Talk:Orion (spacecraft)

We need to update a lot of old info

The intro states that this article is about the MPCV version of Orion, but some of the references are about the older versions. We need to put the older stuff in some sort of "history" section and make sure the main stuff is current. I think the most egregious problem is the crew size. MPCV has a crew size of four. I will start making changes. I'm fairly sure that the Orion Reference Guide should be the main reference. Comments? -Arch dude (talk) 21:24, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

I removed two ancient refs. Each was used only once and the info is obsolete, but someone might want them in the history section? -Arch dude (talk) 21:56, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

References

Modularity of Orion

Found that very nice image on X. Could make a nice diagram for the article. Hektor (talk) 08:10, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

Flywheel exercise

Given that the crew's flywheel training has gained pretty broad coverage, I suggest we make an addition to the Crew module chapter, e.g. at the end of the second paragraph, such as:

The Orion's flywheel exercise device

The crew module includes a compact flywheel-based exercise device used by astronauts during flight to perform both aerobic and resistance exercises. The system uses a cable-driven mechanism to generate adjustable resistance while meeting the spacecraft's strict mass and volume constraints.

References

As I have a slight COI here, I'd prefer if some other editor would consider publishing an addition. /Urbourbo (talk) 14:58, 9 April 2026 (UTC)

Done Likeanechointheforest (talk) 18:23, 11 April 2026 (UTC)

@Likeanechointheforest Thanks! As mentioned on Talk:Artemis II, see also Draft:Orion flywheel exercise device in case you have some time to consider if that merits publishing as well. All the best, Urbourbo (talk) 09:59, 12 April 2026 (UTC)

Image discussion

@Jadebenn, you say: Going by Apollo CSM, the SM should be shown. Also, the tight crop is ugly. That's an imperfect comparison. The Apollo Service Module does not have a standalone page. The European Service Module does. That means this page is (and must be) largely about the the Orion crew module alone. It makes since to keep the focus on the CM and not the ESM. As for the tight crop being ugly: that's your personal opinion and one I don't share. RickyCourtney (talk) 23:51, 10 April 2026 (UTC)

On the official NASA page describing Orion, they include the ESM as a component. https://www.nasa.gov/humans-in-space/orion-spacecraft/orion-overview/

I don't understand why you want to exclude the ESM anyway. I know the terminology is inconsistent, but I hear Orion used to not only refer to the capsule itself but the complete spacecraft assembly (a use analogous to "Apollo CSM"). – Jadebenn (talk · contribs · subpages) 01:16, 11 April 2026 (UTC)

But that’s not how we’re currently handling it. If we are going to have a separate page for the ESM we shouldn’t repeat it all here. If you disagree, propose a page merge. RickyCourtney (talk) 01:20, 11 April 2026 (UTC)

That still doesn't explain why you want an overly narrow crop of an image. I notice am the second editor to reverse it. It does not look good. – Jadebenn (talk · contribs · subpages) 07:07, 11 April 2026 (UTC)

Again, this is largely a personal opinion. My thinking was that a tighter crop keeps the focus on the crew module. I also feel that the current image has too much black “headroom” at the top of the image. RickyCourtney (talk) 14:41, 11 April 2026 (UTC)