Fern Seeds and Elephants
A dear friend drew my attention to an essay by C.S. Lewis a couple of days ago, and it was too late at night to respond properly, but I feel the question she raised deserves a proper response.
"Lewis picked up on the key mythology of the liberal church: that miracles are intrinsically impossible and therefore we must re-interpret scripture as a pious fraud." - the opinion of my friend.
I so rarely have conversations like this these days.
"key":
It is probably fair to say that beliefs about miracles are key to the difference between liberal Christians and Bible-literal evangelicals. Liberals in dialogue with BLEs may well focus on this issue. However, liberals continue to exist when the BLEs leave the room. They are people of faith in their own right and are not best understood in terms of their relationship to the beliefs of BLEs, and the hostility this sometimes arouses in BLEs. I have books on my shelves by various authors I would describe as liberal Christians, and they have titles such as 'God of Surprises'; 'Accidental Saints: finding God in all the wrong people'; 'Amazing Grace: a vocabulary of faith'; or 'Wrestling with Angels'. I search in vain for 'Pious Fraud: why it's really important to know that miracles are impossible'. This is not "key" for liberals.
"mythology"
If you wanted to express your disagreement respectfully you might want to replace this word with 'idea' or 'belief'.
"miracles"
What kind of miracle are we talking about?
(1) something that inspires awe and wonder, or
(2) an event where God suspends the laws of nature to make something happen that otherwise could not happen.
Maybe this seems like a foolish question, because clearly the liberal - BLE disagreement is about type (2). I raise it because I don't fully understand the BLE's passionate need to believe that type (2) miracles are an essential part of how God acts in the world. Maybe for some Christians the regular world that God has given them just doesn't inspire awe. If they don't feel moved, if they don't feel thankful, if they don't feel that awareness of connection to something bigger than they can imagine, maybe that would explain why they want something to happen which isn't part of the regular world. What I personally feel is that the world could hardly be more miraculous than it already is.
"intrinsically impossible"
Strictly speaking, it is not possible to know that miracles (2) are intrinsically impossible. We can't prove a negative, so we can't know it for sure. I would prefer to say that type (2) miracles are irrelevant to faith. I can't base my life on something which is by definition rare, unpredictable and unreliable, any more than I can base my personal finances on the possibility of winning the lottery. I see more (1) miracles around me than I can possibly digest, and I'd rather base my faith on that. I don't think (2) miracles happen, and I don't particularly want them too. There is an obvious theological problem with type (2) miracles, because if God is in the habit of tweaking things so that children don't have to suffer, why doesn't he do it all the time? I wouldn't want to worship a manipulative tyrant, and that's how I would see a type (2) miracle God.
"pious fraud"
A fraud is a deliberate deception. That's a very serious allegation. I've never come across liberal Christians who accused the Gospel writers of simply lying.
I think the authors of the books of the Bible took the truth very seriously indeed. That doesn't mean I feel I should agree to every single word they wrote. I see an unscientific worldview, and I also see a lot of sexism, an acceptance of the institution of slavery, and several passages which are extremely hostile to Jewish people. I find that it is possible to distance oneself from those things whilst still recognising the truth that the Gospel writers were expressing. I do not believe that [Bible] - [miracles] = [pious fraud]. Is that what you believe? Are type (2) miracles really more important to you than love, forgiveness and redemption?
"Lewis picked up on the key mythology of the liberal church: that miracles are intrinsically impossible and therefore we must re-interpret scripture as a pious fraud." - the opinion of my friend.
I so rarely have conversations like this these days.
"key":
It is probably fair to say that beliefs about miracles are key to the difference between liberal Christians and Bible-literal evangelicals. Liberals in dialogue with BLEs may well focus on this issue. However, liberals continue to exist when the BLEs leave the room. They are people of faith in their own right and are not best understood in terms of their relationship to the beliefs of BLEs, and the hostility this sometimes arouses in BLEs. I have books on my shelves by various authors I would describe as liberal Christians, and they have titles such as 'God of Surprises'; 'Accidental Saints: finding God in all the wrong people'; 'Amazing Grace: a vocabulary of faith'; or 'Wrestling with Angels'. I search in vain for 'Pious Fraud: why it's really important to know that miracles are impossible'. This is not "key" for liberals.
"mythology"
If you wanted to express your disagreement respectfully you might want to replace this word with 'idea' or 'belief'.
"miracles"
What kind of miracle are we talking about?
(1) something that inspires awe and wonder, or
(2) an event where God suspends the laws of nature to make something happen that otherwise could not happen.
Maybe this seems like a foolish question, because clearly the liberal - BLE disagreement is about type (2). I raise it because I don't fully understand the BLE's passionate need to believe that type (2) miracles are an essential part of how God acts in the world. Maybe for some Christians the regular world that God has given them just doesn't inspire awe. If they don't feel moved, if they don't feel thankful, if they don't feel that awareness of connection to something bigger than they can imagine, maybe that would explain why they want something to happen which isn't part of the regular world. What I personally feel is that the world could hardly be more miraculous than it already is.
"intrinsically impossible"
Strictly speaking, it is not possible to know that miracles (2) are intrinsically impossible. We can't prove a negative, so we can't know it for sure. I would prefer to say that type (2) miracles are irrelevant to faith. I can't base my life on something which is by definition rare, unpredictable and unreliable, any more than I can base my personal finances on the possibility of winning the lottery. I see more (1) miracles around me than I can possibly digest, and I'd rather base my faith on that. I don't think (2) miracles happen, and I don't particularly want them too. There is an obvious theological problem with type (2) miracles, because if God is in the habit of tweaking things so that children don't have to suffer, why doesn't he do it all the time? I wouldn't want to worship a manipulative tyrant, and that's how I would see a type (2) miracle God.
"pious fraud"
A fraud is a deliberate deception. That's a very serious allegation. I've never come across liberal Christians who accused the Gospel writers of simply lying.
I think the authors of the books of the Bible took the truth very seriously indeed. That doesn't mean I feel I should agree to every single word they wrote. I see an unscientific worldview, and I also see a lot of sexism, an acceptance of the institution of slavery, and several passages which are extremely hostile to Jewish people. I find that it is possible to distance oneself from those things whilst still recognising the truth that the Gospel writers were expressing. I do not believe that [Bible] - [miracles] = [pious fraud]. Is that what you believe? Are type (2) miracles really more important to you than love, forgiveness and redemption?
