welcome to the circus

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See, that’s what the app is perfect for.

Sounds perfect Wahhhh, I don’t wanna
punkitt-is-here
anarchopuppy

I, a hearing person who likes subtitles just as a preference, shouldn't have to read a subtitle that's obvious nonsense, go back a couple seconds, and listen again in order to figure out what's going on. An accessibility feature should not be the most half-assed part of a professionally made production. Scripted media has absolutely no excuse for not having subtitles or having subtitles that aren't perfectly verbatim. Professional captioning services should be ashamed of the shoddy work that they put out. Captions should be treated as a part of the production, just like filming, editing, audio balancing, etc - and anything that releases with missing or bad captions should be seen as unfinished

ashlgcostumes
ashlgcostumes

As someone who is both trans and has a child, absolutely hilarious to me that society presents one of these as absolutely only to be done if you are 110% certain and have proved to several people that you want it bad enough and are ready, and the other is like. You might as well everyone else does. Just do it nobody feels ready. You don’t want to? Yes you do

Especially since one of those is pretty reversible if you change your mind after a couple years and the other one, well, technically but that’s pretty frowned upon

redstonedust
whencartoonsruletheworld

not to "trying to be chill but can't help noticing how misogyny bleeds through the cracks etc etc" but once you realize that almost none of the cute disney comic relief sidekicks are women you can't unsee it. like that thing only exists to do some slapstick and look cute for plushies. why can't it be a woman. why are ALL of them he/him. it's driving me fucking insane

whencartoonsruletheworld

I would like to formally apologize to everyone. I had no idea what consequences my actions would create but I should have been more careful anyway. I should have remembered this is a Genie Website and I should have clarified that when I want more female nonhuman comedic relief characters, I did not mean I wanted Olaf the Snowman to have an intensely heterosexual love interest in Frozen 3. I will do my best to go through each post with a team of lawyers going forwards to ensure this never happens again.

mvtk42

#I think the fact that all female nonhuman comic relief sidekicks are sequel-introduced love interests just proves your point tbh @aro-narcissus

arielries
feathernotes

So, we need to talk about what webtoons(the company) has done to webcomics

Over the past 7 or so years, we've seen this absolute shift in expectation, migration, and stagnation in the webcomics sphere which applies to style, sustainability, and the platforms grip on readers and creators

I'll be the first one to say that webcomics are not an easy way to make money and a majority of folks who make them rarely see profit. This has always been the case!
But when virality, siphoning audiences from all over, and opportunity to 'get printed' presented itself, that expectation shifted.

So let's talk about what those expectations are now:
🔴Demand for Higher quality- less readers will check out beginner looking works or comics that feel too 'faulty' in style meaning less excitement to see webcomics grow over the years. Polish is expected and commented on consistently by readers

There is also an expectation for specific visual and narrative styles. This applies to other social media platforms too- in that works that take less investing in are often promoted and prioritised. That means less risks on narratives, less nuances, and shorter series running.

🔴All on one site/app- That may seem pretty fantastic for getting new readers (and is the absolute main sticking point for so many artists) but when algorithms and specific series are wanted, your works have a harder chance getting to the people they need to. The search function is trash for a reason

I'm not one to toot the competition flute, but there's a level of that at play when the spotlight for that platform is actually pretty small. What you get is a lot of readers checking out the same comics, and not spreading it all out to find yours (their subs have a cap for this reason)

🔴Sustainability (and lack thereof)- The creator of these comics are often burnt out and given little support- all while fighting to see what is allowed on the platform with its excitable censoring. I won't speak for originals (there's many testimonies you can find) but their experiences of burn out are harrowing

With the high production expectation for a person who is rarely given help (often has to hire out of pocket for that) and the readers who want Updates Now, it's a frustrating place to post your comics with no rest. It's 2026, we shouldn't be treating cartoonists this way still.

Webtoons (the company) is always going to be interested in making a profit. That's sort of where it all starts and stops here. They'll embrace the slop machines (more slop sources) for investors, they'll mistreat creators, cancel 'unprofitable' comics, censor work, and protect that bottom line. That's their MO, always!

So when I see these conversations that inevitably float around about Webtoons and how the only response is 'stop using it', I think we also need to deconstruct what it's done to creators and readers and how they engage with/create works too- because it doesn't seem that simple of a solution

Webtoons has solidified itself in webcomics as the Place to start and stop with comics. They want you to use their app of course, but they've conditioned folks to think it's the only way to share your stuff. How do we break this? How do we get people to stop using it?

We share resources 😎

Alternative Comic Platform: comicfury.com
Comic Resource List: cartoonist.coop/resources/
Screen Tones Webcomic Website: screentonescast.com
Webcomic Website Template: rarebit.neocities.org
How to make a webcomic: thestarfishface.com/products/how...


And feel free to reply with even MORE!

allidrawscomics

I use >>>Dreamhost<<< for hosting my sites, which has Wordpress built in.

I only know the barest minimum about coding so I use the free version of the >>>Breakdance<<< plugin to design my sites. The backend looks like this:

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It takes some playing around with but it's not as intimidating as coding from scratch. It was actually even fun once I got the hang of it.

Coding webcomic navigation can be tricky so I use the free version of the >>>Toocheke<<< plugin to handle my archive and navigation buttons. There's even a >>>guide<<< to help.

Yes I have to pay for domains and hosting myself. I think it's worth it.

I use Feedly to keep track of comic updates. It's like a subscription system you can use across different sites (look into RSS feeds if you've never heard of them!)

As a personal preference I don't maintain comments on my sites anymore and simply run a discord server instead. I like it much better when folks' comments are not permanently tied to my pages. I think it allows every reader to have a focused experience catching up to the story.

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The day Webtoon started advertising in Times Square I was actually pretty upset because I KNEW it was going to bring an unhealthy culture of expectation towards webcomics. I knew it was going to define what a webcomic was to millions of people who were unaware of what they were outside of that app.

But much worse was how Webtoon normalized pressuring webcomic creators to appeal to the widest audience possible, because now normal everyday people who don't share your interests might see you and judge you and leave nasty comments on the work you care so deeply about.

You don't HAVE to use that platform. You don't HAVE to cater to that audience. You don't HAVE to design your narrative to appeal to the widest audience possible. I will tell you a secret:

You will be loved for the same things you are hated for.

In the world of entertainment the worst thing you can be is not hated, but forgettable.

Please build your own space and understand that you don't want numbers, you want people dedicated to the story only you can tell.

grossavocados
cloudabserk

genuinely i think platonic gracerocky is such a valid read, it’s one of my few ships where i continually seek out platonic fanfiction. but i keep seeing posts about how wanting them to be platonic friends is super Woke Praxis because Big Hollywood wants you to Think ryan gosling fucked the genderless inhuman rock alien.

and you know i think Big Hollywood probably does not want that!! friendship is actually the standard status quo intended read! you can just not want them to have sex. that’s fine it’s normal. it’s not rebellious to think they don’t have sex. there is no shadow authority trying to get you to have sex with a puppet that looks like a rock. honestly i wish there was because what a world that would be.

cloudabserk

actually i changed my mind. if you don’t want to have sex with a puppet that looks like a rock you automatically go straight to hell.

phm all the people in the tags confused about what prompted this so glad youve missed that particular iceberg actually unfollowed people over post after post in a “hollier than thou” tone about this yeah man Big Hollywood made the movie expecting you to get a romantic read from their relationship thats why they made the rock puppet so Goddamned Sexy