Slatersteven

Your revert on Reza Pahlavi, Crown Prince of Iran

Hi--

Could you explain your revert? Is it because of content or unclear wording?

If it's because of content, it's backed up by the sources and should remain, if it's because of wording it can be fixed. Thank you Razgura (talk) 14:18, 12 January 2026 (UTC)

The place for this discussion is the article talk page, and my edit summary explains my objection. Slatersteven (talk) 14:19, 12 January 2026 (UTC)

Slatersteven, I find your response contradictory and severely lacking in internal consistency. During our previous discussion regarding the Satanic panic article, you left a thread on my user talk page regarding the dispute. This is despite the fact that on the satanic panic talk page, there is no recent and non-archived discussion. During the discussion on my user page, I repeatedly suggested creating a thread on the satanic panic talk page. While you are under no obligation to do this, this is a typical process for dispute resolution and is required. You stated "As to why here, becasue I am talking about Your actions." How does this rationale not apply to this thread? Either you have a problem with people reaching out regarding disputes on talk pages, or you don't. I will assume good faith, but this gives the appearance of someone who objects to other people contacting them on their personal talk page, but has no problem doing the same to other users. I humbly ask that you reflect on this dichotomy And basically " pick a side".

In line with previous discussions regarding your reverts, I still don't understand the meaning of "Were they in response to his call, orm was he resposnsing to them?". I say this in a genuine way, not to insult, but I feel many users are unable to understand the intended meaning of your edit summaries. The revert removes sources that were added by @Razgura. What is your objection to these sources? I genuinely believe the onus is on you to at least create a new talk page topic And discuss why you believe it appropriate to remove those sources. Your edit summary simply doesn't touch on that. This message is meant to be helpful, and state my case, which in past cases, other editors have agreed with me. On Wikipedia, we seek consensus on article talk pages. The onus is on you to explain why you reverted something In a relatively detailed And unambiguous manner. InvisibleUser909 (talk) 20:12, 22 January 2026 (UTC)

Read WP:ONUS it is down to those who want to make a change to get wp:consensus. Slatersteven (talk) 10:12, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

I Believe your understanding of the two policies you cited is non-orthodox. You have to justify your reverts. You cannot revert for no reason. When you don't create a talk page thread, when you have been asked to make a talk page thread, when you have a double standard between others, user pages and your user page, it can appear as though reverts are happening for no reason and are not constructive. You seem to be under the impression that literally any change to an article has to be backed up by consensus and it would seem for every edit you would want somebody to create a talk page thread. This is not how Wikipedia works. You are the one reverting. You are the one creating the dispute. You must provide a justification that other editors can understand for a revert. I strongly suggest you review Help:Reverting, Especially this passage.

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It is becoming increasingly clear that you are not abiding by this, again, I will assume good faith. Your justifications are brief and I do not believe they qualify as well reasoned. You need to address the central point, you need to provide an argument as to why those sources deserve to be reverted. You are an experienced editor. I feel you should have a clue by now. Your opinion, which I understand as that you believe it is within policy to revert complex edits with one sentence justification, and that the user who you reverted has the onus of creating a talk page. This account is new, but I am not new to Wikipedia. This is my only active account BTW. Please feel free to correct my understanding, but my view is that your opinion is not widely shared among editors and I believe it to be a fringe interpretation of policy. Please try to consider a new perspective. Ask the people you are reverting If they agree with your interpretation of policy. Thank you. InvisibleUser909 (talk) 16:17, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

You cannot give a complex answer in an edit summary. As such it is down to those who want to include content to make the case, not down to those who want to exclude it. Slatersteven (talk) 16:23, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

Yes you absolutely can. I would like you to spend more than 6 minutes considering my argument and refute my central point re: Help:Reverting. 2 sentences cannot even address half of my arguments. First of all, your edit message can absolutely be more clear and coherent than "Were they in response to his call, orm was he resposnsing to them". Your response is 66 characters and does not make any sense in the context of the original edit or your revert. You have up to 500 characters to explain your argument. You barely used 10% of the available space For a sentence that is frankly incomprehensible. You still haven't explained what you meant by that edit summary. I can only assume good faith for so long, you know about the hierarchy of disagreement. You are on the level of contradiction because you have not provided a coherent argument as to why the revert should happen, only that the onus is on the editor To seek consensus for the change, even though Help:Reverting clearly requires You to create a well-reasoned justification. What is your problem with creating a talk page thread to discuss your reverts? Is 5 minutes of time writing a justification really too much for you? Please provide a justification for why the edit was reverted, try to wait at least 10 minutes before you read this before responding, because it's increasingly appearing as though the revert happened for no reason. In order to continue to discuss in good faith, I really want you to refute my central points, or at least say that you are not capable of doing such. Otherwise, it's very difficult for me to assume we are discussing in good faith and it feels like I am playing the fool. InvisibleUser909 (talk) 16:33, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

I am not going to discuss my objections to that edit here, I have said take it to the article talk page. My summary was clear, I disagree with the edit interpretation of events. That will be my sole explanation here. Slatersteven (talk) 16:38, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

And why do I have to explain myself to you, its was not your edit I reverted, you have not even made edits to that page. Slatersteven (talk) 16:42, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

You don't seem to understand this. Before, when you reverted the edit, this was a disagreement between two people. That is one to one. Everything you do on Wikipedia is public. Now, the disagreement is two to one, because someone else has chipped in. The onus is on you to justify your revert. Do I need to revert your revert for you to see that I am involved in this dispute? Oh wait, I can't, because you undid so much That it can't be automatically undone at this point in time. Everyone's opinion is valuable so long as it can be logically justified. Your responses are brief and do not address the central point. Many, many people have come onto your user talk page to express this to you. You appear indifferent. You keep reverting people's edits, leaving a one sentence justification that doesn't make much sense, Then during a discussion, you just reply with one to three sentences. Who else is on the side of " actually I can revert anything I want, I just have to type in "Were they in response to his call, orm was he resposnsing to them?' That's not even a justification. That's just a question. A justification would state why why you are removing sources from sky news and iranintl. The edit summary seems to make it seem like you don't understand the subject and are asking a question. Anybody can join any side of a dispute on Wikipedia. And it's very clea the purpose of my communication is genuine concerns regarding your edits. InvisibleUser909 (talk) 16:54, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

I said what my objection was, I have repeated it here, take it to the article's talk page or stop posting about it. I will not be responding to you about it here. Slatersteven (talk) 17:00, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

And I sugest you read WP:HARRASMENT. Slatersteven (talk) 17:02, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

Don't accuse me of harassment. I'm allowed to participate in discussions on your talk page. We're entering bad faith territory here. As I previously stated

And it's very clear the purpose of my communication is genuine concerns regarding your edits

That is not, and is never harassment, unless I was to be somehow disrupting your enjoyment of Wikipedia. I have been incredibly civil throughout this. Please read the article

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Hounding: requires " is with an apparent aim of creating irritation, annoyance, or distress to the other editor."

Harassment: "making threats, repeated annoying and unwanted contacts, repeated personal attacks, intimidation, or posting personal information"

I do not look at your contributions. I do not watch any of your pages. I've looked at your user talk page a few times. Harassment doesn't apply when I've only contacted you a few times, I only found your users page because someone pinged me, and when I have genuine concerns about your reverts and your understanding of policy. Why don't you read Wikipedia:AOHA? Harassment is not " I keep making reverts that don't make sense and people discuss it on my user talk page". Your reply indicates that you've stopped perceiving me as acting in good faith. InvisibleUser909 (talk) 17:15, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

I did not accuse you of harassment; I asked you to read it. I have been blocked for harassment for doing exactly what you are doing, refusing to let a matter drop after being asked to, wp:badgering someone for them to answer your question in a way you want it answered. Now I have asked you to drop it, you are not going to get the answer you want here, and now you will get no answer from me here to any question, I have better things to do. Slatersteven (talk) 17:22, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

Well, for one thing, I think the accusation of badgering is at least acceptable, I would have appreciated if you had lead with that rather than harassment. You were blocked for edit warring for 1 day, 17 years ago. I disagree that I am badgering though. I will be taking this to the article page. When I re-read this it seems to follow This general direction rather than badgering. Elements of badgering include "arguing people into submission", requiring someone to say something to " satisfy" you, proof by assertion, making demands, policing viewpoints, etc. I haven't done amy of those things. The reason I emphasized the central point so much is because I see that as fundamental to how Wikipedia wants editors to conduct discussions. The diagram I sent is used in policy. It's something I always strive to do. You don't have any obligation to reply to anyone's thread including my own. However, when you do decide to engage in an argument, It is expected that you discuss to the best of your ability and meet a certain standard. I feel this is a universal expectation. I don't think this is productive. While I see it as very hypocritical that you don't want to have this discussion whilst having similar discussions on other's talk pages. There is no version dispute on the article, your changes stand. I feel I am allowed to commentate on and criticize your logic so long as things remain civil. I will refrain from further comments on your user page regarding this, my opinion is that you never substantially engaged with my argument and all I was trying to do was literally get a response from you that was more than a couple of sentences, I still don't understand if WP:onus/consensus Is your only justification for the revert and I still don't understand your edit message. I disagree with your characterization that this is also " refusing to let it drop", I feel that would apply much more in a case where both sides equally understand each other's argument. Refuting my central point is not a request for argument, it is genuinely a way of clarifying what you mean and what you believe. Had you not made the harassment comment, I wouldn't have replied when you said That you won't be responding And my previous reply would have been the last reply. You brought up harassment, I replied once, you bring up badgering, this is my last reply unless something outrageous is said. Please do better. InvisibleUser909 (talk) 18:22, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

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Hello fellow Wikipedian! I am not trying to spread pseudo science. I have kept everything that was there before (about heavy metal poisoning and the cancer cure). But to say that a 5000 year old medical system with mostly proven practices and whose unproven and unscientific practices are removed from modern use to be blatantly categorized as a pseudo-science is, I think, disrespectful to the billions of people who use it everyday in their life and have never had any problem with it.

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Kindly understand. SatoruVijnani (talk) 11:08, 4 May 2026 (UTC)

Also please look up Bachelor of Ayurvedic Medicine and Surgery (BAMS) degree SatoruVijnani (talk) 11:11, 4 May 2026 (UTC)

They offer degrees in all kinds of Rubbish. Slatersteven (talk) 11:13, 4 May 2026 (UTC)

Re: SPLC Talk Page/WP:BLUDGEON

Thanks for posting on my page in regards to contentious topics and WP:BLUDGEON. I read the the aforementioned policy per your recommendation. My understanding of the policy is that one has to excessively comment on a particular page to be in violation. I have commented about 9 times and you have commented about 23. Could you provide clarification on the specific section of the policy you wanted me to review?Redvelvetvanilaaaaaaaaa (talk) 19:00, 4 May 2026 (UTC)

No, its if you reply to every post in a specific thread. Slatersteven (talk) 19:01, 4 May 2026 (UTC)

Did I do that? Redvelvetvanilaaaaaaaaa (talk) 19:04, 4 May 2026 (UTC)

You seem to have been active in replying to me, and one other user. Slatersteven (talk) 19:10, 4 May 2026 (UTC)

Is being active on a talk page a violation of WP:BLUDGEON? Redvelvetvanilaaaaaaaaa (talk) 19:15, 4 May 2026 (UTC)

No, but making the same argument again and again to different users can be seen as trying to win by overwhelming the thread. Slatersteven (talk) 19:18, 4 May 2026 (UTC)

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Stop the disruptive editing...

You need to assume good faith here. I've attempted to be kind to you and I explained my rationale to you twice for my edits and explained why I used the source I did. There is no rationale for your removal of the content over at the UFO Sightings Wiki. As a gesture of good faith, I also supplied supporting citations from the national and local media that covered the sightings -- but you ignored that and deleted it again anyway. Then, you visit my talk page and WP:LETTER and accuse me of being disruptive which I have not been, make a thinly-veiled accusation that I "know the people involved with the incidents" (I don't and this is in violation of WP:FALLIBLE), and lecture me again on WP:RS when I'm well aware of the rules. Then you stalk the page I created (CARET Drone Incident) and decide to warn people that my "sources may not be acceptable or reliable" there, either. Then, on another talk page, you get into a pseudo-brigade discussion and accuse me of canvassing on "all the UFO pages" (again, in violation of WP:FALLIBLE). I posted it to TWO PAGES. That's it. That's NOT canvassing nor is it "all over the place". At this point, this is beginning to look like borderline WP:WIKIHOUNDING and WP:GAMING. Please stop this behavior. As I'm reading your talk page, you seem to have a history of trying to win arguments or bludgeon people to death and you've been blocked for your behavior in the past, something that's never happened to me here. That should tell you something. A failure to listen or comprehend what I've said does not justify your behavior. I concur with another user on your talk page: "be better". Thank you. LanaiGuy (talk) 20:04, 24 May 2026 (UTC)

Yes there is, policy such as wp:rs. Slatersteven (talk) 09:43, 25 May 2026 (UTC)

Just FYI, Shirt58 notified LanaiGuy about the ANI you accidentally opened for you. You probably want to either remove the notification or provide clarification. I can't get involved myself as LanaiGuy has banned me from their talkpage. Nil Einne (talk) 10:46, 27 May 2026 (UTC)

Also FWIW as far as I can tell, LanaiGuy has never said you accused them of making personal attacks. They've said I've accused them of making personal attacks which is correct. I did so because in my opinion they did at FTN. (Someone else at FTN pointed out the same thing.) That said, LanaiGuy does seem to be conflating different editors so I might have missed something. For example, they said I accused them of having a COI but I never did. I only said there was nothing wrong with you asking them if they had a COI as it's a regular thing here if editors seem to have an unusual interest in a topic. (I have no personal opinion on whether they have a COI, since I'm fairly uninvolved in the article in dispute. I also lost interest in the personal attack angle so have not been following it a great deal, since when investigating their contrib history I found something more serious.) Nil Einne (talk) 11:06, 27 May 2026 (UTC)

[], a direct reply to me " If you continue to accuse me of attacking you when I am not, then I will rethink things.". Slatersteven (talk) 11:09, 27 May 2026 (UTC)

They do seem to be talking all this very personally. Slatersteven (talk) 11:10, 27 May 2026 (UTC)

Sorry you're right. I missed that. I agree they're taking things very personally and misunderstanding what people are saying. For example re-reading what they said, I've realised now they've taken my comment "I don't give a damn whether you have a COI." to mean I was accusing them of having a COI, but it was not and I think anyone following the thread will likely have understood that. My point was I'd not evaluated the evidence for whether they had a COI as I didn't care, it was not relevant to what I was saying. If they didn't have a COI, that's perfectly fine, they could have dealt with it the same way that the plenty of editors who are asked if they have a COI deal with it, by saying no I don't and moving on rather than taking such offence to the question and saying it was a personal attack/casting aspersions to ask. But they didn't seem to understand any of that. Nil Einne (talk) 11:18, 27 May 2026 (UTC)

Anyway I'll probably stop here. I thought I'd trey help reduce confusion but in doing so have gotten more involved than I intended. Given their request, I feel it best not to talk about them anymore with the exceptions of the ANs. Nil Einne (talk) 11:24, 27 May 2026 (UTC)

Decided to break my word to say one final thing. I'm now fairly certain LanaiGuy doesn't have a COI regarding CARET. So while I can understand why you might have been concerned, if you still are I'd just forget it even putting aside their abandoning the topic. Nil Einne (talk) 12:05, 27 May 2026 (UTC)

That was not what I was going to report them for. Slatersteven (talk) 12:35, 27 May 2026 (UTC)t

Kirk conspiracy theory RS

Hey Slater, saw you reverted the Charlie Kirk conspiracy theory label, can you provide me enough RS labelling him that to be considered wide-spread accepted? As stated I know he held some conspiracy theory views but I can't recall any reliable sourcing actually labeling him an actual conspiracy theorist outside of more WP:RSOPINION pieces. MaximusEditor (talk) 15:03, 27 May 2026 (UTC)

They are already in the article; we have a whole section on it. Slatersteven (talk) 15:10, 27 May 2026 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Move review/Log/2026 May#Persecution of transgender people under the second Trump administration

Hi, there is a move review underway relevant to a discussion you were recently involved in. Link above. Thanks. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 19:50, 27 May 2026 (UTC)

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Your revert on the Highgate Vampire

Hello, I made an edit in the Highgate Vampire page, but it was reverted because it may have been lacking reliable sources. I've found two other sources which support the idea that the character Silas is indeed a vampire, and that the cemetery from the book is based (also) on Highgate Cemetery. Here are the two sources (the second four e is a pdf, since the original page doesn't appear on the website anymore): https://www.scifinow.co.uk/interviews/interview-neil-gaiman-2/ https://netmouse.com/me/portfolio/Neil_Gaiman_Graveyard_Book_Interview.pdf I hope we can reach an agreement over whether to re-add my edit on the page. Have a good day Pannkale (talk) 12:48, 18 June 2026 (UTC)

The place to take this is the articles task page, however, read wp:v. Slatersteven (talk) 13:03, 18 June 2026 (UTC)

Consider moving your comment

Hello Slatersteven, I think Bobbobet is correct that your "Care about wiki" top-level header is disrupting the flow of the ANI page. Would you consider moving your comment (and the replies to it) to an existing section? I think it's functionally a reply to "My defense (statement by Larry Sanger)". Procedurally, you can include a reply to Bobbobet explaining that you are doing so, to make the change 'make sense'. Thanks. ~ le 🌸 valyn (talk) 19:20, 22 June 2026 (UTC)

"Get a job you basement dweller"

I love when vandals say this. At least we're contributing to something worthwhile here, LOL toby ^(t)(rw) 17:29, 26 June 2026 (UTC)

I also don't have a celler. Slatersteven (talk) 17:30, 26 June 2026 (UTC)

Operation Amistad

Please create a new page on Operation Amistad, Indian relief response to recent deadly Venezuela earthquakes (1)https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/india-launches-operation-amistad-for-earthquake-hit-venezuela-june-26-2026/article71152657.ece

(2)https://www.financialexpress.com/india-news/operation-amistad-india-sends-relief-material-to-earthquake-hit-venezuela-24-nations-join-rescue-effort/4278293/

(3)https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/operation-amistad-indian-assistance-reaches-venezuela-after-massive-earthquake-devastation-101782625683542.html

you can add more sources if you want ~2026-34962-26 (talk) 12:16, 28 June 2026 (UTC)

Why>? A lot of nations have sent aid, but why is India special? Slatersteven (talk) 12:43, 28 June 2026 (UTC)

Just chatting

I'm not deep into Ripper-lore, but I loved Babylon 5:s take: . Also glad I saw From hell after LOTR, I think Bilbo would have been ruined for me otherwise. Luckily I didn't notice he was Ash from Alien as well. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:56, 1 July 2026 (UTC)

I like the B-5 ripper too (factual errors aside, it is fiction). From Hell was pretty much crap, but I just found it so forgettable I cannot even remember who was in it. A much better take is Murder by Decree (rubbish though the actual theory is). Slatersteven (talk) 10:00, 1 July 2026 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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		This is for all your contributions to the English Wikipedia since 2007, especially your contributions to President Trump page. I now understand that my edit reverted by you in that page was not notable enough to be included in such a high level article. Pachu Kannan (talk) 10:45, 3 July 2026 (UTC)

Assassination of Charlie Kirk

I have reverted one of of your edits, here. It seems that you removed my edit without giving a proper reason. If you can provide one, I would be happy. Morris (talk with this worm) 14:14, 6 July 2026 (UTC)

No I gave one "This was rejected", you had asked to make the change (well a change) and I had said no, As such, you need to get consensus from otehr editors. Slatersteven (talk) 14:20, 6 July 2026 (UTC)

I wish I could but someone archived the section I created. I have no idea why they did it, though many suggestions come into my head. Morris (talk with this worm) 14:32, 6 July 2026 (UTC)

They said why. Slatersteven (talk) 14:33, 6 July 2026 (UTC)

Either way, "This was rejected" has nothing to do with you reverting my edit. You have to give at least a good reason for removing edit except the fact that you "did not like it". Morris (talk with this worm) 14:33, 6 July 2026 (UTC)

You were aware it had not achieved consensus, and still did it. Your edit had been rejected before you made it. Slatersteven (talk) 14:36, 6 July 2026 (UTC)

You are failing to answer my question. Yes I know that you replied "No" in that section. But I have been bold while editing. If you are reverting it, I expect an explanation as to why are you reverting the edit. Because until this point it is still your personal opinion. Morris (talk with this worm) 14:40, 6 July 2026 (UTC)

And I gave you one, you did not have consensus, and knew it. Slatersteven (talk) 14:42, 6 July 2026 (UTC)

I guess you may not say that "It was my personal opinion and I dont like your edit and etc". Attribution for advocacy group should be necessery because it clarifies who is collecting those data. My reason to edit is to make it clear who is publishing those data. What is your reason, except your POV, for your edits? Morris (talk with this worm) 14:50, 6 July 2026 (UTC)

I susgest you stop now before you violate wp:npa any more. And read what I said in the thread above yours, and do not presume to know my POV. Slatersteven (talk) 14:55, 6 July 2026 (UTC)

When an editor voilates WP:NPA? I am new here and I just need to know. Morris (talk with this worm) 15:03, 6 July 2026 (UTC)

Then read it, and read wp:agf, you do not get to dismiss editor's concerns over what YOU think their POV is. My reason is and was "obey the rules". Slatersteven (talk) 15:16, 6 July 2026 (UTC)

It seems you know these rules. I assume you can explain this then? "No its not, as you could want us to call Trump a liar for all I know.". you do not get to dismiss editor's concerns over what YOU think their POV is. Whats funny is that those edits has nothing to do with Mr. Trump. Morris (talk with this worm) 15:23, 6 July 2026 (UTC)

Yes, I was making the point that I had no idea what edit you wanted to make. And they do, as they put Trump's comments into context. Slatersteven (talk) 15:27, 6 July 2026 (UTC)

You, once again, failed to answer my question. They clearly voilate what you quote as you do not get to dismiss editor's concerns over what YOU think their POV is. You said you "obey these rules". Also can you explain how those edits were going to make it seems that "you could want us to call Trump a liar for all I know" got applied? Morris (talk with this worm) 15:30, 6 July 2026 (UTC)

Those edits were clearly about, and only about, attribution of the data. Morris (talk with this worm) 15:31, 6 July 2026 (UTC)

You could have said that, you did not. You never said what edit you wanted to make, and saying what you might want is not saying you did weant it, it was saying "I have no idea what you wanted". Slatersteven (talk) 15:34, 6 July 2026 (UTC)

I am going to repeat it again. They clearly voilate what you quote as you do not get to dismiss editor's concerns over what YOU think their POV is. You said you "obey these rules". It is no longer about what I said. Also can you explain how those edits were going to make it seems that "you could want us to call Trump a liar for all I know" got applied? Morris (talk with this worm) 15:36, 6 July 2026 (UTC)

No it does not, it is not a comment on you; it is asking you a question with an example of what you might say. I never said this is what you thought, or dismissed your comments based upon that assumption, but on the fact that you never gave a straight answer to "what do you want?". And I said why your edits were reverted; I am not going to explain it again. Slatersteven (talk) 15:40, 6 July 2026 (UTC)

I do not see it as a question. It does not have a question mark and it ends with "all I know". You never said what I thought and at the same time replied: No its not, as you could want us to call Trump a liar for all I know.

As for but on the fact that you never gave a straight answer to "what do you want?, here is that request. If you ignore my commentary and read last sentence it says Please fix the tone and way it is represented without altering the fact. We are not here to settle any kind of matter. We are here to represent an encyclopedia regardless of our views. Morris (talk with this worm) 15:49, 6 July 2026 (UTC)

Yes, but you did not say what tone we needed to fix, and no it was not worded as a question because I was not asking is that is what you thought; I was giving it as an example of what I would object to, if you thought that. Slatersteven (talk) 15:57, 6 July 2026 (UTC)

Yes, but you did not say what tone we needed to fix > Ahh...there is a snippet of text before the request. and You did know what sentence I was objecting to, yesterday. Anyone with common sense would know that No its not, as you could want us to call Trump a liar for all I know is not something a confused person would say. I was giving it as an example of what would object to > a good example should be written like this: Hello fellow editor. It seems like I am partly confused by your request as I dont understand what tone you want to change. Are you trying to change the sentence so that it look like that Trump is lying, for example? I would love your clarification

You know what? We all make mistakes sometime. And accepting them is healthy part of life. It makes none of us inferior. On the other hand, I would start to respect you. This thread will grow longer and longer because you will clearly not accept that 1) you voilated your own rule you seems to "obey" earlier than me, 2) you do not want the tone to be more neutral and publishers to be attributed, 3) falsely claiming that I was trying to make Mr. Trump to appeared to have lied. Morris (talk with this worm) 16:11, 6 July 2026 (UTC)

I did not, and it is not "my rule." Is it a Wikipedia policy, and I never said that is what you thought. Slatersteven (talk) 16:14, 6 July 2026 (UTC)

Okay. Have a nice day/evening. Morris (talk with this worm) 16:15, 6 July 2026 (UTC)

United Arab Emirates in the 2026 Iran war

I saw the change on the Casualties totals page and the reasons, but as stated, you should carefully review the infobox on the United Arab Emirates in the 2026 Iran war page with these specific indications that summarize what is written in the text with the relevant sources. UAE: 2 service members killed 1 civilian contractor killed 5 soldiers wounded 10 civilians killed, 224 others injured Total: 10 civilians + 2 military personnel + one civilian contractor = 13 dead 224 civilians + 5 military personnel = 229 wounded

Below are the attacks with dates, information, and sources, followed by the nationalities of the 13 deceased. ~2026-30628-51 (talk) 22:42, 11 July 2026 (UTC)

read wp:v. Slatersteven (talk) 09:06, 12 July 2026 (UTC)

I think you're right, I stopped at the infobox on the page United Arab Emirates in the 2026 Iran war and at the Casualties chapter at the bottom, missing the 5 wounded soldiers. I noticed after the news of April 8th which reported 10 civilian deaths and 224 civilians injured, there was the lack of two data, precisely that of the 5 wounded soldiers (but the news spoke of civilians and there were already 2 dead soldiers counted previously in addition to the Moroccan contractor serving the Emirati army who died in an attack in Bahrain), but a second news spoke precisely of the attack in Bahrain which counted the Moroccan contractor dead together with the 5 wounded Emirati soldiers ; However, the three Indians injured on May 4 were missing (who were not added to any count on the page except perhaps the general one that brought the injured to 227, but the 5 Emirati soldiers injured in Bahrain were still missing). So, to recap, the total deaths are 13 (10 civilians, 2 military personnel, and 1 civilian contractor), while the total injured are 232 (227 civilians and 5 military personnel). With the three sources, I believe the situation has been clarified, but I think both the Emirates page, the general Casualties page (i.e., the Total and the Emirates chapter), and the general page in the infobox need to be updated properly. ~2026-30628-51 (talk) 12:55, 12 July 2026 (UTC)

I will not discuss this on my talk page, other than to refer you to wp:or, the source must say they were UAE citizens, not that they were killed there. Slatersteven (talk) 13:04, 12 July 2026 (UTC)

I also underline that by mistake the Moroccan contractor serving in the Emirati army was also counted among the Bahraini deaths. I also have to verify the inconsistency in the data on Saudi Arabia's Casualties where the general mentions 3 civilian deaths and 23 injuries. On the Casualties page, they mistakenly wrote 29. They are counting from an old source the 29 American injuries from the attack on the American base in Saudi Arabia, already counted as American military injuries. However, there are 14 deaths counted on the Casualties page and not in the general. They died in an Aramco helicopter crash on June 28 and the source says for reasons yet to be verified. However, it must be said that Aramco had been attacked by Iran and heavily damaged, and therefore it could be said that if there had not been the attack, perhaps there would not have been these deaths. The sources need to be checked carefully. ~2026-30628-51 (talk) 13:15, 12 July 2026 (UTC)

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