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Q1: Why is this article titled Chelsea Manning?
A majority of sources now use the name "Chelsea" when referring to Manning which would make it the common name. There has been consensus among editors since October 2013 that this name should be used. Q2: Why does the article refer to Manning as she?
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Typos in Quote
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- What I think should be changed (format using {{textdiff}}):
In the first paragraph of the section "2019 jailing for contempt":
| − | + | "We've seen this power abused countless times to target political speech. I have nothing to contribute to this case and I resent being forced to endanger myself by participating in this predatory practice" |
I.e. capitalization and removing the digit 0.
- Why it should be changed:
This seems to be a typo, the source after that quote has the quote without those errors.
- References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button): [1]
OmegaOrderable (talk) 09:59, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
Done (but I also moved the period inside the quotation because it was part of the original quotation). 1101 (talk) 11:06, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
References
- ↑ Axelrod, Tal. "Chelsea Manning subpoenaed for testimony in Julian Assange probe: reports". The Hill. Retrieved 18 March 2025.
Inconsistencies regarding her name
editIn the sections regarding her earlier life, Chelseas deadname is used interchangeably with Chelsea. I am unaware of the policy regarding biographies and name changes but I think that Chelsea should be used whenever possible. AlighieriJvc (talk) 18:46, 4 November 2025 (UTC)
- Where are you seeing Manning's deadname in the early life section? I only see it in the first sentence of the article, which is consistent with WP:DEADNAME. Funcrunch (talk) 20:00, 4 November 2025 (UTC)
- If what you're seeing is the reference titles, we cannot reasonably alter them, as they need to be accurate for verifiability. But her prior name appears nowhere in the text of the article between the first sentence and the court case (although a user handle built off of the name is mentioned once.) -- Nat Gertler (talk) 20:27, 4 November 2025 (UTC)
- Please review the FAQ above. cheers. anastrophe, an editor he is. 20:41, 4 November 2025 (UTC)
New infobox photo
editHi all!
I shot a portrait of Chelsea Manning today and I've gone ahead and updated the infobox photo. That said, I recognize that the original image, from 2022, was not especially outdated, and might be considered more flattering that the current photo.
I have no dog in this race and am leaving this topic just to let anyone know that if the community prefers the original image and wants to revert this change... I have no issue with this. Chive Cream Cheese (talk) 00:21, 2 March 2026 (UTC)
- @Chive Cream Cheese: Thank you for your photography! I personally prefer the prior 2022 image. SocDoneLeft (talk) 00:23, 2 March 2026 (UTC)
- Good photo! For my part, I also prefer Manning's own portrait (now A). I don't anticipate she has dramatically changed appearance since 2022, but is a bit more made up in her own portrait. –RoxySaunders 🏳️⚧️ (talk • stalk) 07:12, 2 March 2026 (UTC)
- Agreed that both photos are good, but I also prefer the 2022 image. Funcrunch (talk) 17:32, 2 March 2026 (UTC)
- The 2022 one has better lighting and is clearly a professional headshot, as opposed to 2026 one which fits into the classic genre of "a Wikipedian candidly snapped this but it's the only free photo we have". Not to say it's a bad photo, but I think the 2022 one is superior. CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 22:15, 2 March 2026 (UTC)
- Well, I think that's enough of a consensus for me. I've reverted my change back to the 2022 photo. Chive Cream Cheese (talk) 05:04, 3 March 2026 (UTC)
Gallery
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(A) 2022 portrait, Manning's current Twitter PFP
(B) 2026 photograph contributed by Chive Cream Cheese
Discrepancy
editThe lead states:
"In 2018, Manning challenged incumbent senator Ben Cardin for the Democratic nomination for the United States Senate election in her home state of Maryland. She received 6.1% of the vote; Cardin won renomination with 79.2%."
The body of the article states different numbers:
"On June 26, 2018, Manning finished second among eight Democrats vying for their party's US Senate nomination in Maryland's primary election. Manning received 5.8% of the votes. Incumbent Ben Cardin won renomination with 80.4% of the votes cast." OrdinaryOtter (talk) 14:54, 28 April 2026 (UTC)
- Fixed. (I checked the source, and the numbers were 5.8% and 80.4%.) 𝕷𝖚𝖓𝖆𝖗𝖑𝖚𝖕𝖎𝖞𝖊☾𝕿☽⚸ 03:50, 13 May 2026 (UTC)
Home state
editHow is her home state maryland if she was born in oklahoma? the early life section doesnt even mention maryland Froglord (Finnfrog99) (talk) 12:59, 22 June 2026 (UTC)
- I just read it as Maryland was her home, which it had been since returning to the US. I don't know that it's necessary to state, but it does serve to differentiate her from someone like Hillary Clinton, who bought a house in New York in order to run for the Senate. -- irn (talk) 14:39, 22 June 2026 (UTC)
- Thats a very confusing way to word it, it sounds like she lived in maryland before moving from US Froglord (Finnfrog99) (talk) 14:42, 22 June 2026 (UTC)