, of course. In a brief recap (I of course didn't save it)-
- It is CRAZY that a full thread was deleted. The purpose of having a forum is for open discussion. JUST BECAUSE somebody mentioned something that was against OllyOlly, does not mean that in any way it was offensive or obscene. It should be saved therefore. The last time I checked, I live in a democracy. In that democracy, I'm given a freedom of speech that you cannot take away from me.
- Don't call me stupid or incompetent just because my view differs from yours. St. Joseph Hill does not allow for independent thinking. Obviously neither does this forum. That's what's so wrong with this forum and obviously the administration under Marie Claire.
Here's another one of my posts.
2766.2.1. Remember them, always...
by nycroenyr

THIS THREAD DELETED

2774. My response must have been deleted by accident
by deleteagain, 1/17/04 11:28 ET
My post was deleted as well. Deleting has gone too far. Nothing inappropriate was said and no names mentioned. Why should it have been deleted??? My time is as valuable as anybody else's and I would like to think it is not wasted writing my opinion or thoughts. I have as much right as anybody else to state my thoughts and why should it bother anybody so much that they feel the need to waste their time deleting it. well that being said, I have copied this post so I can repost as many times necessary to have it stay and not have to keep rewriting. That shouldn't bother anybody normal. Deletions are disgusting and should NOT be permitted when somebody is just stating a point that SOMEBODY disagrees with. Now big brother won't even let me use 2 names I have created and I had to make up this one. Oh yes, freedom at it's best. First I was howudothat, then deletagain now deleteagain. I can't even speak my mind without them not only censoring my words but my name too. That is just terrible. People complain on this forum about everything whether it's petty or not, to some people it's important and EVERBODY should have a right to state an opinion.

2774.1. No, I don't think so. They don't delete by accident.
by OToole45, 1/17/04 15:16 ET
Re: My response must have been deleted by accident by deleteagain, 1/17/04

2774.2. Agreed...
by VAdarling, 1/17/04 15:31 ET
Re: My response must have been deleted by accident by deleteagain, 1/17/04
I often wonder why it's only certain viewpoints that get deleted while others are permitted to stay. It seems to me that if you disagree with something you respond and say so. You own up to your words and don't go the cowardly route.

Still, censorship has long been the accepted route on this forum. Save the things you post... we all learn from our mistakes. I have a livejournal community for mine (link in profile) so that I can post them again and others who find the community will be able to respond there.

The censorship is wrong, but it is the way of the powers that be for being sure this forum isn't controversial in any way. Remember, you're on Staten Island and everyone is Catholic, Republican, and has fake nails. :) Differ? Than you will have to leave the borough ;)

2774.2.1. Couldn't have said it better!
by Betcha, 1/17/04 15:39 ET
Re: My response must have been deleted by accident by deleteagain, 1/17/04

2774. Sr. Marie Clair at St. Joseph Hill
by TheGoldLady, 1/16/04 22:37 ET
It is such a relief that this person has removed herself, or whatever the story may be, from St. Joseph Hill. I was a student who attended school there during the changeover from Sr. Charlotte to Marie Clair. School was great, the rules were clear. You knew where you stood. Then Marie Clair came into the picture. From that very first day she stepped onto the school grounds, life changed for everyone. She would become enraged over (what I felt) were minor things. She made important decisions spontaneously that had very serious consequences such as on student scheduling, school days off, people's livlihoods, etc. She fired a teacher once in such an unprofessional manner it was shocking that the behavior came from a nun. I saw this as a kid, mind you, and I'm still trying to come to terms with it. The school remained blind to her bizarre and, frankly, weird demeanor. I should say that the school ACKNOWLEDGED her oddness and quietly disagreed with her reactions and decisions. But the school allowed it to continue and by doing so, condoned her odd behavior. It was terrible to see young women exposed to someone who was supposed to be a dignified leader. On many, many occasions, she would verbally abuse faculty and staff publicly. She used to tell me she was ignoring me on a particular day. I'd ask why. She'd say weird things like, "Because I don't like you." or just "Because." Sometimes she would sing or whistle and NOT EVEN RESPOND when asked over and over, "Sister, are you mad at me for something? Why are you ignoring me?" How did I feel at the time? Ashamed, worthless and extremely helpless. I talked to various office staff about this including the useless guidance counselor. I'll spare their names. They told me not to worry about it, it'll blow over, she's like that. What's that about? Can you imagine if a girl at the school was sexually abused in this environment? Maire Claire would probably punish her and blame her. I mean, why doesn't anybody speak about how horrific this woman was as a principal. She just shouldn't have been around kids. It's progress for the school and way over due.

2774.1. I heard evil things about her
by nycgirl420, 1/16/04 23:39 ET
Re: Sr. Marie Clair at St. Joseph Hill by TheGoldLady, 1/16/04
I am a senior at Moore but my good friend is a senior at hill and she said freshman year she would literally take the girls and put them on there knees and measure there skirts. She would yell at them if the head bands are to big or to small. It is a good school but it was like military style. I chose not to go there for that reason.

2774.1.1. Strict, but missing point
by 2002hillGrad, 1/17/04 0:11 ET
Re: Sr. Marie Clair at St. Joseph Hill by TheGoldLady, 1/17/04
OK, it's strict the rules were ridiculous and often nonsensical...

Let's all just be grateful she's gone and hope that Mrs. Wondolowski isn't going to be the new principal.

2774.2. Fool's Gold
by OllyOlly, 1/16/04 23:55 ET
Re: Sr. Marie Clair at St. Joseph Hill by TheGoldLady, 1/16/04
I don't believe one ounce of that piece of fiction.

Anyone can post on this forum. There is no way to be certain that anyone is who he or she claims to be. I don't believe for one moment that you attended Hill.

The shame of this is that those who have good things to say are too smart to post on this forum.

2774.2.2. OK this one showed up...
by 2002hillGrad, 1/17/04 0:23 ET
Re: Sr. Marie Clair at St. Joseph Hill by TheGoldLady, 1/17/04
...so I feel like I can re-type.

This fabled Hill inteligensia likely doesn't post because it is too busy raising money for the alumni association or perhaps teaching there. (Usually without a graduate degree, but this is not the point.)

The point is that people are going to have differing opinions to yours--get over it. Whether they are intelligent or not is not your descision to make. One could make a very clever arguement about Sr. Marie Claire being the greatest ever or the worst ever, and how convincing those arguements are actually has very little bearing on the truth.

The point is also that there are plenty of other forums for those whom you have deemed to have "intelligent" opinions. These are the accepted channels such as the alumni association. Those of us who either cannot attend their meetings due to reasons of distance or refuse to ever set foot at another Hill function again do not have this option, but may still wish to excercise their rights.

This is a forum that has left up to 50% of our original posts up. Hey, it isn't much, but it's better than the degree of creative freedom allowed with the Hilltopper or Summit!

One more thing I forgot to add kidlets:

We allow for anonymous comments here! So if you either don't want to register for a livejournal or would prefer to be untraceable, then you can still speak out on this forum, provided that you respond to entries that already exist.