Talk:Black Adam

Teth Adam's real name

The revisions here regarding his real name make no sense; nothing in New History of the DC Universe #1 directly refutes information that "unequivolcally" says Teth-Adam is the birth name and nothing else. It IS also somewhat important to note the name because it consolidates old history of "Theo Adam" and spun a new context around it. Furthermore, a page does not simply follow "current status quo" because that can change on a whim and it is not sabotage or outdated to note it there. Teth Adam is simply the more common name and Theo Ramses Djoser Teth-Adam is the characters' full name. It is not too different from Dick Grayson's full real name being Richard John Grayson or Yolanda Montez's full name being Yolanda Maria Dorothea Lucia Montez. CosmicMordecai (talk) 00:53, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Theo Ramses Djoser Teth Adam is not accurately the full name of the character. It was confusing and mixed even if it was in 2022s comic. It was blatantly editorial failure and fixed later by Mark Waid and updated DC encyclopedia book by editorial team. No credible comics post 2022s comic uses that name ever. The official canon thing is Teth Adam per to encyclopedia book. That's why It's good to use the official canon name rather than clinging to older name that Dc editorial team avoiding to use . Kahndaqi (talk) 23:53, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

Usually Dc encyclopedia would mention his full name if that would still canon. Like many characters in the book. But they've realized that "Theo" was a name for descendant created back in Power of Shazam during 90s and removed from Teth Adam during early JSA 2000s. In new 52 he began his Inception as Teth Adam only. And that was sustainable until 2022 comic, Where the clashes of names began with timelines. Teth was a slave back in ancient Kahndaq per DC encyclopedia 2026 book. He was never related to Ramses after reincarnation. I have the book now between my hands and they refering to him "Real name: Teth-Adam". I am not starting edit war but rather than that, providing the official updated canon thing for the character. Kahndaqi (talk) 14:53, 9 June 2026 (UTC)

And I may add that DC encyclopedia book refutes many aspects from 2022 comic and acknowledgd what happened prior the book. But yet still acknowledged minor things happened in the comic. It is known that the updated version will be considered the ultimate reference because it passed through many editors who will absolutely read the characters background and histories to tell what can fit for them from previous stories. Please understand that I only provided the ultimate guiding source from final updated book that preserves the character's lore from many previous stories. Kahndaqi (talk) 20:15, 9 June 2026 (UTC)

So this is not how that works; there is no evidence that it is a "blatant editorial failure", the lack of "credible comics" is subjective, and the reception of such information is not a feasible consideration. It's the characters' own solo series, which is a primary source. There are various characters within DC Comics books (Raven, Rick Flag, Azrael, Question) that has had similar happenings. Even If I believed your argument, we don't ommit "outdated" information but we acknowledge it and it does not contradict given "Teth Adam" is still part of his name. I am going to re-add this information but I'm going to seperate it. If you omit this again, I'm getting an admin involved for staring an edit war. CosmicMordecai (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 01:48, 9 June 2026 (UTC)

EDIT: To further explain why I am insistent on it's inclusion; the source (Black Adam series) consolidated and revised his history in an attempt to make it cohesive, referencing old Marvel Family and Shazam comics while revising details (especially apparent with Wizard Shazam). One of those includes making "Theo Adam", a previously seperated but related character, a composite character and explaining instead that "Theo" is his birth name and "Ramses Djoser"is not completely random; early versions of the character had Teth as a Egyptian prince and his father is Ramssses II. I don't known about Djoser being added though.CosmicMordecai (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 02:05, 9 June 2026 (UTC)

Parroting back over here to continue discussion and reponse to your comment; I understand your argument here but ultimately, the decision to ommit verfiable information ("Theo Rames Djoner Teth-Adam") because it is not mentioned in an encyclopedia doesn't really make sense. It is not infalliable, complete (It summarizes instead of telling the whole history) nor is it the complete arbiter of canon. Furthermore, we have to be careful about indepedently detereming what is "canon". "Teth-Adam" is indeed the more common name but the comic book asserts "Theo Rames Djoner Teth-Adam" as his full name while exploring his background and history in-depth durin that period. Both are correct. Saying the latter is “non-canonical,” “outdated,” or an “editorial mistake” is speculatiory and interpative unless a reliable source explicitly says so and I'm not trying to give any inferences or thoughts on the intent. Wikipedia is not meant to be a place for determining canoncity. CosmicMordecai (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 18:25, 10 June 2026 (UTC)

Request for comment (RfC): Black Adam's real name

My RfC is because me and Kahndaqi can't seem to get a consensus on adding the character's real name and would like a third comment. Thus far, the argument boils down to this: I have added "Theo Ramses Djoser Teth-Adam" in the real name portion (see here) because in Black Adam (2022) #1, the character expresses his full name in the first few pages of the comic (here). It is clear, demonstratable, and easy to conclude in my opinion. Kahndaqi has reverted these edits, stating in edit summaries (here and here) and above that they believe that it is considered a "editorial mistake", "outdated", "non-canoical" and should be ommitted. I countered, beleving the information to be both considerable and relevant for the reasons above. I'd like for another party to chime in and give their thoughts onto this. CosmicMordecai (talk) 03:37, 10 June 2026 (UTC)

Please consider to see this my leatest updated version of the character ( with legitimate validated source. Here you can check Page 43 (). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kahndaqi (talk • contribs) 12:29, 10 June 2026 (UTC)

I already had the encyclopedia both physically and digitally so I've already seen it. The comic book has Black Adam explicitly state his full-name on panel. That is a clear statement from the source material whereas encyclopedias reference works across the broad and broadly summerizes. It's bound to miss informaiton (Azrael, Red Hood, Doctor Fate, and Salem the Witch Girl are examples of characters whose middle name is ommitted whereas a character like Ocean Master has a different name stated from source material and other reference materials). It's omission does not necessarily invalidate the source material itself. While writing this, I ended up becoming aware that WP:PRIMARY and WP:V in particular should be noted. If you remove verifable, soure information because you believe it is "non-canonical" or "outdated", you have to prove it with a source that directly supports your statement. CosmicMordecai (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 15:46, 10 June 2026 (UTC)

They are plenty of characters in DC encyclopedia having their middle names mentioned. Atom Smasher and Cheetah are prime examples. The book would've mentioned in story details about the character name if they're actually summarize, for instance they could say his name is Theo Teth Adam. It won't be that difficult. But they made the actual figure name "Teth-Adam". That's the more prominent and what editors at DC comics considered it the actual canon thing from his previous stories. If you go back to read the actual page from DC encyclopedia 2026 ,they are telling the details of 2022 comic and they still refering to the character as Teth Adam. It is an explicit statement about preserving the lore of the character. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kahndaqi (talk • contribs) 17:11, 10 June 2026 (UTC)

Comment: @Kahndaqi and CosmicMordecai: I'm not here to comment on the RfC, but can both of you please properly sign your messages (using ~~~~) so other editors know who is saying what? Repeatedly altering the material of the RfC and your comments after it has been opened and responded to is not advisable and risks tanking any outcome due to a lack of transparency. Also, RfCs are not to repeat the same arguments as above; they are to be neutral requests to allow uninvolved eitors to engage in a collaborative discussion, which takes time. Thank you. — Trailblazer¹⁰¹🔥 ^{(discuss · contribs)} 17:44, 10 June 2026 (UTC)

@ @Trailblazer101:: My bad. I was trying to keep the tone appropiate and this is honestly my frist time even doing something like this. CosmicMordecai (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 17:52, 10 June 2026 (UTC)

@CosmicMordecai: Four tildes, please, not three. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 20:30, 10 June 2026 (UTC)

Is the question “Should Theo Ramses Djoser Teth-Adam be included in the article and infobox as a real name”? (Summoned by bot) Dw31415 (talk) 21:45, 10 June 2026 (UTC)

Or “alter ego”? Dw31415 (talk) 22:02, 10 June 2026 (UTC)

"Real name" in this case. CosmicMordecai (talk) 00:44, 11 June 2026 (UTC)

Real name and into the infobox. CosmicMordecai (talk) 00:45, 11 June 2026 (UTC)