Old Joe

	For the character as he appears in Fallout, see Ian (Fallout).

The following is based on Fallout 2 Unused Content

“You see Old Joe, the local idiot savant.”

Old Joe is an unused character in Fallout 2.

Background[edit]

Old Joe would have been Ian's new name after moving to Vault City.^[1]^[2] He would have initially mistaken the Chosen One for the Vault Dweller.^[3]

Behind the Scenes[edit]

Chris Avellone stated that Ian was to appear as "a very old guy" in the Den and the Abbey, before being moved to Vault City and ending up being unused, as the developers thought that there were already too many characters from the first game making a returning appearance in Fallout 2.^{[Dev 1]}^{[Dev 2]}

References[edit]

↑ Old Joe: "Yeah, we sure gave the Master hell, didn't we? Shit fell apart after you left, though. Had to move around and change my name. Where'd you end up?"
(Old Joe's dialogue)
↑ Chosen One: "What's going on here?"
Old Joe: "Well, the Vault Citizens think very highly of their bloodline and don't care much for people like me and you. You take this gun. It'll protect you if things get a little out of control. You probably shouldn't be seen talking with this crazy old man. Best get on your way."
(Old Joe's dialogue)
↑ Chosen One: "Ian?"
Old Joe: "Yeah, Ian. Don't you remember me? It's been a bunch of years. You'd think someone wouldn't forget his best buddy. Well... except for the shooting in the back thing. Sorry about that again."
Chosen One: "I am sorry, but you must think I am the Vault Dweller. My village was founded by the one who came from the Vault."
Old Joe: "Well, that makes a bit more sense. Well, it's good to hear my friend did well. Well, old Ian's got some advice for you. You be careful out there. This place ain't as peachy as it seems."
(Old Joe's dialogue)

Developer Statements

↑ Question: "1. In FO2, the random encounter Café of Broken Dreams Tandi says Ian is some ware in FO2 is this true and if so, ware???"
Answer: "Tandi is a big fat liar. Ian was originally intended to be in Fallout 2 (as a very old guy in the Den), but it was scrapped near the end because there were (in our opinion) too many characters making repeat appearances already. If I can dig up his old dialogue at some point, I will."
(Fallout Bible 6)
↑ Question: "* Another possible pie in the face... Ian was supposed to be in the Abbey, right? Or was he momentarily moved to the Den after the Abbey was scrapped?"
Answer: "Ian was actually slated for the Abbey and the Den that I know of, but something that Ausir (I think) pointed out, he was actually in Vault City before he is unused in the game. Man, that old fuck Ian sure gets around when he's not blowing holes in you with his SMG. Thanks to Ausir for 'Old Joe...'"
(Fallout Bible 8)

[1] Old Joe: "Yeah, we sure gave the Master hell, didn't we? Shit fell apart after you left, though. Had to move around and change my name. Where'd you end up?"
(Old Joe's dialogue)

[2] Chosen One: "What's going on here?"
Old Joe: "Well, the Vault Citizens think very highly of their bloodline and don't care much for people like me and you. You take this gun. It'll protect you if things get a little out of control. You probably shouldn't be seen talking with this crazy old man. Best get on your way."
(Old Joe's dialogue)

[3] Chosen One: "Ian?"
Old Joe: "Yeah, Ian. Don't you remember me? It's been a bunch of years. You'd think someone wouldn't forget his best buddy. Well... except for the shooting in the back thing. Sorry about that again."
Chosen One: "I am sorry, but you must think I am the Vault Dweller. My village was founded by the one who came from the Vault."
Old Joe: "Well, that makes a bit more sense. Well, it's good to hear my friend did well. Well, old Ian's got some advice for you. You be careful out there. This place ain't as peachy as it seems."
(Old Joe's dialogue)

[4] Question: "1. In FO2, the random encounter Café of Broken Dreams Tandi says Ian is some ware in FO2 is this true and if so, ware???"
Answer: "Tandi is a big fat liar. Ian was originally intended to be in Fallout 2 (as a very old guy in the Den), but it was scrapped near the end because there were (in our opinion) too many characters making repeat appearances already. If I can dig up his old dialogue at some point, I will."
(Fallout Bible 6)

[5] Question: "* Another possible pie in the face... Ian was supposed to be in the Abbey, right? Or was he momentarily moved to the Den after the Abbey was scrapped?"
Answer: "Ian was actually slated for the Abbey and the Den that I know of, but something that Ausir (I think) pointed out, he was actually in Vault City before he is unused in the game. Man, that old fuck Ian sure gets around when he's not blowing holes in you with his SMG. Thanks to Ausir for 'Old Joe...'"
(Fallout Bible 8)

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