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Principle of bivalence
editA lot of the articles on logic are a mix of technicians above my pay grade, and fake news from memes Ayn Rand style. I did my best to fix the "laws of thought" article and each principle by itself. I am unclear on the differences between the principle of bivalence and the law of excluded middle. Most commentary on Aristotle's sea battle treats them as equivalent. Would you be so kind to give the bivalence article a look? Cake (talk) 16:03, 20 April 2026 (UTC)
- Hi MisterCake, you are right that various logic articles struggle to make their topic accessible to a general reader. As I understand it, the principle of bivalence is about the possible truth values of propositions (every proposition has either the truth value "true" or the truth value "false") and the law of excluded middle is about a tautology (all propositions of the form "P or not-P" are automatically true). For example, three-valued logics violate the principle of bivalence (some propositions have the truth value "indeterminate") and intuitionistic logics violate the law of excluded middle (the proposition "P or not-P" is not automatically true). Phlsph7 (talk) 08:38, 21 April 2026 (UTC)
- Don't intuitionistic logics have a third truth value of indeterminate or unproven?? Cake (talk) 11:18, 21 April 2026 (UTC)
- At least not the standard version. One way to understand intuitionistic logic is to see it as a classical logic with fewer rules of inference. Because some rules of inference are missing, there are certain things you can prove in classical logic but not in intuitionistic logic. For example, you can't infer P from not-not-P in intuitionistic logic. Phlsph7 (talk) 13:30, 21 April 2026 (UTC)
- I thought not-not-P doesn't entail P because there are three truth values. If there is P, not-P, and a third, then not-not P is either P or a third option. I guess I am lost as to how a truth value gap is not a violation of the law of excluded middle. That is how Aristotle's sea battle is often expressed in the literature. Wiki seems to say it isn't. For example, "Cooper, Neil. “The Law of Excluded Middle.” Mind 87, no. 346 (1978): 161–80. http://www.jstor.org/stable/2253416." seems to disagree. Cake (talk) 10:44, 22 April 2026 (UTC)
- A.I. has told me bivalence entails LEM, but LEM doesnt necessarily entail bivalence. That first part fits what I have read. For instance, I have heard it said Aristotle's denial of bivalence entails a denial of excluded middle. It seems to me, due to the meme that Aristotle did the "3 laws of logic" wiki tried to previously say he denied bivalence but not excluded middle, as if a third truth value isn't the middle being excluded. Cake (talk) 14:10, 24 April 2026 (UTC)
- For a different opinion, see : There is certainly a close connection between LEM and PB, but they are not trivially equivalent. There are logical systems (e.g. certain many-valued logics and supervaluational languages) in which LEM is valid but PB does not hold, and vice versa (see e.g. van Fraasen 1966, Day 1992, DeVidi & Solomon 1999).
- The two principles are not always clearly distinguished in reliable sources, which makes understanding the difference more difficult. Phlsph7 (talk) 16:48, 24 April 2026 (UTC)
- A.I. has told me bivalence entails LEM, but LEM doesnt necessarily entail bivalence. That first part fits what I have read. For instance, I have heard it said Aristotle's denial of bivalence entails a denial of excluded middle. It seems to me, due to the meme that Aristotle did the "3 laws of logic" wiki tried to previously say he denied bivalence but not excluded middle, as if a third truth value isn't the middle being excluded. Cake (talk) 14:10, 24 April 2026 (UTC)
- I thought not-not-P doesn't entail P because there are three truth values. If there is P, not-P, and a third, then not-not P is either P or a third option. I guess I am lost as to how a truth value gap is not a violation of the law of excluded middle. That is how Aristotle's sea battle is often expressed in the literature. Wiki seems to say it isn't. For example, "Cooper, Neil. “The Law of Excluded Middle.” Mind 87, no. 346 (1978): 161–80. http://www.jstor.org/stable/2253416." seems to disagree. Cake (talk) 10:44, 22 April 2026 (UTC)
- At least not the standard version. One way to understand intuitionistic logic is to see it as a classical logic with fewer rules of inference. Because some rules of inference are missing, there are certain things you can prove in classical logic but not in intuitionistic logic. For example, you can't infer P from not-not-P in intuitionistic logic. Phlsph7 (talk) 13:30, 21 April 2026 (UTC)
- Don't intuitionistic logics have a third truth value of indeterminate or unproven?? Cake (talk) 11:18, 21 April 2026 (UTC)
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editHi Phlsph7, nice talking to you again. In return for your review to The Emancipation of Mimi, I'm happy to review an FAC of yours. Would dualism still need a review or would you want me to wait until your next candidate? Thanks and best, 750h+ 13:45, 5 May 2026 (UTC)
- Hi 750h+ and thanks for the offer! Reviews are always welcome, but the dualism nomination already has several finished reviews, so it wouldn't be essential there. In case the topic Well-being interests you, this would be my next candidate in need of reviews, probably in a few days once I have finished preparations. Phlsph7 (talk) 17:05, 5 May 2026 (UTC)
- @750h+: Alright, I started the nomination, see Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Well-being/archive1. I would be interested in your comments if you find the time. Phlsph7 (talk) 11:34, 13 May 2026 (UTC)
- Happy to ! 750h+ 01:54, 15 May 2026 (UTC)
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Hi. I notice you have the Truth article nominated for GA (as well as some others). I just nominated Dam for GA, and I'm looking for someone to swap reviews with. Are you interested in swapping GA reviews? I could do Truth, or any other of your GA nominations. I know some editors don't like swapping GA reviews, but it is not prohibited, provided that the reviews are thorough and proper ... which is what we both want, of course. I think you and I swapped a pair of PR reviews in 2025. Schedule: I'm hoping to have the reviews done within 7 to 10 days after starting, so I can move forward towards a FA nomination. Thanks for considering it! Noleander (talk) 23:40, 25 May 2026 (UTC)
- Hi Noleander and thanks for the offer. Unfortunately, I'm not particularly familiar with the topic of dams or with articles on civil engineering, so I may not be the best reviewer candidate. Phlsph7 (talk) 12:06, 26 May 2026 (UTC)
- No worries. Good luck with your nominations! Noleander (talk) 13:10, 26 May 2026 (UTC)
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Re:FA review of Well-being
editThank you for the thank you! I am unfortunately going through a bit of a hard season during this time, though I will do my best to give the article a thorough reading and add comments sometime in the near future :) ★ The Green Star Collector ★ (talk) 22:05, 8 June 2026 (UTC)
- Hi The Green Star Collector and sorry to hear about the difficulties you are facing. Thanks for taking a look at the article, I'm looking forward to your comments. Phlsph7 (talk) 07:47, 9 June 2026 (UTC)
Your nomination of Normativity has failed
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Political philosophy
editI would have brought this up on the article's talk page, but you are the main (if not sole) contributor and you are the only one opposing the edit.
Could you explain what exactly is the problem with this edit here (and the one previous to it)? For starters, I believe that the description in the image caption is very vague, for example, what exactly is "pragmatic governance"? This is why I viewed "founder of modernity" as a very specific claim, and one supported by a source of NM specialists (and a quote in the reference). For the latter claim about the "ends justifying the means", that is a sentiment which all scholars of Machiavelli note is a sentiment that, textually, he never uttered. One does not even need academics to know this, as it is something anyone can figure out by reading the primary sources. Considering that the scholars in the original edit are not specialists in the topic, and also that scholars are not perfect and it is possible that they can sometimes be lazy and not do simple due diligence, I view that my edit should, at the very least, be considered instead of just discarded via a quick edit summary. I assure you that I have more sources that support my reasoning than what is already offered. Care to wager? Plasticwonder (Cat got your tongue?) 17:05, 14 June 2026 (UTC)
- Hi Plasticwonder and thanks for bringing this to the talk page. The image is placed right next to the discussion of realism, so the image caption should discuss in what sense Machiavelli is a realist rather than present Machiavelli-related information that is irrelevant to the text. Maybe we can find something more concrete that fits these requirements. What about Realism is closely associated with Niccolò Machiavelli's emphasis on power politics and the pragmatic pursuit of self-interest.
- As I understand it, the expression "The end justifies the means" is a paraphrase of Machiavelli that is sometimes mistakenly presented as quote from Machiavelli. Our current text does not attribute it to Machiavelli as quote. It just uses this principle to describe Machiavelli's philosophy. I think that part is correct. For example this book has a full chapter on this aspect of Machiavelli's The Prince, titled "The end justifies the means: end-orientation and the discourses of power".
- Concerning your suggestion, the expression "the founder of modernity" is too general and I don't think that it is widely used in this overly broad sense outside the context of political philosophy. The expression "the founder of modern political philosophy" is more commonly associated with Machiavelli, but it is also associated with Hobbes (e.g. see and ), so we have to qualify it in some form and can't simply state it in wikivoice. Phlsph7 (talk) 08:41, 15 June 2026 (UTC)
- You know, I never thought of it from your perspective, and this makes total sense. Thank you for your gracious reply! Plasticwonder (Cat got your tongue?) 14:12, 15 June 2026 (UTC)
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Promotion of Well-being
editCongrats!
editI was goïng to check out your FAC for well-beÏng and, well, I was too late! Congrats on the promotion! sina pali e lipu pi pona mute a. toby in solidarity 04:39, 17 June 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks! I'm glad that it worked out in the end. Phlsph7 (talk) 07:45, 17 June 2026 (UTC)
Your nomination of Normativity has passed
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Well-being scheduled for TFA
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DYK for Premise
editOn 30 June 2026, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Premise, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that a faulty premise can turn a whole argument into a fallacy? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Premise. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Premise), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to nominate it.
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Just wonderful work. I spend years scribbling about minor people and objects but you write the aticles that a thousand clever children will pour over in decades to come. Thank you. No Swan So Fine (talk) 21:21, 30 June 2026 (UTC)
- Hi No Swan So Fine and thanks for the feedback! Phlsph7 (talk) 07:18, 1 July 2026 (UTC)
Tampa Bay Lightning
editHi there, I don't want you to be caught off-guard as I have resubmitted the article to GAN. I have to taken your review comments and put in a couple hours worth of work to get it better suited. I know there will likely be some small issues, but there shouldn't be anything glaringly bad to fail it immediately now. If there are, definitely let me know. Cheers! Conyo14 (talk) 02:57, 5 July 2026 (UTC)
- @Conyo14: Thanks for the changes, the sourcing looks better now. Good luck with the renomination. Phlsph7 (talk) 07:10, 5 July 2026 (UTC)
DYK
editHi, I would generally advise against starting a review before the nominator has done their QPQ. TSventon (talk) 15:15, 5 July 2026 (UTC)
- @TSventon: Thanks for the input. I haven't run into this type of problem before, but that's probably a good idea to be on the safe side. Phlsph7 (talk) 16:09, 5 July 2026 (UTC)
The 2026 Core Contest Winners!
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- First place (and a prize of £120) goes to Vigilantcosmicpenguin (talk · contribs) for his dual efforts on Flatbread and Tortilla! One, formerly an unsourced list-like article, and the other, once a poorly sourced and spotty overview, both now number 250+ citations from an impressively academic source pool. We particularly commend the efforts to globalize content, treat the topics comprehensively and thoughtfully select illustrations. Both articles (one now a GA) are of a uniquely high quality amid the often underserved food topics on Wikipedia. Bravo!
- Second place (and a prize of £100) goes to Phlsph7 (talk · contribs), a Core Contest regular who has once again shown a mastery of big topics, with his dual efforts on Agnosticism and Premise—both now GAs (one, with a review by our first place winner!). With immensely thorough sourcing improvements, alongside carefully nuanced text on these often misunderstood topics, both articles are a pleasure to read.
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Core Contest 2026 prize winner
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Your good article nomination of the article Semiotics has
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DYK for Normativity
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Edit Farming
edit13:40, 2 July 2026 diff hist +292 Reality →History: consistent reference style 13:34, 2 July 2026 diff hist +348 Reality →Sources: add source 13:33, 2 July 2026 diff hist −416 Reality →Sources: remove duplicate source 13:33, 2 July 2026 diff hist −179 Reality →Sources: remove duplicate source 13:31, 2 July 2026 diff hist +850 Reality →Sources: add sources
Please refrain from taking multiple edits when one would suffice.
No but seriously, jk and thanks for updating the article "Truth". — Preceding unsigned comment added by ~2026-39801-28 (talk) 23:32, 14 July 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks for the feedback on the article Truth. Regarding minor edits, see WP:MINOR. Phlsph7 (talk) 08:43, 17 July 2026 (UTC)
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Articles for Creation backlog drive
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Question from an admirer
editHi, back in 2011 I attended a WikiConference in Bristol, UK. User:Johnbod spoke about how Wikipedia was great for topics with a small, well-defined literature but was not doing well for abstract concepts. Having a Philosophy PhD and writing about theoretical psychology, I struck a similar note in my talk; I said that articles like Perception or Happiness will never be good because Wikipedians will never agree on the boundaries of the relevant literature. I hope this context explains why I am delighted to be proved wrong and why I'm completely in awe of what you have achieved and are achieving with articles like Normativity, Cognition, Truth, and the others listed on your userpage.
So, the question (which has multiple aspects): Is there a process you use with overhauling an article on such a topic? Do you ever have difficulty balancing philosophical, empirical, and even religious/spiritual literatures? When I rewrote Confirmation bias, what helped me was a recent textbook chapter and a review paper. Those two sources provided an organising structure that helped me find and summarise other sources. Do you work similarly from a guiding source, or a particular kind of literature review? How do you identify "the literature" on a topic like Mind or Truth, and apportion the weight of different literatures? Thanks in advance for any response, MartinPoulter (talk) 21:30, 19 July 2026 (UTC)
- Hi MartinPoulter and thanks a lot for the feedback! I agree that Wikipedia is better suited for smaller and well-defined topics. The problem with broad topics is that so much information is relevant in some sense that it becomes difficult to decide what to include and how to organize it. For this problem, WP:PROPORTION and WP:SUMMARYSTYLE are among the main principles.
- Regarding the method for overhauling an article, a lot of preparatory work goes into understanding the topic before I make any changes to the article. I usually start by compiling a long reading list, focusing on overview sources that aim to cover the topic at large rather than specialized subareas. In the case of mind, I look for books with titles similar to encyclopedia of the mind, companion to the mind, handbook of philosophy of mind, what is the mind, the nature of mind, the mind: an introduction, as well as encyclopedia articles titled mind. If the topic spans several fields, such as psychology and philosophy, one has to make sure that all major disciplines are represented in the reading list.
- Next, I go through them to see how they present the topic and divide it into subtopics. Given the number of sources and the length of some of them, it's not possible to read everything cover to cover during preliminary planning. Many of the longer works have helpful general introductions, section introductions, or conclusion sections that summarize the most important points. If one already has a good familiarity with the topic, one can get a broad picture of the field by reading the articles and the most important parts of longer works, and by comparing tables of contents. While doing this, I try to figure out what the main points are, how to subdivide and condense them into a few main sections, and how to deal with disagreements among the sources. Once I have the basic section structure and a sense of what belongs in each section, I outline my proposal and the problems of the current article on the article talk page and I usually implement the changes section by section. The overview sources often don't have enough information for each individual section, so I typically need to consult additional sources specifically dedicated to the section topic. Phlsph7 (talk) 10:38, 20 July 2026 (UTC)
DYK for Semiotics
editOn 20 July 2026, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Semiotics, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that semioticians interpret the waggle dance of honey bees as a text? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Semiotics. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (Semiotics), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to nominate it.
A barnstar for you!
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| Great job getting Semiotics promoted to GA/DYK. One of the best articles I've seen in a long time! The way you are thorough in an encyclopedic tone while also using a wide range of reliable sources is incredible. Morogris (✉ • ✎) 19:28, 20 July 2026 (UTC) |

