Lanna Michaels (
lannamichaels) wrote2021-07-15 04:34 pm
The "I Wanna Be Your Slave" Music Video, or: In Which There Are Timestamps Of Despair.
-Måneskin - I WANNA BE YOUR SLAVE (Official Video)
I cannot.
Like, when this video started, I was all, "oh this is fine", in a real way, not in a This Is Fine way, you know? It was all fine.
Anyway, what I guess I mean is, this video builds. And it's... it's a lot.
So... uh, here's some notable timestamps.
0:38: We're still fine. Damiano's in the black lacy bra, panties, thigh-high stockings, and high heels, with his arms crossed in front of his chest and then showing off his biceps. Victoria squeezes one of them. "I wanna be your champion."
0:54: Ethan is on his hands and knees. Victoria, wearing a pink dress, white socks, and black high heels, presses the sole of her shoe against Ethan's forehead like she's going to kick him in the face.
1:12: I cannot figure out what the fuck is going on here and I have tried. Thomas is shirtless and wearing a collar and reacting backward like he just got hit in the face?
1:16: Thomas grabs and squeezes Damiano's ass. Both of them are wearing white briefs and nothing else. I did not expect that. We are less fine.
1:30: Thomas hooks a finger underneath Damiano's pearl necklace and tugs him forward. (There's no faces but I know this is Thomas because this was one of the Softcore Porn That Got Pulled From Instagram The First Time They Posted It images and it was person-tagged as being Thomas)
1:36: Ethan is drumming while wearing nothing but black briefs.
1:55: Damiano and Ethan kiss and then expand pink chewing gum between their mouths. WE ARE NO LONGER FINE.
2:01: The "Victoria spits on Ethan while they both wear collars" clip from the promo. It's the "you could be the beauty" line.
2:03: Shirtless Damiano winks at the camera to let us know that the porn is about to start. From here until the unwinking, we have two scenes going on side-by-side on the screen, like you're watching it through a peep-hole, seeing no one above the shoulder or below the thigh.
2:04: Victoria scrapes her fingernails across Ethan's chest.
2:05: Thomas pulls on Damiano's nipple ring. Meanwhile, in the other shot, Damiano, facing the camera, slides his underwear down until you see his pubes.
2:06: Thomas scrapes his nails up Damiano's back. In the other shot, Damiano slides his hand under the side of Thomas's underwear.
2:07: Victoria (wearing white panties and a white bra) spanks Ethan (wearing just white briefs). In the other shot... I really don't know. The front of someone's nether regions is pressing up against someone else's ass. From the cut of the underwear, the presser... might? be Victoria? It looks more like boyshorts than tighty-whities. Her sex scenes in this have been with Ethan, so she's probably grinding on Ethan in this? I don't know, I can't tell any difference between this and actualfax pornography.
2:07: Damiano unwinks.
2:08: Shirtless Thomas with his hands tied together with rope.
2:18: Just in case we couldn't tell the line was "and if you want to use me, I could be your puppet", we get the back of a leather jacket, with the word "PUPPET" written on it in studs, and then the shot changes and we see Damiano is wearing it and what seems like nothing else. Yes, Damiano, we get the message.
2:19: Damiano is wearing a short sleeve lacey black shirt with white crochet collar (maybe very mini dress) that hits just below his underwear. He waves at the screen from the background.
2:21: Damiano lifts that shirt/dress up to chest level to show off his white briefs.
2:22: Damiano, wearing clothing (I am constantly reminded of that Eurovision interview that goes: Interviewer: "Damiano, I didn't recognize you because you're wearing clothes!" Everyone laughs. Victoria: "That's typical". Ethan & Thomas: "Yeah".) is on the ground, his knees, face, and hands against the ground, his ass in the air.
2:23: Thomas gets to join in the censored-nipple action, this time with black star stickers over his nipples. Oh, and he's got on a collar, some kind of... kinky gear I don't even know what it is over his stomach with straps (looks maybe like a girdle? posture-related if it were on the other way around?), buckles, and a chain, and black gloves that go half-way up his biceps. He is also wearing trousers.
2:28: Damiano pounds on Ethan's chest.
2:33: I think Ethan is crawling backwards on the ground, wearing just black briefs.
2:36: Thomas may be suspended upside down, looking like some kind of bondage (hands tied out of frame?). However, since his hair isn't flopping, he might not be suspended and it's just an upside-down shot of the rope bondage from earlier, since the general tone of this part of the video is rewinding.
2:38: The Damiano/Ethan chewing gum kiss comes back to where it started.
2:39: Damiano is on his hands and forearms on the floor, Ethan is straddling him and tugging on his hair.
2:41: Ethan... sucks a metal necklace up into his mouth by the chain? I do not recognize the pendant except that I think I'm supposed to. With this band, my general rule is "when in doubt, it's something Catholic".
2:48: "I wanna be your slave, I wanna be your master." Damiano, facing Thomas, holds Thomas by the hair and whispers into his ear, looking at him for the first part the line, and staring at the camera for the last part, to end the song and the video.
That was a lot. But with all the promo, I'd just imagined them having a band meeting, throwing out kink ideas onto a white board and then deciding to go with all of them, so it being a lot is fully expected. (How many different collars is Thomas wearing? Is it two different black ones in addition to the red one?)
There's things to say about the peephole camera thing they use a lot, and them banging on the transparent floor, and, idk, trying to interact with the viewer/being aware of being observed, looking back out of the peephole at the viewer, the "bad film" or "film damage" effects like cigarette burns or various distortion things/light effects/whatever they're called, and how that works in with the whole porn thing, but I can't think of anything about that.
I will say they fully wasted all the meta potential of the '"because, baby, I'm your David", sung by Damiano David' line.
And this ends the "what the fuck was that" timestamp post :P But I just have to say, watching on 0.33x or 0.12x speed is actually a great way to watch something with so many cuts. It's a shame it's not a great long-term solution to that problem.
Also, I joke, but considering that I identified all three of the dudes in various shots based on their tattoos or lack of them, that actually was extremely important research.

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That's pretty much the overall mood for me watching this. XD
I'm thoroughly impressed by your analysis & research (very important, yes), and I wonder if the director of the video thought even half as much about what's to be seen afterwards as you!
Also: THAT CHEWING GUM KISS. THE SPIT. THE GRINDING. What are they thinking?? The planet's overheating already, ffs. I cannot handle this, thank you for taking my hand. ♥
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PLUS THE NIPPLE RING TUGGING. THE NIPPLE RING TUGGING IS ALSO A LOT. LET US NEVER FORGET THE NIPPLE RING TUGGING. AND THE NECKLACE TUGGING.
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They ARE nipple tugging!! I mean-- it should be a fucking commercial for their (I don't want to say mediocre, ahem, apart from the solo, which is grand and probably was already written like 50 years before, haha) song, right? Not the teaser for a full-blown (HAHA, sorry, bad pun, it's late already) high-res orgy in a vintage clothing store. RIGHT?
I have to lay down now. I may need smelling salts to wake up tomorrow, never mind me. I'll have very sweet dreams! :D
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YOU TOOK THESE WORDS OUT OF MY MIND DIRECTLY
I always got the impression Ethan was rather... indulging the others' antics. In a kind, but detached way, maybe.
Warning, Ethan thoughts and feels below!
I have a theory about this! As someone who does follow them more closely, and has seen ungodly amounts of canon, my theory about Ethan is that there's a part of him that wishes he could be like the others, and most specifically like Damiano (because they all in one way or another look up to Damiano, and Ethan and Thomas in particular were in some ways shaped and molded by him because of the age difference and his more dominant role in the band).
But like, the rest of them know how to be charming offhand, how to be clever and funny, and I think Ethan really struggles with that. He struggles with shyness in general, but beyond shyness, he's just not very good at thinking quickly in stressful situations in front of a camera, so like Damiano can crack jokes and charm the pants off a table, Victoria can talk non-stop and be disarming and funny, Thomas can be awkward but he'll still tease and joke and stuff... and I think you can see Ethan kind forcing/training himself to talk more in interviews, especially now that they're doing stuff in English, because otherwise he'll just be the silent log who's always drumming in the back.
What I'm saying is, during Eurovision Damiano kissed Thomas on stage spontaneously, and then MUCH LATER, when the ceremony and the performance was over, Ethan came up to Damiano and basically was like "ok but I want a kiss too!!!!" but in an understated quiet Ethan way. And I legit think now that they're developing more and more the routine of Damiano and Thomas flirting and kissing on stage (which was present before but wasn't anywhere near this pronounced) and Victoria has her own thing going as The Girl, Ethan is genuinely like "omg guys use meeeee let me do stufffff". It's why it was him getting spat on, it's why he was the one to kiss Damiano here.
So I think he's kind of deliberately courting the more "controversial" stuff right now, because if he doesn't he'll kind of get left out of the action (which is obviously ridiculous because the fan interest in him is huge, but you know).
Two things I've seen that support this: that interview where he and Thomas get asked whether they're ever jealous of the "Lenon and McCartney" of the band, Damiano and Vic. Thomas just says no, and Ethan says "no, that would be self destructive". Which to me reads like he naturally wants that spotlight, but intellectually knows it's a toxic desire to have when he already has a place in the band. And the interview before Sanremo where they get questions from twitter and one is from an Ethan fanpage, and he clearly knows the page and when the others make fun of the question he even tries to "defend" it by saying maybe they meant this and not that. To me all of that suggests he's very attuned and interested in and cherishes the attention he gets from fans, and doesn't want to feel like ~the boring one~ or the one who never gets to do the controversial stuff that gets everyone talking.
(I think Thomas to some extent also has those thoughts/feelings, because it's natural, but the difference is that Thomas is ultimately not bothered enough by them to actually actively do anything about it - for example get a better sexy haircut, or start working out so he's ~buff. It's like every time those feelings arise he's like "ok but I get to play guitar and have everything I ever wanted so like, is it really worth my time and energy to get even more attention? nah")
ANYWAY just my thoughts on why it was Ethan doing the kissing this time :D
They ARE nipple tugging!! I mean-- it should be a fucking commercial for their (I don't want to say mediocre, ahem, apart from the solo, which is grand and probably was already written like 50 years before, haha) song, right? Not the teaser for a full-blown (HAHA, sorry, bad pun, it's late already) high-res orgy in a vintage clothing store.
I'm just SO GLAD SOMEONE FINALLY PLAYED WITH DAMIANO'S RING WHERE WE COULD SEE IT. I feel like from the moment this fandom was born this moment has been in the making. A band like THAT with a lead singer with a nipple ring, come on! I'm SO GLAD it finally happened lolol
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And there are so much possibilities for, ah, involving Ethan's gorgeous hair... I'm looking forward to what the future brings!! In times like these-- it's a wonder, haha!
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I just want to say, nothing is a truer example of Thomas' "what do you guys wanna do? I'm up for whatever" than everything he, a 20 year old straight dude, is doing in this video lolol
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Thomas is so game for this kinky orgy we're throwing! Why don't I get stepped on or spanked???!!!! And oh well, guess I'll just have to share all the collars with everyone else. But I call manhandling Damiano!
I await the inevitable Thomas/Ethan kiss, whenever it happens.
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look sometimes the submissives are going to perform for their dominants's enjoyment and entertainment, that's just part of the dealEthan and Thomas sneak off and form their own cover band, with a boom box with Damiano's voice because neither of them can sing and they both don't like auto-tuneIt's Not Fair That Damiano Is The Only Member Of This Band To Kiss Everyone In It, We Must All Share In The Kissing Or It's Like We Let Damiano Go Solo.
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and I wonder if the director of the video thought even half as much about what's to be seen afterwards as you
I actually looked up the director as soon as I watched it because the visuals were SO specifically constructed and had a very specific cinematic vibe to them that I recognized from Dudes Who Go To Film School and indeed, everything I've seen about that director confirms what I assumed! lol (for example like the 6th pic on his insta was an artistic black and white shot of a dude pissing in a field, clearly PERFECT for the Maneskin aesthetic).
Anyway, just wanted to say I think every moment of this was extremely thought-through, every angle, every lighting choice, which is a delight because it means digging through it is so rewarding. There are SO many moments in there that are a very long cinematic and visual conversation condescend to about a mili-second. Sorry, this is not to imply you were serious in saying the director didn't think about it as deeply! this is just me super excited that they picked this specific type of music video director for this project.
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Did they just pull out a kink checklist and go "Yes"?
Also:
1. I think you're correct on the 2:07 presser, the stomach there looks female (OK, that sounds ridiculous, but you know what I mean.)
2. I wonder how much juggling of "If we take this shot out we can leave this shot in" they did to get something that could actually be classed officially as A Music Video and not Actually Porn.
3. 2:41 - looks like a Maltese cross? Can't see if there's anything on the flat circle above it. Not sure of significance here.
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Yeah, it's usually easy for me to tell them apart! And then I had to be like "no, that red tattoo is Thomas". It was an Experience.
Yeah, like, there's stuff they DIDN'T do (there's no leashes, which is only notable because there have been instagram comments from bandmembers calling other ones puppies) but otherwise, it is just a full-on kinky orgy.
I figure someone somewhere has a cheatsheet for this, and probably it's why the porn shots were in less than 5 seconds total. But there's a promo shot that wasn't in the video, where Ethan is holding Victoria around the back and below one of her thighs, which is up against his hip. It's not in the video, so either it was cut or it was just promo.
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There is a leash, I think! When Victoria is "riding" Thomas and he's on all fours, if you pause/watch it slowly, she's holding his leash.
Also, with the puppy thing! I recently (like, yesterday) discovered that the word they're all using it's actually technically "puppy"! LOL Apparently it's an Italian word that can be applied to any small animal, it just basically means "a small animal child" and then you can speicify of which kind (cat, dog, etc) and apparently it only applies to mammals. Basically it's a standard endearment that means "adorable little animal". MAYBE there's context where, if you don't specify an animal a dog is assumed? But the article I read claimed that wasn't the case. So I think it's maybe just that Italian fans found "puppy" to be the closest and easiest translation to make. Anyway, just sharing random info! lol
I figure someone somewhere has a cheatsheet for this, and probably it's why the porn shots were in less than 5 seconds total. But there's a promo shot that wasn't in the video, where Ethan is holding Victoria around the back and below one of her thighs, which is up against his hip.
Yessss, I'm so curious why they didn't use that! Was it too close to porn for various platforms? Or, and this is my personal preferred theory, they realized after shooting it that it was too boringly Heterosexual and also "inappropriate" because Victoria is never sexualized in that specific way in their promos anymore, basically to prevent any rumors of "actually she's sleeping with [insert band member]". It's also interesting that when they had to pick 4 photos for a tweet to post the promo, that was the one they cut.
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Is that a leash? I spent a while trying to figure out what she was winding around her hand, but it seemed like a black cable and I was confused.
I think the puppy thing is also thanks to google translate, because that's what it gave me for that.
Plus the ones they kept are more domme-y. Aside from the early shot of Victoria on her knees with her hands tied behind her back, I can't recall offhand her being in a submissive posture in the vid. When she's in that leather bra and underwear, she even flexes her biceps like Damiano did earlier, so we've got two folks in bras flexing their arms and one of them is more femme and sub-y and that's the dude. Also, when she's in bondage, she's fully clothed, unlike Thomas, who is shirtless. It's like Maneskin took a look at the possible dynamics and pitfalls of doing a kink video with three men and one woman and were like "under no circumstance can we imply that Victoria is submissive to them". It seems very deliberately crafted to avoid all female submission tropes, while still giving Victoria her time to be a switch like the rest of them.
God, I wanna write a dissertation on the gender and slash dynamics of this video. Because they fully embraced the slash, and also were like "heterosexuality but make it queer".
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You can show her only dominant and then you avoid pitfalls and trauma (for a lot of women seeing women being submissive in kinky scenarios triggers associations with real violence) but then you've basically cut off half the erotic potential for her ~self expression~ and are basically saying - women can only be awesome when they're in charge. A woman who's vulnerable to a man is weak by definition, which is all kinds of gross for other reasons.
So yeah I think the compromise was to have ONE SHOT of her being submissive, in which she's fully clothed and also ALONE. None of the men are actually around, you have to imagine someone tying her up, and technically it can be anyone.
But it's a really tricky thing, which I think Victoria actually nevigates really well IRL with her public image. Like she straddles the line between taking the lead and relying on her bandmates publicly in a way that's really refreshing to watch.
Anyway yes absolutely every single choice in this with gender and sexuality stuff was extremely deliberate, straddled a very specific line, and I think was also constrained by the fact that they had to keep this from being actual porn lolol.
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I have been having thoughts today of the way to do Damiano/Victoria femslash and it's just to lean in so much to All The Drag and the feminization, but I don't think it's anything I'd ever do. But I think Damiano is deliberately making a whole lot of space for it these days with the endless drag he is doing. (I am NOT COMPLAINING about the endless drag. I am just saying, it's a lot of dresses he's wearing these days. And then he flips up his dress to show off his tighty-whiteys. I'm in favor.)
EDIT: But also I meant to say, their outfits from today with their makeup, I noped out. Because the makeup makes it look like Victoria has bruising around her eyes. They all have the same eye makeup. It all looks the same. But it's not the same, because they can't outrun the context. But if they're all doing it, Victoria gets to do it, too. If there'd been a scene in the video where they're all in bondage together at the same time, it probably would have worked, because then no one's the dominant.
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I'm so glad they prepared us for that shot, because honestly I think it would have been a very serious hit otherwise.
1:36: Ethan is drumming while wearing nothing but black briefs.
I just don't understand why this is not what we get in every performance of Ethan drumming.
1:55: Damiano and Ethan kiss and then expand pink chewing gum between their mouths. WE ARE NO LONGER FINE.
This is gonna sound weird, but that shot (which I had to pause on to process before I kept watching) destroyed me not even because of Ethan and Damiano specifically but because of how they were dressed and posed.
Damiano as the ultimate Good Girl in his little black dress with the white collar, and his pearls, his hands pulled back (in today's promo you can see he was holding them back fully), and Ethan in that fucking 18th century style shirt with the high ruffled collar and the ACTUAL COLLAR on top and the suspenders and the hair... that image DID THINGS to me.
I immediately felt like my brain started writing the story of their characters in that shot, Damiano as the trans girl who's slowly fallen in love with a boy she always sees on her way home or whatever who is the cherished sex slave of some master, and they're only allowed to kiss because Ethan isn't allowed to show his body or do anything more without his master's permission, and I just... I REALLY DID NOT NEED TO BE SWALLOWED UP BY AN AU OVER A SINGLE IMAGE.
2:01: The "Victoria spits on Ethan while they both wear collars" clip from the promo. It's the "you could be the beauty" line.
LOL I missed how clever that line is with this image. Victoria shows up on "you could be the beauty" but then when she spits on Ethan she becomes the monster, OR Ethan is the monster for loving this as much as he clearly does. It's just really clever, rich visual storytelling.
2:03: Shirtless Damiano winks at the camera to let us know that the porn is about to start.
LOL I didn't even realize this was the ~plot structure~ until I read your post. But of course, the shots are the circle shape of Damiano's eyepatch and also of a peephole.
2:21: Damiano lifts that shirt/dress up to chest level to show off his white briefs.
LOL it's definitely a dress (I love that cut!) and I love that that shot exemplifies Damiano's entire relationship with cameras.
2:23: Thomas gets to join in the censored-nipple action, this time with black star stickers over his nipples. Oh, and he's got on a collar, some kind of... kinky gear I don't even know what it is over his stomach with straps (looks maybe like a girdle? posture-related if it were on the other way around?), buckles, and a chain, and black gloves that go half-way up his biceps. He is also wearing trousers.
Fun fact! This is one of my fav shots on the video even though it's sort of blah compared to so much else, because this is a visual reference to a very specific movie that I love and that also sets the tone for Maneskin's vibe in this.
So the handless Thomas is a reference to Venus de Milo (the director confirmed that on twitter) but more specifically, the image of black gloves worn that way, with something obscuring the chest, against a black background, is from Bernardo Bertolucci's (English language!) movie "The Dreamers". Here's a screenshot:
(I mean, if the director tried to claim he wasn't specifically referencing Bertolucci here in around other working directors he'd be laughed out of the room)
"The Dreamers" is about a young and innocent American college student who in the 60s studies abroad in France and fall in love with a beautiful French girl (pictured above) and then her brother, who's also a student at the same university. Eventually the three of them move in together and lose all boundaries between platonic/romantic/sexual/etc relationships (altho IIRC the incest is only emotional and never physical).
For example all three of them fall asleep in a bathtub, naked, and when the protag wakes up he panics because the water is tinged red. The girl laughs, and her brother says "relax, she just got her period!" The first time the protag and the sister have sex, it's on the floor of the kitchen, while next to them the brother is making omlettes. When they're done (and the blood from her vagina is smeared on both of their faces because the protag touches it and then kisses her) all three of them sit down to have breakfast.
So, as you can see, this is a movie that's... EXTREMELY ON THEME for the overall "coworkers and bandmates and siblings and orgy friends also everyone is bi" Maneskin aesthetic and this video specifically.
2:41: Ethan... sucks a metal necklace up into his mouth by the chain? I do not recognize the pendant except that I think I'm supposed to. With this band, my general rule is "when in doubt, it's something Catholic".
Thomas is wearing that necklace earlier (it's a cross of some kind) although I don't remember in which bit.
But with all the promo, I'd just imagined them having a band meeting, throwing out kink ideas onto a white board and then deciding to go with all of them, so it being a lot is fully expected.
Ahaha have you seen the interview since where they were like "these kinks are real, many people have them as part of their daily lives, we just wanted to show that" that was SO UNEXPECTEDLY RESPECTFUL and not the usual "yeah we're being sexy ;)" stuff whenever poeple show kink in these contexts.
I will say they fully wasted all the meta potential of the '"because, baby, I'm your David", sung by Damiano David' line.
SO SAD AND SO TRUE! Also I think they had the word "sin" written on Victoria's tongue because Damiano pronounces it "scene" and they wanted to make it clear to the English speakers lolol
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You are absolutely right, if that had come out of the blue, that would have been The End Of All Things. There would be no sound but the sound of Damiano in that lingerie.
Why does he go to the gym if not to be naked while on stage????
That promo image just... it was a lot, it was so much. First their postures and their hands behind their backs and then the DETAILING ON DAMIANO'S DRESS, with the levels of lace ruffles, and... and... and...
I want to icon it but how can I icon it when I want the icon to focus on EVERY SINGLE PART OF THAT IMAGE.
YES PLEASE.
Ah, cool! I didn't get the Venus de Milo ref myself but saw it on tumblr, but hadn't known the film ref.
Was that the one where Ethan gets asked directly about the spitting and was fully on board with it AND AT THAT POINT WE DIDN'T KNOW THAT VICTORIA ALSO SPANKS HIM? It all combines in my head, but yeah, I've been liking their promo.
My kingdom for an official lyric video of this song, just to clear everything up. I thought the first instance was "you could be the beauty and I could be the monster" and the second was "you can be the beauty" and I really wanted to title a fic you could be the beauty, not you can, but eventually I went with some image of the lyrics from some instagram that said it was "can" for both of them.