Disappointed and angry, not surprised
Sep. 8th, 2021 09:48 pmI cancelled my Guardian (the newspaper) membership today. I've been a supporting member for years, and a reader for...decades, probably? And they do good journalism. But their UK editors are just...incredibly anti-trans. As in, raging TERFs. As in, they cut a whole section on how TERFs ally with fascists (a true actual thing that has happened) in a Judith Butler interview.
There's lots of sources on that, but if anyone's missed it, the interviewer put the cut paragraphs here for free on their Patreon.
And here's a good write-up of what's happened.
I read the interview before it was censored, and thought it was deeply insightful and true, and moving. The way Judith Butler phrases things - it stirs things in my head and in my heart in ways I don't often experience.
Coming back to it to see that The Guardian had removed the whole bit where Judith Butler talks about TERFs for no reason except that it clearly hit too close to home was...not shocking, really, because I've seen the pieces they publish on trans people (especially transwomen). Except that I had believed there was some kind of integrity, still. Something that would let me keep supporting the parts of their organization doing good.
Yeah. No.
The only upside to all of this is the whole Streisand effect thing - so many more people have now seen those censored paragraphs (and possibly the whole interview) than would have read it if the Guardian UK had simply let it be.
And I didn't post about it at the time, but I've also cancelled (= not renewed) my OTW membership. I still love the AO3, and think it's incredibly important to fandom, but they're just...not doing anything at all to be more anti-racist. Like. At all. I've contacted the Board a couple of times asking for a timeline on some of the things they promised to do in June 2020, with a few requests for comments on the instance of racist harassment a friend was facing (and in another case, non-racist but completely horrid harassment of another friend). I have received absolutely no reply. And it's not because they haven't had the time to do so! It's just clearly very much not a priority. In my communication I did mention I did not feel comfortable supporting them financially until I saw more actions to back up their June 2020 statement and...I have not seen that. So.
Disappointed. Not surprised.
Stitch has a great summary of what's happened on the AO3 anti-racism front. (Spoilers: nothing. Or the opposite of nothing: letting a user get away with harassing a scholar of color writing on fandom and race.)
The fact that the OTW/AO3 hasn't been held at all accountable for (so far) failing to live up to their statement on being actively anti-racist is just...proof that fandom, in general, doesn't really care that much about racism. (And anyone who wants to start a slippery slope argument about censorship kindly do not. This is not what it's about, it's never what it's about - it wasn't what the OTW statement was about, at all. What they proposed were practical solutions to make the AO3 more inclusive for BIPOC.)
Finally, please consider what you want to bring to the comments on this post. I am not here to debate whether or not TERFs are bad (they are), or whether or not wanting to see more inclusivity and less siding with racists from the AO3 is unreasonable (it is not).
There's lots of sources on that, but if anyone's missed it, the interviewer put the cut paragraphs here for free on their Patreon.
And here's a good write-up of what's happened.
I read the interview before it was censored, and thought it was deeply insightful and true, and moving. The way Judith Butler phrases things - it stirs things in my head and in my heart in ways I don't often experience.
Coming back to it to see that The Guardian had removed the whole bit where Judith Butler talks about TERFs for no reason except that it clearly hit too close to home was...not shocking, really, because I've seen the pieces they publish on trans people (especially transwomen). Except that I had believed there was some kind of integrity, still. Something that would let me keep supporting the parts of their organization doing good.
Yeah. No.
The only upside to all of this is the whole Streisand effect thing - so many more people have now seen those censored paragraphs (and possibly the whole interview) than would have read it if the Guardian UK had simply let it be.
And I didn't post about it at the time, but I've also cancelled (= not renewed) my OTW membership. I still love the AO3, and think it's incredibly important to fandom, but they're just...not doing anything at all to be more anti-racist. Like. At all. I've contacted the Board a couple of times asking for a timeline on some of the things they promised to do in June 2020, with a few requests for comments on the instance of racist harassment a friend was facing (and in another case, non-racist but completely horrid harassment of another friend). I have received absolutely no reply. And it's not because they haven't had the time to do so! It's just clearly very much not a priority. In my communication I did mention I did not feel comfortable supporting them financially until I saw more actions to back up their June 2020 statement and...I have not seen that. So.
Disappointed. Not surprised.
Stitch has a great summary of what's happened on the AO3 anti-racism front. (Spoilers: nothing. Or the opposite of nothing: letting a user get away with harassing a scholar of color writing on fandom and race.)
The fact that the OTW/AO3 hasn't been held at all accountable for (so far) failing to live up to their statement on being actively anti-racist is just...proof that fandom, in general, doesn't really care that much about racism. (And anyone who wants to start a slippery slope argument about censorship kindly do not. This is not what it's about, it's never what it's about - it wasn't what the OTW statement was about, at all. What they proposed were practical solutions to make the AO3 more inclusive for BIPOC.)
Finally, please consider what you want to bring to the comments on this post. I am not here to debate whether or not TERFs are bad (they are), or whether or not wanting to see more inclusivity and less siding with racists from the AO3 is unreasonable (it is not).
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Date: 2021-09-08 08:34 pm (UTC)Yeah. This. Exactly this.
There's a little comment box for when you cancel your membership, and I wish I'd had this phrasing for my little essay. (The spirit of the message was the same, but you put it so much better.)
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Date: 2021-09-09 07:10 am (UTC)I am APPALLED by their TERF-ness and dishonest censorship of Judith Butler
but they are one of the very few news sources in Australia who are arguing for reductions to carbon emissions so that we can have a livable planet - a vital issue for everyone, but ESPECIALLY an issue for Australia given the bad heatwaves and bad bushfires we've already seen...
The only other ones are Federal-government funded https://www.abc.net.au/news/justin/
and tiny indie donation funded https://theconversation.com/au
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Date: 2021-09-09 07:33 pm (UTC)The Conversation is great! Thanks for reminding me of it - I should put it on my reading list.
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Date: 2021-09-10 09:44 am (UTC)Back when G****g*** was going on in 2014/5, there was an obviously abusive and graphic fic targeting An*ta S*rk**s**n on the archive. I have no idea whether or not it ever got reported by anyone, but it was there for at least several months. As a member of an RPF fandom (one that Fanl*re absolutely loathes even) this is about when I thinking that the archive needs better rules around RPF and fics-as-harassment, because it’s going to continue happening and worsening as the archive grows.
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Date: 2021-09-10 09:48 am (UTC)Yeah, they're just straight up pushing a transphobic agenda now.
the archive needs better rules around RPF and fics-as-harassment, because it’s going to continue happening and worsening as the archive grows.
Yep! Exactly this. Here's an excellent take on that by Skuld on Twitter:
https://twitter.com/buttonthemdown/status/1436094148495433738?s=20
I've been following the rise and fall off right-wing social media platforms. It turns out when you have a policy of unmoderated free speech, all you get is porn, racism and harm. In a place like AO3 where you start with porn already, where are you left with to go?
Answer: you're basically just left with the racism and harm. By and large the fan community has done decently by not letting degenerate as quickly as Parl/er or Gett/r, but the amount of harassment and abuse is increasing, bc giving a pass on bad behavior reinforces it. (Thread continues)
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Date: 2021-09-10 10:11 am (UTC)Yeah absolutely. AO3’s communal foundation is predicated on the idea that the userbase is a supermajority of fannish (white) women. If at some point that stops being true, AO3 has no processes or systems in place for whatever gets uploaded to the archive, short of turning invites off. And given that AO3 is ranked on Alexa, that just seems like hubris.
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Date: 2021-09-10 10:24 am (UTC)But now you have comments, and bookmarks, and collections, and they keep trying to make it less easy to abuse all the functions but their TOS is not robust enough to stand up to an influx of malicious users. A single user abusing the tags function basically made the site unusable for a whole chunk of users because there was nothing in the TOS (or the construction of the database) making that an actual TOS-violation. And of those tags, at least one was transphobic, but hey - freedom of speech trumps protecting trans people from attacks, right?
The day one of the image boards or other toxic corners of the internet decide to make AO3 as horrifying to the white/uncaring userbase as it is to BIPOC at the moment, it's going to get real ugly. (Like it apparently went ugly during GG - I had completely missed that, but I am not surprised in anything except that it hasn't happened more or on a larger scale.)
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