eli: (city at heart)
eli ([personal profile] eli) wrote2009-04-21 01:57 pm

thingies

1) If you're still looking to get a VVC DVD set, I have one extra left that I can procure.

2) The thing that sticks with me about the cross-posting interface at DW is that it assumes, a) you want to use a Web interface to post, and b) that DW is your starting point. As far as I could tell after poking around some, it doesn't take into account those of us who plan to continue using LJ as our journal, and are posting to DW nine times out of ten only to maintain an up-to-date backup (the tenth time being all the "how do I get this to work?" stuff I don't want to bug LJ-only people with). NOTE: not a complaint; an observation.

2a) It's occurring to me that if I e-mail post, it is not going to cross-post. Ah well.

3) Does anyone else read Cute Overload through Google Reader? Has anyone else found that CO's new RSS feed does not include the full post like the old one did? Has anyone found a way around this? Is it just me? Should I just put in a note at CO asking them to pretty please let me see the cuteness again, pleeeeeeease.

4) I found a Very Hungry Caterpillar card at Target today. With stickers! That is totally making this grey crap of a day worthwhile.

5) Just to round this out: what happened to the Orioles this weekend? Not that I'm complaining, because yay! Wins! But did they forget how to catch balls? That's gonna be a problem.
ext_1310: (pie = love)

[identity profile] musesfool.livejournal.com 2009-04-21 05:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I believe that if you put all the journal addresses in your To: line, you can crosspost via email. At least, I think I did it once or twice with LJ and IJ.

[identity profile] elishavah.livejournal.com 2009-04-21 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Hmmm. For LJ, it's username+PIN at post.livejournal.com, with a whole bunch of things I had to set up through mobile post settings. I would assume that I'd need something similarly secure/specified for DW, but I don't see anything in the FAQ for it. Is the info out there, and just not in the FAQ yet?

[identity profile] elishavah.livejournal.com 2009-04-22 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
::facepalm:: I am just that turned around today. Thank you! Although I will still need to test whether tags happen correctly. Maybe I should do that now, while I'm at home and have the ability to delete/edit as needed.

[identity profile] elishavah.livejournal.com 2009-04-22 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
Oops. Except apparently e-mail posting isn't allowed for my account type. I assume that means "free." Guess I'll stick to re-importing when I get home if/when I post from work.

[identity profile] par-avion.livejournal.com 2009-04-22 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
Ah. Well, you can upgrade your account for testing purposes while it's in Closed Beta. (They will downgrade accounts on April 30th.)

http://www.dreamwidth.org/misc/beta.bml

[identity profile] elishavah.livejournal.com 2009-04-22 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
Nah, not gonna bother for a week and a half of use. You totally rock for checking all this out, though! My brain is apparently only semi-functional tonight.

[identity profile] par-avion.livejournal.com 2009-04-22 01:05 am (UTC)(link)
No problem! I've been poking at Dwdth a lot, so I knew where to find things :)

[identity profile] inlovewithnight.livejournal.com 2009-04-21 06:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Wandering by off friendsfriends- I suspect that point #2 is very much intended by the DW people. As in, if you want to crosspost, and you can crosspost from the DW web interface, then even if LJ is your main journal you'll *still* be logging in to DW and using DW as your gateway. And in time the reflex will be pulling up DW first and you'll shift over to DW primarily.

It's very clever, really. I actually kind of admire it as subtle behavior-shaping.

[identity profile] elishavah.livejournal.com 2009-04-21 11:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, I certainly imagine that's gone through someone's head! I probably should have said, "assuming -- and making reality by default -- that DW is your starting point."

[identity profile] veritykindle.livejournal.com 2009-04-21 06:20 pm (UTC)(link)
The thing that sticks with me about the cross-posting interface at DW is that it assumes, a) you want to use a Web interface to post, and b) that DW is your starting point.

But you can still use an editor like Semagic to cross-post, can't you? Or did that option go away, now that the cross-posting interface is up? I thought that the reason for this particular cross-posting interface was to provide an easy way to cross-post for people like me who do actually prefer using a web interface rather than an external editor to post. (Because people using programs like semagic could cross-post fairly easily already.) It's not saying that this is the only way you can cross-post; it's plugging in a hole for people who hadn't been able to cross-post easily until now.

As for assuming that DW is your starting point... Does it actually matter which journal you are using the posting interface on, if it ends up posting to both anyway? It doesn't mean that you can't consider the post to LJ your primary post after that, does it? It becomes a little like using an external web-based program to post, rather than using external software that you install on your computer. So again, I'm not sure how that's assuming anything about what people will use it for.

I've been really looking forward to this feature, actually, because I never got into the habit of using semagic to post. I heard it's still somewhat buggy, though, so I'm going to wait a bit before I start completely relying on it. *g*

Oh! There was actually one thing I noticed about comments on Dreamwidth that I thought might be really useful to you. It looks like you can reply to emailed comments from DW right from your gmail account. So if your work frowns on you using sites like LJ or DW at work, then you can just reply from gmail, and not deal with it! I haven't had a chance to try that out yet, but I think that would be pretty cool if it works! :)

[identity profile] prunesnprisms.livejournal.com 2009-04-21 10:46 pm (UTC)(link)
If so, that's AWESOME. I can't get to LJ from work except via email post, and I never do get back to comments.

[identity profile] elishavah.livejournal.com 2009-04-21 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Nope, it works just like the "if your browser can support it" text entry field on LJ e-mailed comments -- dumps you out on the comment page. ::sigh::

[identity profile] veritykindle.livejournal.com 2009-04-21 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Interesting - I don't have an "if your browser can support it" text entry field on LJ e-mailed comments. Are you saying that you do? I wonder why!

All I have in LJ comment notifications are links to the entry, with no way to enter any text. DW has an actual separate text entry field that, admittedly, does take me straight to the DW page as I comment, which I agree might not be useful if you are trying to avoid going to the page in the first place.

[identity profile] elishavah.livejournal.com 2009-04-21 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
...you don't get that option in your LJ e-mailed comments? Huh. Yeah, that I don't know how to answer!

[identity profile] par-avion.livejournal.com 2009-04-22 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
Do you receive your LJ comments in HTML or plain text?

(This is where that option lives: http://www.livejournal.com/manage/settings/?cat=display).

[identity profile] veritykindle.livejournal.com 2009-04-22 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
Wow! You rule! It was set to "plain text", so I guess that explains it!

Thank you so much! ♥

[identity profile] elishavah.livejournal.com 2009-04-21 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
It looks like you can reply to emailed comments from DW right from your gmail account.

Nope. The wording is the same as LJ e-mailed comments, and it works exactly like the LJ comments do -- when you hit "post reply," it dumps you out on the journal page where your comment appears. Not helpful. I've never understood why they even bother offering that as an option.

As for the rest, yes, I use Semagic because I really really hate using web interfaces for posting. But Semagic doesn't currently bring the tags over along with the post, so I have to go over to my DWJ and manually put them on. Irritating. I'm hoping that gets fixed in another release. Frankly, if I can figure out how to leave a comment/suggestion to the Semagic people, I will ask for it.

And it does make a difference that they're assuming DW is your starting point -- I don't want to start there. If I had my druthers, I'd never go there at all, but I do, since I check my reading list there about once a day for those who have moved over entirely, or who are posting DW-specific stuff only on DW (which makes sense). And while I don't believe there's something sinister going on or anything, I'm also not going to disagree with what [livejournal.com profile] inlovewithnight says.

[identity profile] veritykindle.livejournal.com 2009-04-22 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
I don't want to start there.

Well, but... it's not like they can do anything about LJ's web interface! Their web posting interface is the only thing they can control. It's not their fault that LJ doesn't have a cross-posting feature, which means that you can't cross-post by starting at the LJ web posting page.

Mind you, I don't completely disagree with [livejournal.com profile] inlovewithnight, either - I'm sure the creators in DW don't exactly mind the fact that people have to use their interface instead of LJ's in order to cross-post. But the fact remains that we still can't really blame them for LJ's lack of a cross-posting option.

And also, I haven't tested this, but my brother, who uses an external RSS feed aggregating site pretty much exclusively and doesn't like going to LJ to view his friends' page, told me that the RSS feed for my Dreamwidth journal works much better for him than the LJ RSS feed does. DW preserves the spoiler cuts for him, and my LJ feed doesn't. Now, granted, this is only comparing my LJ and DW journal, so I don't know if other journals will be the same, but that could be a way for you to avoid going to DW if you really don't want to.

[identity profile] elishavah.livejournal.com 2009-04-21 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, I'm also pretty sure that protected entries posted to LJ through Semagic won't be protected on DW. Don't feel like testing it now, but since the friends/access/whatever lists are different...

[identity profile] par-avion.livejournal.com 2009-04-21 06:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I probably will be using Dwdth as my starting point (eventually). But for now I am re-importing my LJ once in a while -- this bring over new entries, and new comments, but doesn't duplicate old entries.

I've definitely seen someone successfully cross-post via email ... maybe morgandawn? I never post by email, myself.

[identity profile] elishavah.livejournal.com 2009-04-21 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Ooooh, re-importing doesn't duplicate what's already been done? Good to know. Maybe I'll do that once a week, or something.

And hm, I don't see anything on morgandawn's LJ about e-mail cross-posting, but I'll keep poking around. My issue is that while I can get to LJ (and also DW, I expect) at work, I just don't want to have that running through the network logs.

[identity profile] elishavah.livejournal.com 2009-04-21 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, hey, but what just occurred to me -- does it update comments on entries it's already imported? Like, if new comments have been added to an old entry, does it pick those up and plop them in?

[identity profile] par-avion.livejournal.com 2009-04-21 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I think so (or, I think it is supposed to). I don't have really comment-heavy entries though, so I didn't notice any changes between the first and second time I imported.

[identity profile] thepouncer.livejournal.com 2009-04-21 07:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Cute overload is still displaying full entries for me in Google Reader. I'm using http://feeds.feedburner.com/typepad/CuteOverload as the feed.

[identity profile] elishavah.livejournal.com 2009-04-21 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Again, because it totally bears repeating: THANK YOU. OMG SANITY.

[identity profile] cretkid.livejournal.com 2009-04-21 09:40 pm (UTC)(link)
yeah, i was wondering about the Os myself this weekend; particularly when the Sox got them good on Monday with a 12-2(??) win.

Not nearly as bad as Wang and the Yankees (and the Yankees pulled Wang from the lineup this weekend against the Sox... too bad; the Sox could use the win!)

[identity profile] elishavah.livejournal.com 2009-04-21 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Seriously. I mean, when a bunch of opposing players are convening on a ball, I'm ALWAYS muttering, "drop it drop it drop it droooooop iiiiiiit," but I don't ever actually expect that to WORK. :)

[identity profile] rez-lo.livejournal.com 2009-04-22 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
I would love the DVD set if it's still available.

And I think I clicked the link in your last email and galloped off to DW without even a terse "thanks" back at you, which is horrible and embarrassing. I'm very grateful for the code and really appreciate the your kind response to my plea. Thank you! I was really glad to get it!

I've been reading up on installing WINE so I can use Semagic with OSX but haven't been brave enough actually to do it.

[identity profile] elishavah.livejournal.com 2009-04-22 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
That can happen! I'll e-mail you all to let you know how to get me the $10.50.

And oh, no problems. I totally took the subscription/access e-mails as "Hey, I'm here! Thanks!" :)

I wish you luck with the OSX-Semagic stuff. I have plenty of people around who are on Macs if you want me to post a query for you...

[identity profile] rez-lo.livejournal.com 2009-04-22 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
I'm a P*yP*l user, FWIW. And I'm thinking I'll do a query post about WINE, and will maybe ask you for referrals if follow-up questions come up. Thank you again!