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Crimsonite

A valid IMA mineral species
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Formula:
PbFe3+2(PO4)2(OH)2
Colour:
deep red
Lustre:
Adamantine
Hardness:
Specific Gravity:
5.180 (Calculated)
Crystal System:
Orthorhombic
Member of:
Name:
The name is based upon the mineral’s deep red (crimson) color and the fact that it is the phosphate analogue of carminite, a mineral with a very similar deep red colour and whose name is also based upon its colour (carmine).
The P analogue of carminite. Chemically related to kintoreite and pattersonite.

In the structure, there are edge-sharing FeO6 octahedra, forming dimers. The dimers share corners to form chains along [010]. The phosphate groups connect the chains to form sheets || {001}. [8]Pb act as a link for the sheets.


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Unique IdentifiersHide

Mindat ID:
46570
Long-form identifier:
mindat:1:1:46570:8

IMA Classification of CrimsoniteHide

Classification of CrimsoniteHide

8.BH.

8 : PHOSPHATES, ARSENATES, VANADATES
B : Phosphates, etc., with additional anions, without H2O
H : With medium-sized and large cations, (OH,etc.):RO4 = 1:1

Mineral SymbolsHide

As of 2021 there are now IMA–CNMNC approved mineral symbols (abbreviations) for each mineral species, useful for tables and diagrams.

SymbolSourceReference
CmsIMA–CNMNCWarr, L.N. (2021). IMA–CNMNC approved mineral symbols. Mineralogical Magazine, 85(3), 291-320. doi:10.1180/mgm.2021.43

Pronunciation of CrimsoniteHide

Pronunciation:
PlayRecorded byCountry
Jolyon RalphUnited Kingdom

Physical Properties of CrimsoniteHide

Adamantine
Transparency:
Transparent
Colour:
Deep red
Streak:
Light purplish orange
Hardness:
3½ on Mohs scale
Tenacity:
Brittle
Cleavage:
Imperfect/Fair
likely on {101}
Fracture:
Irregular/Uneven, Splintery
Density:
5.180 g/cm3 (Calculated)

Optical Data of CrimsoniteHide

Type:
Biaxial (+)
RI values:
nα = 2.021 nβ = 2.026 nγ = 2.032
2V:
Measured: 85.5° (5)
Max. Birefringence:
δ = 0.011
Based on recorded range of RI values above.

Interference Colours:
The colours simulate birefringence patterns seen in thin section under crossed polars. They do not take into account mineral colouration or opacity.

Michel-Levy Bar The default colours simulate the birefringence range for a 30 µm thin-section thickness. Adjust the slider to simulate a different thickness.

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Surface Relief:
Moderate
Pleochroism:
Visible
Comments:
X light orange, Y light yellow, Z red brown
Comments:
Refractive indexes calculated from Gladstone-Dale relationship

Chemistry of CrimsoniteHide

Mindat Formula:
PbFe3+2(PO4)2(OH)2
Element Weights:
Element% weight
Pb38.169 %
O29.473 %
Fe20.575 %
P11.412 %
H0.371 %

Calculated from ideal end-member formula.
Common Impurities:
As,Ca,(S,Zn,V,Al,Cu)

Crystallography of CrimsoniteHide

Crystal System:
Orthorhombic
Class (H-M):
mmm (2/m 2/m 2/m) - Dipyramidal
Space Group:
Cccm
Setting:
Cccm
Cell Parameters:
a = 16.2535(13) Å, b = 7.4724(4) Å, c = 12.1533(9) Å
Ratio:
a:b:c = 2.175 : 1 : 1.626
Unit Cell V:
1476.04 ų
Z:
8
Morphology:
Blades or plates flattened on {100}, up to 0.1 mm
Twinning:
None

X-Ray Powder DiffractionHide

Geological EnvironmentHide

Paragenetic Mode(s):
Paragenetic ModeEarliest Age (Ga)
Stage 7: Great Oxidation Event<2.4
47d : [Arsenates, antimonates, selenates, bismuthinates]

Type Occurrence of CrimsoniteHide

General Appearance of Type Material:
Subparallel aggregates of deep red blades or plates flattened on {100} and up to 0.1 mm in maximum dimension.
Place of Conservation of Type Material:
Type material is deposited in the collections of the Mineral Sciences Department, Natural History Museum of Los Angeles County, 900 Exposition Boulevard, Los Angeles, California 90007, USA, catalogue number 65558
Geological Setting of Type Material:
A low-temperature secondary mineral
Associated Minerals at Type Locality:

Synonyms of CrimsoniteHide

Other Language Names for CrimsoniteHide

German:Crimsonit

Relationship of Crimsonite to other SpeciesHide

Member of:
Other Members of Carminite Group:
CarminitePbFe3+2(AsO4)2(OH)2Orth. mmm (2/m 2/m 2/m) : Cccm
SewarditeCaFe3+2(AsO4)2(OH)2Orth. mmm (2/m 2/m 2/m) : Cccm

Related Minerals - Strunz-mindat GroupingHide

8.BH.PeterchiniteZn3Zn2(OH)6As[O3(OH)3]Mon. 2/m : B2/m
8.BH.ReznitskyiteCaMg(VO4)FMon. 2/m : B2/b
8.BH.CuprozheshengitePb4CuZn2(AsO4)2(PO4)2(OH)2Tric. 1 : P1
8.BH.ZheshengitePb4ZnZn2(AsO4)2(PO4)2(OH)2Tric. 1 : P1
8.BH.05ThadeuiteCa(Mg,Fe2+)3(PO4)2(OH,F)2Orth. 2 2 2 : C2 2 21
8.BH.10PanasqueiraiteCaMg(PO4)(OH)Mon.
8.BH.10IsokiteCaMg(PO4)FMon. 2/m : B2/b
8.BH.10LacroixiteNaAl(PO4)FMon. 2/m : B2/b
8.BH.10ArsenatrotitaniteNaTi(AsO4)OMon. 2/m : B2/b
8.BH.10MaxwelliteNaFe3+(AsO4)FMon. 2/m : P2/m
8.BH.10DurangiteNaAl(AsO4)FMon. 2/m : B2/b
8.BH.10KononoviteNaMg(SO4)FMon. 2/m : B2/b
8.BH.15DrugmanitePb2Fe3+(PO4)(PO3OH)(OH)2Mon. 2/m : P21/b
8.BH.20Nigelcookite PbFe2+2V3+2(PO4)3(OH)3Mon. 2/m : P21/m
8.BH.20Plumbojohntomaite PbFe2+2Fe3+2(PO4)3(OH)3Mon. 2/m : P21/m
8.BH.20CirroliteCa3Al2(PO4)3(OH)3 (?)
8.BH.20PenikisiteBa(Mg,Fe2+,Ca)2Al2(PO4)3(OH)3Mon. 2/m : P21/m
8.BH.20PerloffiteBa(Mn2+,Fe2+)2Fe3+2(PO4)3(OH)3Mon. 2/m : P21/m
8.BH.20Bjarebyite Group
8.BH.20StrontioperloffiteSrMn2+2Fe3+2(PO4)3(OH)3Mon. 2/m : P21/m
8.BH.20PlumboperloffitePbMn2+2Fe3+2(PO4)3(OH)3Mon. 2/m : P21/m
8.BH.20JohntomaiteBaFe2+2Fe3+2(PO4)3(OH)3Mon. 2/m : P21/m
8.BH.20Bjarebyite(Ba,Sr)(Mn2+,Fe2+,Mg)2Al2(PO4)3(OH)3Mon. 2/m : P21/m
8.BH.20KulaniteBa(Fe2+,Mn2+,Mg)2(Al,Fe3+)2(PO4)3(OH)3Mon. 2/m : P21/m
8.BH.25BertossaiteLi2CaAl4(PO4)4(OH)4Orth. mmm (2/m 2/m 2/m)
8.BH.25NatropalermoiteNa2SrAl4(PO4)4(OH)4Orth. mmm (2/m 2/m 2/m)
8.BH.25PalermoiteLi2SrAl4(PO4)4(OH)4Orth. mmm (2/m 2/m 2/m)
8.BH.30SewarditeCaFe3+2(AsO4)2(OH)2Orth. mmm (2/m 2/m 2/m) : Cccm
8.BH.30CarminitePbFe3+2(AsO4)2(OH)2Orth. mmm (2/m 2/m 2/m) : Cccm
8.BH.35AdeliteCaMg(AsO4)(OH)Orth. 2 2 2 : P21 21 21
8.BH.35DuftitePbCu(AsO4)(OH)Orth. 2 2 2 : P21 21 21
8.BH.35CobaltaustiniteCaCo(AsO4)(OH)Orth. 2 2 2 : P21 21 21
8.BH.35NickelaustiniteCaNi(AsO4)(OH)Orth. 2 2 2 : P21 21 21
8.BH.35GabrielsonitePbFe3+(As3+O3)OOrth. mm2 : Pmc21
8.BH.35ConichalciteCaCu(AsO4)(OH)Orth. 2 2 2 : P21 21 21
8.BH.35ArsendescloizitePbZn(AsO4)(OH)Orth. 2 2 2 : P21 21 21
8.BH.35Duftite-alphaPbCu(AsO4)(OH)
8.BH.35GottlobiteCaMg(VO4)(OH)Orth. 2 2 2 : P21 21 21
8.BH.35AustiniteCaZn(AsO4)(OH)Orth. 2 2 2 : P21 21 21
8.BH.35HermannroseiteCaCu(PO4)(OH)Orth. 2 2 2 : P21 21 21
8.BH.35TangeiteCaCu(VO4)(OH)Orth. 2 2 2 : P21 21 21
8.BH.40ČechitePbFe2+(VO4)(OH)Orth. mmm (2/m 2/m 2/m)
8.BH.40Khorixasite(Bi0.670.33)Cu(VO4)(OH)Mon. 2/m : P2/m
8.BH.40MottramitePbCu(VO4)(OH)Orth. mmm (2/m 2/m 2/m) : Pnma
8.BH.40DescloizitePbZn(VO4)(OH)Orth. mmm (2/m 2/m 2/m) : Pnma
8.BH.40PyrobelonitePbMn2+(VO4)(OH)Orth. mmm (2/m 2/m 2/m) : Pnma
8.BH.45BayldonitePbCu3(AsO4)2(OH)2Mon. 2/m : B2/b
8.BH.45VésigniéiteBaCu3(VO4)2(OH)2Mon. 2/m : B2/m
8.BH.50PaganoiteNiBi(AsO4)OTric. 1 : P1
8.BH.55JagoweriteBaAl2(PO4)2(OH)2Tric.
8.BH.55HarrisoniteCa(Fe2+,Mg)6(PO4)2(SiO4)2Trig. 3m (3 2/m) : R3m
8.BH.60AttakoliteCaMn2+Al4(SiO3OH)(PO4)3(OH)4Mon. 2/m : B2/m
8.BH.65LeningraditePbCu3(VO4)2ClOrth. mmm (2/m 2/m 2/m) : Ibam
8.BH.70KatiarsiteKTiO(AsO4)Orth. mm2 : Pna21
8.BH.70YurgensoniteK2SnTiO2(AsO4)2Orth. mm2 : Pna21
8.BH.75MelanarsiteK3Cu7Fe3+O4(AsO4)4Mon. 2/m : B2/b
8.BH.80EvseeviteNa2Mg(AsO4)FOrth. mmm (2/m 2/m 2/m) : Pbcn
8.BH.80MoraskoiteNa2Mg(PO4)FOrth. mmm (2/m 2/m 2/m) : Pbcn
8.BH.85PiccoliiteNaCaMn3+2(AsO4)2O(OH)Orth. mmm (2/m 2/m 2/m) : Pbcm

Other InformationHide

Health Risks:
No information on health risks for this material has been entered into the database. You should always treat mineral specimens with care.

Internet Links for CrimsoniteHide

References for CrimsoniteHide

Localities for CrimsoniteHide

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Locality ListHide

- This locality has map coordinates listed. - This locality has estimated coordinates. ⓘ - Click for references and further information on this occurrence. ? - Indicates mineral may be doubtful at this locality. - Good crystals or important locality for species. - World class for species or very significant. (TL) - Type Locality for a valid mineral species. (FRL) - First Recorded Locality for everything else (eg varieties). Struck out - Mineral was erroneously reported from this locality. Faded * - Never found at this locality but inferred to have existed at some point in the past (e.g. from pseudomorphs).

All localities listed without proper references should be considered as questionable.
USA (TL)
 
  • Nevada
    • Humboldt County
      • Iron Point Mining District
        • Valmy
Hålenius et al. (2015) +1 other reference
 
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