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Mark #7, as he was by Lampard and Dyche. Also Jurassics?

Three different managers over 4 years have spent thousands of hours watching Patto play and train, and all came to the same verdict — no thanks.

Chris @ 70 –

My sweet summer child. There’s so many more bad ones I’ve read in 17 years here.

Paul G @ a lot of posts –

I am flattered you took the time to respond with such a massive post.
Quick answers by paragraph:
1. True. It wasn’t a lap of honor for Seamus. But who do you think was the focus of the lap of honor? Maybe the amazing servant who we bought for 60K?
2. The “you’re not here” lark got a bit boring of a “local flex” for me years ago. Yes, I’m in FL. Well played.
3. I find it appalling, still as I write this, for people to not stay and clap off a legend at the end of his career. How is this a haughty attitude? See my response to Darren regarding his post and how I recognize this might be cultural. And I’d add, if I’m embarrassed it’s because I actually fucking care…
4. I’m a dude on a website giving my opinion. That’s who I think I am.
5. Petulant in this regard: We didn’t win, we / I didn’t get the result we / I thought we / I deserved, I’m not stickin’ round to clap this team never mind a retiring class act of a man, I’m off. I see that as petulant and self-absorbed. I thought Seamus deserved the fans seeing him off.

I do admire your defense of your actions and the majority of the fanbase. You do so with emotion, straightforwardness, and verve. As I said to Darren, this has to be a cultural thing that I just can’t get my head around at all.

I don’t understand it. I didn’t like it. I thought it made our fans look very, very poor quite honestly. If that makes my self-righteous, haughty, whatever, so be it. I could cross the big ol’ pond and have a beer with many Blues on this site, and just so you know, I will never, ever change my opinion of this situation. I would tell every one of them directly, man to man, it was embarrassing to me personally. I can not comprehend why the fans would leave. It is foreign to me on every level, and my revulsion of it will not subside. In my world you just… don’t… do… that… So…

Have a nice day.

UTFT

What a nightmare!
We need progressive players capable of playing for a progressive manager.
Pep would have us relegated because our back 5/6 can’t play football.
I hate Moyes’ football but there’s no denying there are significantly better this season than under Dyche? And it’s +KDH with the same team.
It’s a bunch of relegation fodder and without the investment that’s been abandoned for the last few years, I fear it’ll always be a bit shit.
But then I’m getting used to it 36 years after rocking up to Goodison to see them lose.
UTFT sigh x

“I’m shocked, I tell you… a league champion whose owner doesn’t go to the games!”

But does fund this seasons spending to near £300 million Mike.
I could not care less if he goes the game, as long as he spends to the absolute maximum rules allow.

I think he has, unfortunately, generally been disappointing when he has been given opportunities over the years and you need to be careful extrapolating from those 3 games he started.

We simply haven’t seen enough to make bold claims either way. It seems peculiar that he is getting chosen for the Scottish squad when he clearly isn’t fancied by Moyes. I hope he does get to play so we can make a better assessment of whether he’s been harshly treated.