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- Sharon, Lois & Bram Sampler (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable promotional casette consisting of pre-existing songs with no notable coverage in sources. Redirect to the artists Sharon, Lois, and Bram. SenshiSun (talk) 17:49, 21 August 2026 (UTC)
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- Redirect is fine, I don't see any sourcing for this 30yr old sampler cassette. Oaktree b (talk) 18:09, 21 August 2026 (UTC)
- We'll Have Our Home Again (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Does not pass WP:NMUSIC or WP:GNG. Coverage does not have sigcov about the song but about the DHS, and mention this in brief as an example of the DHS's white supremacist messaging, without actually giving any significant coverage of the song. Every source is only covering 1 instance of the DHS using this song from a weeklong period in January of this year; the SPLC source alone gives some additional background, but I'm not sure I'd call it sigcov, and that's still the only thing that could even theoretically be considered SIGCOV, which is not enough for WP:GNG. As is, this is an unexpandable permastub, there's nothing more to say but what is already here. Just "the song is racist" and "racists use the song". I'm sure; that isn't sigcov. PARAKANYAA (talk) 03:24, 20 August 2026 (UTC)
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- A few more sources have been added by the page creator since the AfD has started; all are still brief mentions from the brief period, including an opinion piece, which does not count for notability (and the opinion piece still only has a passing mention). There is simply nothing to say about the song. It could be merged, I suppose, to some article about the DHS, but there simply is nothing about the song to say. PARAKANYAA (talk) 04:01, 20 August 2026 (UTC)
Keep per multiple non-trivial mentions in major national news stories. Below is my take on the current sources. WidgetKid Converse 04:38, 20 August 2026 (UTC)
- Redirect to ICE recruitment during the second Trump administration#White nationalism allegations, given the coverage is all in the context of these events. WidgetKid Converse 21:53, 20 August 2026 (UTC)
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- Where are you getting these counts? Your first example says the PBS has 100 words, but all it has is in the source is
"Then there's this tweet from Friday, an ICE recruitment ad featuring the turn of phrase "We will have our home again" plastered over an image of a man on horseback and a stealth bomber flying in the distance. That's a reference to the song "We'll Have Our Home Again," a white supremacist anthem favored by the Proud Boys."
in a transcript. That is not sigcov, or 100 words? The New York Times piece you say is sigcov has one 72 word paragraph. further, blind word counting is not a way to determine sigcov, but whether "original research is needed to extract the content" - the case here. The WSJ piece is an opinion piece, also a passing mention (The only thing the WSJ piece says isIf that wasn’t enough, the same account also posted an image accompanied by the text, “We’ll have our home again”—the title of a song popular among white nationalists. When users opened the post on Instagram, audio of the song played.
) WP:RSOPINION, WP:NEWSWEEK is not reliable. - The only thing the Atlantic piece says about the song is
DHS also recently posted an image of a horse rider with a B-2 bomber overhead, superimposed with the text “We’ll have our home again.” That phrase is nearly identical to lyrics from a song by a group affiliated with the Mannerbund, a far-right folk group that draws upon Germany’s ethno-nationalist Völkisch movement: “Oh by God, we’ll have our home again.”
This is not sigcov, or even 100 words, and WP:100WORDS is an essay. This is the most passing mention a passing mention can be. There are not multiple sources that are sigcov here. PARAKANYAA (talk) 04:56, 20 August 2026 (UTC)
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- I agree that blind word counting isn't enough, but there's a clear pattern of the song being covered significantly by many outlets. Even if you nitpick away a couple sources, there is still enough to write an article and to pass WP:GNG. WidgetKid Converse 07:02, 20 August 2026 (UTC)
- Delete, fails both WP:NSONG and WP:GNG. No evidence of actual significant coverage, just a series of passing mentions in otherwise routine news coverage of other, more notable topics. This song just barely warrants a mention in ICE recruitment during the second Trump administration, but definitely not an independent article - at present there is no significant coverage of the song itself. Ethmostigmus 🌿 (talk |
- I wasn't aware of that article - that is a great fit for this content. I've changed my input above. Thanks! WidgetKid Converse 21:53, 20 August 2026 (UTC)
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- Redirect to list of white power bands. Arlo James Barnes (pro-∪nion) 18:19, 20 August 2026 (UTC)
- Redirect to ICE recruitment during the second Trump administration#White nationalism allegations, where the song is already mentioned. SupermarketCake (talk) 20:02, 21 August 2026 (UTC)
- Try and Fail (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This single fails WP:NSONG; I did a WP:BEFORE and could not find any sources covering this song besides the one used in the article. Opm581 (talk | he/him) 04:50, 19 August 2026 (UTC)
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- Delete: Currently, there is one secondary source for the article, a small review by HotNewHipHop, and all other sources refer to Apple Music and show only basic release details. Currently, there is not enough significant independent coverage to prove that the song is notable according to the notability guidelines. Since the single has been released only on August 18, 2026, more coverage might become available in the future; however, based on current sources, the page should be deleted. Alazar202 (talk) 10:01, 19 August 2026 (UTC)
- Delete: There's only one source for the article, which doesn't meet any of the criteria above, and while to an extent it's ok to use Apple Music as a source, it can't be used as a second option when there's only one source attached to it. The same applies to the song "Keep Me Going (Birdbrain)". Gdshordy (talk) 19:26, 19 August 2026 (UTC)
- Redirect as WP:ATD. Appears to be a classic case of WP:TOOSOON. I could only find the same one source. WidgetKid Converse 04:49, 20 August 2026 (UTC)
- Transdermal Celebration (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I propose redirecting to Quebec (album) because the topic fails WP:NSONG. It's not much a song; it didn't chart. Its main claim to fame is that Dean Ween used Carlos Santana's guitar equipment to perform the guitar solo on the song. Thin soup. That fact could be tucked into the album page without much fanfare, in a section talking about the recording process.
The cited sources are mostly talking about the song in the context of the album. A couple are interviews which don't add to notability. There is a distinct lack of WP:GNG requirements: two reliable sources going deep into the topic rather than mentioning it in passing. Binksternet (talk) 04:05, 19 August 2026 (UTC)
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- Regarding the reasoning for potential redirection, I have this to say:
- The song not charting is irrelevant, the notability argument is not for general popularity, rather it requires that the song itself has received significant media coverage. I believe this song has received sufficient coverage, though I possibly have shown that insufficiently so far.
- Regarding the story about the guitar, yes that is the most in depth section of the article, though there are other parts to it as well. I will trim down that section, and build up the other parts of it after doing more research.
- As for the sources discussing the song in the context of the album, I agree that much of the existing coverage does occur in the context of Quebec. However, I believe the relevant distinction is whether a source merely mentions the song as part of a discussion of the album, or whether it provides substantive discussion of the song itself. The sources currently cited do contain discussion specifically concerning the song, rather than simply mentioning it as one of the album's tracks. With that said, I do see how they could do insufficiently in that regard, and I will put research into this topic in the coming days to find more specific and in-depth sources to use in the article.
- I will also revise the article so that its content more accurately reflects the breadth of the available coverage rather than focusing disproportionately on the Santana equipment story. Maxington2007 (talk) 04:34, 19 August 2026 (UTC)
- Redirect to Quebec (album) due to failing WP:NSONG. It's a funny story, but doesn't make the song significant.
Here's my take on the current sources. WidgetKid Converse 21:10, 19 August 2026 (UTC)
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- @John B123: I noticed you just marked this as reviewed, so I assume you're for keeping it? Can you share your notability rationale? Thanks! WidgetKid Converse 04:42, 20 August 2026 (UTC)
- Articles that are sent to AfD are routinely marked as reviewed as the community will effectively review the article by the outcome. John B123 (talk) 08:04, 20 August 2026 (UTC)
- Ah, I didn't realize that. Thanks @John B123. WidgetKid Converse 21:43, 20 August 2026 (UTC)
- Articles that are sent to AfD are routinely marked as reviewed as the community will effectively review the article by the outcome. John B123 (talk) 08:04, 20 August 2026 (UTC)
- Salaam (song) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I propose redirecting because Mosh Ben-Ari it doesn't have any SIGCOV. I couldn't find any SIGCOV in Google Books in English or Hebrew. In Hebrew, Google Scholar showed no results and in English it didn't show any SIGCOV. There was a probably unreliable outlet in English. Any coverage could easily be merged into the artist's page, scarce coverage seems to make it fail WP:NOPAGE. HerrHeulsuse (talk) 18:37, 16 August 2026 (UTC)
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- Delete - I agree with the nominator's reasoning completely, as the song is only visible in the usual streaming and retail directories. See also WP:NOTLYRICS. I found one minor website discussing the song: , and that's about it. However, I recommend against a redirect because it is unlikely that someone will search for the exact phrase "Salaam (song)". The existence of Salaam (disambiguation) shows that there are so many relevant articles that redirects connected to this non-notable song could cause unnecessary confusion. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 13:45, 17 August 2026 (UTC)
- Keep. This is one of the most famous Israeli folk songs and has been covered repeatedly since its release, meeting WP:NSONG. As a sampling of how RS describe its influence in the decades hence: Described in a 2022 book as "one of the most famous of" Israeli popular and folk music about hope for the future, ranked by Tablet magazine in 2010 as one of the top 100 greatest Jewish songs and called "one of the most popular anthems for peace," called a peace anthem by the Jewish Telegraphic Agency in 2024, labeled in 2013 by scholar Arnold Eisen as "the title of the anthem of the Israeli peace movement", described in 2004 by Nigel Savage as "this generation's [Jewish] anthem", said by The Forward in 2002 as a "recent hit...deserves a place in the liturgy" among others. Repeatedly performed at presidential welcome ceremonies and major rallies. Longhornsg (talk) 21:19, 17 August 2026 (UTC)
- I don't think the 2022 book that you mention is a reliable source. Its purpose is not to objectively study anything, but to spread a belief in god. I could not access all the other sources you mention, but those which I could, I can determine that the coverage is not WP:SIGNIFICANT. Being played at big events is not an established way of proving notability HerrHeulsuse (talk) 07:33, 18 August 2026 (UTC)
- The National Library of Israel:
the song "Salam" was one of the most commercially successful songs released in Israel in those years. The song has since become an Israeli folk song that is sung in youth movements, at many official ceremonies, and at various dances.
. - A contemporary retrospective from ATmag (one of the biggest media brands in Israel):
In 1997, Ben Ari wrote and composed the song "Salam" from the album, which was considered the band's biggest hit at the time. The song "Salam" was translated into many languages and was performed many times around the world.
- Subject in a career retrospective in Ynet in 2025
- The National Library of Israel:
- Taken together with the sources above, there are multiple RS -- across decades and continents -- providing independent evidence of the song's commercial success, enduring cultural significance, and widespread use. The fact that the song has repeatedly been performed at major public events is not, by itself, what establishes notability, but rather, it is corroborating evidence of the broader significance. Longhornsg (talk) 16:29, 19 August 2026 (UTC)
- I don't think the 2022 book that you mention is a reliable source. Its purpose is not to objectively study anything, but to spread a belief in god. I could not access all the other sources you mention, but those which I could, I can determine that the coverage is not WP:SIGNIFICANT. Being played at big events is not an established way of proving notability HerrHeulsuse (talk) 07:33, 18 August 2026 (UTC)
- Keep per Longhornsg (talk · contribs) who cities enough WP:N and WP:RS reasons. IZAK (talk) 19:40, 19 August 2026 (UTC)
- Keep per sources identified above. It'd be great if they got added to the article, too. WidgetKid Converse 07:10, 20 August 2026 (UTC)
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The result was keep. SNOW has come early this year. (non-admin closure) UpTheOctave! • 8va? 00:59, 22 August 2026 (UTC)
- Surfin' U.S.A. (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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"Sweet Little Sixteen" and "Surfin' U.S.A." are very much the same song. The Beach Boys used Berry's exact same riff, chord progression, song structure, and refrain orbiting around US geography. All they changed, the way I see it, is the guitar sound, instrumentation, vocal harmonies, and resolution in the chorus. If "Mbube" and "The Lion Sleeps Tonight" form part of the same article—all the Tokens did, really, is sample Linda's improvised harmony at the recording's end (and the theme of a lion, perhaps)—then these two rock classics should, too. I invite anyone interested to listen to the songs—both good songs in their own right, I think—and reflect on how much the Beach Boys' track owed to Berry.
I believe the law is on my side: according to the "Reasons to merge articles", two articles warrant marriage into one if they overlap in scope... and these two songs converge greatly on anything music-related. The article on "Sufin' U.S.A." also needs much reference to Berry's song to give readers ample context. And... I don't think the resulting article would be too long. DannyRogers800 (talk) 16:17, 15 August 2026 (UTC)
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- Keep - both songs are independently notable. Guidance like "listen to both songs and judge how similar they are" is openly encouraging the use of original research as a rationale for merging article, which is a huge no-no. How much an editor perceives likeness of two songs has no bearing on the status of their Wikipedia articles. Sergecross73 msg me 17:59, 15 August 2026 (UTC)
- Okay, that makes sense. I don't really know if the literature on these two songs treats them as one. Thank you for taking part in this. DannyRogers800 (talk) 19:16, 15 August 2026 (UTC)
- Keep - but do the reliable sources treat these two songs as the same song? It doesn't matter what our opinion is on that issue, but what sources say. They both seem to be notable songs individually. purringmaggot (talk) 18:55, 15 August 2026 (UTC)
- Comment I don't know if I'm supposed to comment on my own nomination, but I have a question about the "independent notability" measure, more as an expression of curiosity than an attempt to sway the vote. Linda's "Mbube" and the Tokens' "The Lion Sleeps Tonight" are notable on their own, yet they form one article on Wikipedia. Why's that? DannyRogers800 (talk) 20:18, 15 August 2026 (UTC)
- There isn't really a clear rule for this, and there are examples of doing it both ways for similar cases -- e.g. "Ue o Muite Arukō" and "Sukiyaki" are covered in one article, whereas "Comme d'habitude" and "My Way" have separate articles. In the case of "The Lion Sleeps Tonight", even the very first revision of the article covered both songs, so it's always been structured that way. Adam Sampson (talk) 00:37, 16 August 2026 (UTC)
- Wow, I wasn't expecting that explanation. Cool. DannyRogers800 (talk) 07:09, 16 August 2026 (UTC)
- There isn't really a clear rule for this, and there are examples of doing it both ways for similar cases -- e.g. "Ue o Muite Arukō" and "Sukiyaki" are covered in one article, whereas "Comme d'habitude" and "My Way" have separate articles. In the case of "The Lion Sleeps Tonight", even the very first revision of the article covered both songs, so it's always been structured that way. Adam Sampson (talk) 00:37, 16 August 2026 (UTC)
- Keep. Despite using the same melody, I think Surfin' U.S.A. is notable and distinct enough to have its own article. There is a chapter of a book Good Vibrations: Brian Wilson and the Beach Boys in Critical Perspective, that discusses the song in great detail , and also in the book The Beach Boys Smile , and I am sure many other sources like The Guardian . Aude (talk) 00:22, 16 August 2026 (UTC)
- Keep/Oppose Merge - Even though the Beach Boys appropriated almost all of Chuck's song, their version is still easily notable in its own right. The "Surfin' U.S.A." article already says several times that Chuck's song was appropriated and that is sufficient. I also think that the combined article for "Mbube" and "The Lion Sleeps Tonight" is a less-common exception. There are lots of notable songs that appropriated most of a previous notable song, especially in blues, early rock, and rap. Even "U Can't Touch This" and "Super Freak" have their own separate articles. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 15:24, 16 August 2026 (UTC)
- Keep - the lyrics are certainly different, even if the "only" differences in the music are "the guitar sound, instrumentation, vocal harmonies, and resolution in the chorus." And as noted by others, these are treated as 2 distinct songs by reliable sources. Rlendog (talk) 21:18, 16 August 2026 (UTC)
- Keep - I feel like calling these songs "very much the same song" is a Giant exaggeration. pretty much anyone could hear the two songs and tell between the two of them. Brian Wilson had a different lick for the intro (think it's from yet ANOTHER Chuck Berry song but whatever), added tons of new vocal harmony arrangements, changed the drum rhythm from the old rock and roll swing to the early 60s kinda shuffle beat, altered the chorus and lyrics, and more things that'd be too long to note down in ways that make his cover pretty distinct and enjoyable and overall pretty distinct from the mid 50s kind of rock and roll swing.
- in terms of Info, the song also came out in a different era to become a pretty substantial hit in its own right, and was one of the beginning instances of a trend of 60s rock and roll bands who followed in chuck's footsteps paying tribute to him. including them on the same article would therefore just be confusing and unnecessary.
- so yeah, for that reason, even though Yeah you could pretty easily call it a glorified cover of sweet little sixteen, the context it came out in and the song itself are distinct enough to warrant being seen as separate kind of entities, even if they are like cute little sibling songs.
- otherwise, youd be getting WAYY carried away arguing that songs like "I Got a Woman" and "Gold Digger" should have their articles glued together (!!!!!!) KayvK (talk) 19:25, 17 August 2026 (UTC)
- Thank you for making this argument. But I don't think it's proper to call the two songs "cute little siblings" when one remembers how much, and how grossly, black music and artistry was stolen by white mainstream musicians at the time. The Beach Boys very nearly avoided crediting Berry at all. One wouldn't call Led Zeppelin's "Whole Lotta Love" and Muddy Waters' "You Need Love" cute siblings.... DannyRogers800 (talk) 19:47, 17 August 2026 (UTC)
- Keep I'm thinking this is a WP:SNOW easy keep. — Very Polite Person (talk/contribs) 01:04, 19 August 2026 (UTC)
- Keep due to WP:ALLTHETHINGS wrong with the proposal argument. This is nonsense. 04:17, 19 August 2026 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Widgetkid (talk • contribs)
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- Build God, Then We'll Talk (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I would have just tried redirecting this, but I have a feeling it would have been met with resistance and/or controversy. Look, I love this song and its parent album, but I have not been able to uncover actual coverage of the song in sources and it has maintenance banners for verifiability, one of them almost two decades old.
None of the article's five total references talk about its content or creation, and three of them are simply present for the purposes of credits. The song didn't chart at all, and a gold record doesn't automatically qualify for an article. If this article had SIGCOV in online sources nearer to its release - which I hope it didn't, because that would be tragic - it would seem like none survive. As time went on, it didn't gain much to help it; I was able to find only one usable source from Rock Sound. mftp dan oops 04:27, 15 August 2026 (UTC)
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- Redirect to A Fever You Can't Sweat Out. Fuck, I don't want to do this, but the rationale is correct. Panic! was (and still kind-of is) a band I wanted to start writing about when I got through My Chemical Romance shenanigans. I've done source searches for many songs... and I honestly don't know how many Panic at the Disco songs are actually notable. This is one of those songs I've looked into and I just don't think it's notable. The coverage about the song is insanely limited. Yes, the song was certified gold, as were many others. That does not confer notability entirely on its own when there's a major significant coverage drought. NSONG says that charts or certifications could help make a song notable, but not that it actually does; enough coverage to build a detailed, well sources article is still required (see my explanatory essay, WP:NOTNSONG). Even then, commercial performance here would be a tough sell to argue notability for when, as far as I am aware, it had no major chart impact (let alone chart activity at all). The article and Panic! at the Disco discography don't list any chart activity for the song. And there are countless songs that crawled their way to a certification after a decade or more but remain non-notable. And you know things are even more dire when not even MTV at the time bothered to give the song anything at all (this is all MTV had to say about the song, from my searches. Literally only one sentence). So... yeah, I have to agree to redirect here. λ NegativeMP1 05:12, 15 August 2026 (UTC)
- Redirect to the parent album. I also can find no SIGCOV from reliable sources; all I could find from back in the day was routine coverage of the single's release and music video (1, 2, 3), which I am pretty certain do not help in any argument for notability. The song is not notable without any sources to back it up, as much as I, too, like it. smallest red boyhe/she/it (talk • contribs) 05:13, 15 August 2026 (UTC)
- Redirect to A Fever You Can't Sweat Out. Some (albeit VERY minimal) SIGCOV regarding Build God here, but that's really about it. This song is ultimately dry regarding its coverage, and redirecting would probably be the best solution. Gavetheman555 (talk) 18:00, 15 August 2026 (UTC)
- Comment: Wasn't expecting anything from a Google Scholar search, but turned up this WP:THESIS with a pretty extensive writeup and literary analysis of the song's structure and lyrics from pages 114-122. Not too sure about it as a source as I'm not very familiar with the criteria used to analyze this kind of source, but worth considering. bnuuy ‖ 🐇💬 ‖ 20:41, 19 August 2026 (UTC)
- Outside of that, I've pulled up the old MTV archives and found this article with a few paragraphs about the song and it's music video and this with a few more. It's not particularly deep coverage, but it's something. I think I'd still have a weak lean toward redirect, but would like to hear what others think. bnuuy ‖ 🐇💬 ‖ 20:55, 19 August 2026 (UTC)
- If only MTV still had its archives easily accessible, it might not be such a pain to actually go digging for enough coverage. Like I said, I think surviving coverage is unavailable. mftp dan oops 12:31, 20 August 2026 (UTC)
- I think I have to agree to Redirect this one after thinking on it. There might be enough coverage to technically meet WP:GNG, but just because it can have a standalone article doesn't mean it should and what's been presented here would make for a pretty barebones article after cutting out the unsourced material and apparent WP:OR in the current version. bnuuy ‖ 🐇💬 ‖ 23:57, 20 August 2026 (UTC)
- If only MTV still had its archives easily accessible, it might not be such a pain to actually go digging for enough coverage. Like I said, I think surviving coverage is unavailable. mftp dan oops 12:31, 20 August 2026 (UTC)
- Outside of that, I've pulled up the old MTV archives and found this article with a few paragraphs about the song and it's music video and this with a few more. It's not particularly deep coverage, but it's something. I think I'd still have a weak lean toward redirect, but would like to hear what others think. bnuuy ‖ 🐇💬 ‖ 20:55, 19 August 2026 (UTC)
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The result was redirect to Sharon, Lois & Bram discography. (non-admin closure) UpTheOctave! • 8va? 00:54, 22 August 2026 (UTC)
- Mainly Mother Goose (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I propose redirecting to Sharon, Lois & Bram discography because the album lacks independent notability; no additional sources were found. Haz215 (talk) 09:31, 14 August 2026 (UTC)
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- Redirect per nom. Trumpetrep (talk) 15:55, 14 August 2026 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BhikhariInformer 📮 (Ping me or else I won't see it) 11:36, 21 August 2026 (UTC) - I agree with the redirect. Alazar202 (talk) 11:57, 21 August 2026 (UTC)
- Redirect to the artists page. SenshiSun (talk) 17:41, 21 August 2026 (UTC)
- Redirect to Sharon, Lois & Bram discography per Haz215. No independent coverage of the album itself was found. Onatic (talk) 18:20, 21 August 2026 (UTC)
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The result was redirect to Sharon, Lois & Bram discography. (non-admin closure) UpTheOctave! • 8va? 00:54, 22 August 2026 (UTC)
- Songs in the Key of Kids (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I propose redirecting to Sharon, Lois & Bram discography because the album lacks independent notability; no additional sources were found. Haz215 (talk) 09:35, 14 August 2026 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BhikhariInformer 📮 (Ping me or else I won't see it) 11:36, 21 August 2026 (UTC) - I had this tape! Redirect. There's nothing notable about a compilation of children's classics. SenshiSun (talk) 17:42, 21 August 2026 (UTC)
- Redirect to Sharon, Lois & Bram discography per Haz215. No standalone coverage of the album; the discography entry is the right weight. Onatic (talk) 18:22, 21 August 2026 (UTC)
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- A Kid's Point of View (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I propose redirecting to Dijon Prioleau because the album lacks sufficient independent notability (and to be honest, he seems to be on the borderline himself). Haz215 (talk) 10:04, 14 August 2026 (UTC)
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- Comment I note this was AfD'd in 2007, with no consensus forming (though a majority of votes were to delete). Haz215 (talk) 11:38, 14 August 2026 (UTC)
- Keep. This could have been done as a bold merge based on how little activity this page gets, but since it's being discussed it seems clear that the album passes WP:NALBUM with multiple independent full-length reviews, the addition of which during the 2007 AfD drove the closer's assessment of no consensus (since most "deletes" came before the sources were proposed). Unsure why this nomination was brought without engagement with the reviews already in the article. Dclemens1971 (talk) 10:56, 16 August 2026 (UTC)
- I did engage with the reviews already in the article. Bye bye. Haz215 (talk) 11:34, 16 August 2026 (UTC)
- by which to say, I wouldn't consider two reviews from well-written but fairly minor sites to be 'significant coverage', though I'd be open to hearing opposing arguments. If AllMusic isn't considered a consistently reliable source, which it isn't, then I don't think these should be either. So that's a grand total of two reviews from non-top tier sources.
- Haz215 (talk) 11:38, 16 August 2026 (UTC)
- Both sources appear to have (or to have had at the time of publication) editorial staff and to be independent of the subjects they cover. They may not be Rolling Stone, but NMUSIC doesn't require reviews to be in Rolling Stone. And you didn't address the reviews in your previous comments at all, which is why I pointed it out, or indicate whether you did a BEFORE search. Commenting dismissively toward those who participate in discussions you start (
Bye bye
) is unproductive. Dclemens1971 (talk) 11:52, 16 August 2026 (UTC)
- Both sources appear to have (or to have had at the time of publication) editorial staff and to be independent of the subjects they cover. They may not be Rolling Stone, but NMUSIC doesn't require reviews to be in Rolling Stone. And you didn't address the reviews in your previous comments at all, which is why I pointed it out, or indicate whether you did a BEFORE search. Commenting dismissively toward those who participate in discussions you start (
- I did engage with the reviews already in the article. Bye bye. Haz215 (talk) 11:34, 16 August 2026 (UTC)
- Weak keep. There are two reviews, and I don't see any arguments about them being unreliable. Ping me if this changes. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:29, 17 August 2026 (UTC)
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- An Appointed Time (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I propose redirecting to Witness (Gospel quartet) because the album is insufficiently notable and I have not beem able to find extra sources to establish notability. Haz215 (talk) 08:42, 14 August 2026 (UTC)
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- Redirect to Witness (Gospel quartet) per Haz215. The album lacks independent WP:SIGCOV. Onatic (talk) 18:29, 21 August 2026 (UTC)
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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) UpTheOctave! • 8va? 00:53, 22 August 2026 (UTC)
- The Hawk of Lebanon (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The article fails WP:SUSTAINED, WP:SIGCOV, and WP:NOTNEWS. The third reference is an opinion commentary piece (WP:OPINION). Sakiv (talk) 00:15, 5 August 2026 (UTC)
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- Keep. Meets WP:GNG. In-depth WP:SIGCOV of the song across international media, including NPR, NBC News, Jerusalem Post, UPI, AlJazeera English. Longhornsg (talk) 03:04, 5 August 2026 (UTC)
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- Keep and expand Deserves to have its own page. NavjotSR (talk) 05:50, 8 August 2026 (UTC)
- Delete - everyone should know that we are not a soapbox and we are not Grokpedia. Nothing "deserves" an article on Wikipedia. Bearian (talk) 10:05, 9 August 2026 (UTC)
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- Keep. Song received international press coverage in mainstream media. Passes WP:GNG based on the sourcing identified by Longhornsg. @Longhornsg: Mind adding these to the page?4meter4 (talk) 13:39, 12 August 2026 (UTC)
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:Weak Keep Seems to be a notable topic after searching for addtional sources MasterRayvis (talk) 00:48, 20 August 2026 (UTC) Note: MasterRayvis was not extended-confirmed. This comment is ineligible under the ARBPIA restriction. Sakiv (talk) 20:19, 20 August 2026 (UTC)
- Keep per multiple sources, especially those identified by @Longhornsg. The nomination mentions WP:SUSTAINED, but that criteria is not relevant for a song. Mariamnei ✦ reach out 🕊️ 06:14, 20 August 2026 (UTC)
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I initially replaced the page with a redirect to Snoop's album discography because the case for it seemed so open-and-shut, but it was quickly reverted for "no consensus". The editor recommended to take this to AFD, so that's what I'm doing. Only sources I was able to find on the current state of the article and Google are PR pieces and news articles, and the few, ahem, reviews I was able to find were one from Revolt that seemed AI-generated, and another from Ratings Game Music, which appears to be a blog where you can submit your own music for review. The one chart position is already mentioned in a note on the discography page, so there is really no purpose for this article being around. User:The Artist Formerly Known as Prince Albert in a Can (Better let the poor guy party like it's 1999) 17:47, 3 August 2026 (UTC)
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- Draftify - This appears to be a proper album release by an extraordinarily notable artist, nearly all of whose other albums have their own stand-alone pages, suggesting this one likely will warrant one as well. It could use some work before being published, though. WilsonP NYC (talk) 20:33, 3 August 2026 (UTC)
- The artist being notable doesn't mean the album is. If there is more actual source coverage to prove this album's notability and make the article long enough, the article can easily be recreated. User:The Artist Formerly Known as Prince Albert in a Can (Better let the poor guy party like it's 1999) 21:04, 3 August 2026 (UTC)
- In addition to inherited notability not being a thing in general (meaning a notable artist's albums are not notable just because they are by a notable artist), the notability of other albums does not establish notability for this album. Albums, like anything else, are deemed notable on their own individual merits only, and nothing else. (No opinion on if this is the case here at all.) WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 21:41, 3 August 2026 (UTC)
- Indeed, hence the recommendation to return it to draft status. Notability has not yet been established in this current version. But deletion seems pointless given likely notability going forward, and someone has done us the favor of listing out the tracks and providing info and so on. WilsonP NYC (talk) 15:37, 4 August 2026 (UTC)
- In addition to inherited notability not being a thing in general (meaning a notable artist's albums are not notable just because they are by a notable artist), the notability of other albums does not establish notability for this album. Albums, like anything else, are deemed notable on their own individual merits only, and nothing else. (No opinion on if this is the case here at all.) WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 21:41, 3 August 2026 (UTC)
- The artist being notable doesn't mean the album is. If there is more actual source coverage to prove this album's notability and make the article long enough, the article can easily be recreated. User:The Artist Formerly Known as Prince Albert in a Can (Better let the poor guy party like it's 1999) 21:04, 3 August 2026 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: So are there sources that support a standalone or should we be considering a redirect?
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