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So I read some comics this week.
Let's get the RAGE POST out of the way first.
I have been enjoying Miles Morales' story in Ultimate Spider-man. He's a wee adorable middle-schooler who shouldn't have to deal with the problems being a superhero - let alone being Spider-man, in the shadow of Peter Parker's tragic death - brings, but he's trying to handle it as best he can, with an assist from his best friend Ganke (and Nick Fury, and in the highly entertaining crossover with 616!Spider-man, with grown up Peter Parker himself). And then we have issue 13. Please believe me when I say it is not Miles at whom I feel the FIERY RAGE OF A MILLION SUPERNOVAE. Er, if you like Ultimate Captain America, please do not click on the cut.
OH MY FUCKING GOD DO NOT BRING ULTIMATE CAPTAIN AMERICA ANYWHERE NEAR MILES. ALSO, TONY, NO. HE DOES NOT GET TO GET OVER CAUSING PETER'S DEATH. DO NOT GIVE HIM THAT OUT. HE SHOULD FLAGELLATE HIMSELF THROUGH THE STREETS FOR THAT BECAUSE HE IS A RAGING ASSHOLE AND DESERVES TO CARRY IT FOREVER AND FOR ONCE YOU ARE THE BETTER MAN SO LET HIM FEEL GUILTY - AS WELL HE SHOULD - FOR GETTING PETER KILLED. I HOPE AUNT MAY SLAPS HIM AGAIN.
I feel like I can't even talk about how teary I was at Miles meeting Aunt May and Gwen (well, he met Gwen at Peter's funeral, but she didn't know who he was), because the VILENESS of Ultimate Cap drove everything else from my mind. I'm sure this is some ploy to get Cap some kind of forgiveness and closure over what he did to Peter, but FUCK THAT NOISE. I HOPE IT'S A GAPING WOUND IN HIS SHRIVELLED LITTLE SOUL FOREVER. If he fucks things up for Miles I swear I won't be responsible for the sternly worded letter I'll write to Marvel.
Whew. Okay, I feel a little better.
I also read the new Hawkeye and I thought Kate Bishop was supposed to be in it. So I was mostly disappointed because, uh, I don't really care that much about comics Clint? I mostly wanted to read about his interaction with Kate. And possibly also Bobbi or Jessica. I liked the art, but since there was no Kate, I'm glad I didn't pay for this one. Maybe she'll show up next time.
Speaking of Kate Bishop, after watching Teen Wolf, Crystal Reed could TOTALLY be Kate if they made a live-action Young Avengers, and Sinqua Wells could be Eli. I would be totally okay with that. (Also, Tyler Posey for Jaime Reyes? Y/Y? Maybe when he gets a little better at acting?)
And there was also Avenging Spider-man #10, concluding his team up with Captain Marvel. That Robyn was a robot (cyborg?) built to infiltrate the Occupy movement was not a twist I was expecting. I did enjoy Peter trying to bond with her while trying to talk her out of exploding around a bunch of people, and also Carol's annoyance with the rent-a-cops and the idea that a corporation has rights and a person can be property, because wow, wrong-headed and yet so topical. Mostly I want to know what Peter's secret is. Is it his crush on Cap has been reciprocated? Am I imagining the world's most awkward threesome with Peter, Carol and Steve? It might be that I am. *hands* Next time, he teams up with AUNT MAY, who is surely the biggest damn hero in the Marvelverse. ♥ I am definitely purchasing that one, too.
When is the next Spider-men coming out? And also, the Amazing Spider-man 50th Anniversary issue? I know they are putting out a Spidey book each week in August, but I'm not sure I want to buy all of them.
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Let's get the RAGE POST out of the way first.
I have been enjoying Miles Morales' story in Ultimate Spider-man. He's a wee adorable middle-schooler who shouldn't have to deal with the problems being a superhero - let alone being Spider-man, in the shadow of Peter Parker's tragic death - brings, but he's trying to handle it as best he can, with an assist from his best friend Ganke (and Nick Fury, and in the highly entertaining crossover with 616!Spider-man, with grown up Peter Parker himself). And then we have issue 13. Please believe me when I say it is not Miles at whom I feel the FIERY RAGE OF A MILLION SUPERNOVAE. Er, if you like Ultimate Captain America, please do not click on the cut.
OH MY FUCKING GOD DO NOT BRING ULTIMATE CAPTAIN AMERICA ANYWHERE NEAR MILES. ALSO, TONY, NO. HE DOES NOT GET TO GET OVER CAUSING PETER'S DEATH. DO NOT GIVE HIM THAT OUT. HE SHOULD FLAGELLATE HIMSELF THROUGH THE STREETS FOR THAT BECAUSE HE IS A RAGING ASSHOLE AND DESERVES TO CARRY IT FOREVER AND FOR ONCE YOU ARE THE BETTER MAN SO LET HIM FEEL GUILTY - AS WELL HE SHOULD - FOR GETTING PETER KILLED. I HOPE AUNT MAY SLAPS HIM AGAIN.
I feel like I can't even talk about how teary I was at Miles meeting Aunt May and Gwen (well, he met Gwen at Peter's funeral, but she didn't know who he was), because the VILENESS of Ultimate Cap drove everything else from my mind. I'm sure this is some ploy to get Cap some kind of forgiveness and closure over what he did to Peter, but FUCK THAT NOISE. I HOPE IT'S A GAPING WOUND IN HIS SHRIVELLED LITTLE SOUL FOREVER. If he fucks things up for Miles I swear I won't be responsible for the sternly worded letter I'll write to Marvel.
Whew. Okay, I feel a little better.
I also read the new Hawkeye and I thought Kate Bishop was supposed to be in it. So I was mostly disappointed because, uh, I don't really care that much about comics Clint? I mostly wanted to read about his interaction with Kate. And possibly also Bobbi or Jessica. I liked the art, but since there was no Kate, I'm glad I didn't pay for this one. Maybe she'll show up next time.
Speaking of Kate Bishop, after watching Teen Wolf, Crystal Reed could TOTALLY be Kate if they made a live-action Young Avengers, and Sinqua Wells could be Eli. I would be totally okay with that. (Also, Tyler Posey for Jaime Reyes? Y/Y? Maybe when he gets a little better at acting?)
And there was also Avenging Spider-man #10, concluding his team up with Captain Marvel. That Robyn was a robot (cyborg?) built to infiltrate the Occupy movement was not a twist I was expecting. I did enjoy Peter trying to bond with her while trying to talk her out of exploding around a bunch of people, and also Carol's annoyance with the rent-a-cops and the idea that a corporation has rights and a person can be property, because wow, wrong-headed and yet so topical. Mostly I want to know what Peter's secret is. Is it his crush on Cap has been reciprocated? Am I imagining the world's most awkward threesome with Peter, Carol and Steve? It might be that I am. *hands* Next time, he teams up with AUNT MAY, who is surely the biggest damn hero in the Marvelverse. ♥ I am definitely purchasing that one, too.
When is the next Spider-men coming out? And also, the Amazing Spider-man 50th Anniversary issue? I know they are putting out a Spidey book each week in August, but I'm not sure I want to buy all of them.
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Ugh, and the Ultimates are the worst. I wish my introduction to the Avengers hadn't been through the Ultimates back when the title began because I probably would have liked them more. As it was I just backed slowly away from that group and didn't come around to them again until the movieverse started up and suddenly I liked all the characters.
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YES. I feel like that is the appropriate response to his story!
I wish my introduction to the Avengers hadn't been through the Ultimates back when the title began because I probably would have liked them more.
Oh, man, I am so sorry! I was mostly unfamiliar with them except as they had interacted with the X-Men, but luckily I saw Captain America first and read the Brubaker run on his comic before reading Ultimates, and every time I see someone recommend Ultimates as a good starting point for someone wanting to get into Avengers comics, I try to comment and say NO PLEASE DON'T! IT WILL ONLY END IN TEARS AND LOATHING!
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every time I see someone recommend Ultimates as a good starting point for someone wanting to get into Avengers comics
Ugh why do people do this whyyyyy
Like, I get that the art is really good and really accessible and the people talk like regular people and it's nice and self-contained, and these are all good things for people who are new to comics/these characters, but UGHHHH WHYYYYY.
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I would get recommending Ultimate Spider-man, as it does have one long arc that comes to an (excruciatingly tragical) end, but everything else about Ultimates is awful! The characters are all assholes, the plotting doesn't necessarily make sense, Hank Pym's a domestic abuser, the Hulk's a cannibal, and Captain America is a raging jackwagon. When Tony Stark is your most decent member, YOU ARE DOING IT WRONG.
Ahem. I know you know this.
Mostly I see it on non-LJ/DW spaces - AV Club, Goodreads, CBR (I think? Maybe it was bleeding cool or newsarama or superhero hype? one of those places where there are comments/forums) - and it's generally dudes who think Mark Millar's facile take on realpolitik is ~edgy~ and ~realistic~. When I see it in fannish spaces I'm comfortable in, I generally chime in with OH HONEY NO.
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You speak truth. That is totally the guy who recommended it to me. And I was really enjoying the Ultimate Spider-Man at the time (being a long time Peter fangirl) so I thought I'd try it. SUCH A BAD CHOICE.
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*blinks* OK, everything else you listed I already knew and had as reasons to NEVER BUY THOSE BOOKS, but that one I didn't know. Really?
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... but I don't know what I *should* start with! Especially since I don't have a lot of background with superhero books, and what I have read has been DC. (Baaaaats.)
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I can highly recommend volume 5 of Captain America and the first eight issues of Winter Soldier; I've really liked the kid!Loki arc of Journey Into Mystery, which begins with issue #622 and has been running since then. It had a definite Vertigo feel to it - it's the only Marvel thing I've read that reminds me of Sandman/Lucifer in a good way.
I also really enjoyed Young Avengers, and Avengers: Children's Crusade, which deals with some of the younger heroes in the Marvelverse. They are kind of a really faily Teen Titans and unlike in the DCU, teen superheroes are not encouraged in the Marvelverse.
Hawkeye just started this week with a new book that shouldn't require a lot of knowledge - he does some expositing in it so you know who he is etc. and they just started a new Captain Marvel with Carol Danvers, who might eventually show up in the movieverse - that was pretty aweosme.
Black Widow: Name of the Rose is a great book by Marjorie Liu.
I haven't read any Iron Man or Hulk, so I don't know what to recommend there.
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This is what happened to me. It's like, did you actually read this? It's horrible.
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