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Guy Katz

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Guy Katz (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This article seems to very obviously have been written by the article subject (see its edit history). It was deleted from the German Wikipedia for lack of notability and self-promotion. The English article has a lot of references and looks legit at a glance, but these references do not seem to actually check out. I can't tell that any of them are actually independent articles about this person. Most are articles he wrote, listings in directories or just quote him once but are actually about some organization he's promoting. Some of the references are to top-level sites that don't mention him. Most are error 404 or redirects at this point and I can't find them in archive.org/archive.today, including for articles that are supposedly just a year old. Here2rewrite (talk) 18:42, 28 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per Bearian User:Easternsaharareview this 23:26, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sexual and gender-based violence against Israeli hostages during the Gaza war

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This article appears to be a content fork. The material presented here is already fully covered in existing articles:

Sexual and gender-based violence in the October 7 attacks

Gaza war hostage crisis

Gaza war hostage crisis#Treatment_of_hostages

The article does not present substantial new, independently notable information. Instead, it basically duplicates content that is already included in those pages, or that can be appropriately added to them alone, meaning it has issues meeting WP:NOTCONTENT, WP:UNDUE. Not only that but it seems to me to more specifically be a WP:POVFORK, functioning as a separate page for material that fits naturally within other, well-established articles, apparently for the purpose of emphasis. The presentation of the material as-is also does not, imo, adhere to WP:NPOV.

Because the article represents a redundant and non-notable fork, and because its content is more appropriately handled within the existing articles listed above, the article does not meet WP:GNG and I believe deletion is appropriate. Any verifiable, neutrally presented, policy-compliant information can of course be merged into the relevant parent articles where appropriate. Smallangryplanet (talk) 11:47, 25 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep: This is not a POV fork under WP:CFORK (where exactly is the POV here?). The two topics are not the same subject:
  • Sexual and gender-based violence in the October 7 attacks deals with crimes committed during the attack itself (one day: October 7, 2023)
  • Sexual and gender-based violence against Israeli hostages during the Gaza war concerns abuse that occurred during months of captivity, which is a separate phase of the conflict, with different circumstances, timelines (October 8 2023 – October 2025), sources, and findings.
Wikipedia already treats the October 7 attacks and the Gaza war as distinct events (the latter initiated by the first), and each has its own standalone article. It is entirely consistent for the sexual-violence coverage to be divided the same way. A POV fork occurs when content is split to promote a particular viewpoint, but here, the split follows event boundaries and chronology, not POV. These are two distinct areas of documented abuse, even if the perpetrating groups are the same (Hamas/PIJ and so on, though on October 7 some of the sexual violence was carried out by civilian Gazan residents apparently). BlookyNapsta (talk) 07:47, 26 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
A content fork exists when a new article is created on a topic that is already handled, or can readily be handled, within existing articles. This is explicitly covered under WP:CFORK. In this case, every substantive point in the article is already covered or can be covered in established articles, as I've already shown in my nomination. RS treat sexual and gender-based abuse of hostages as part of the Gaza hostage crisis and sexual violence that began on October 7 and was then "ongoing", as per the UN reports. The October 7 article does not only cover events of that specific day for this reason, and imo it shouldn't. (We've had extensive discussions about this on the talk page for that article.)

If your point is that the Sexual and gender-based violence in the October 7 attacks article is too narrow in title or scope, the correct venue is a move request (to change the title) or a discussion on that article's talk page about its structure and framing.

Re: Wikipedia already treats the October 7 attacks and the Gaza war as distinct events (the latter initiated by the first), and each has its own standalone article. We already have an article specifically devoted to the hostages and their treatment during the Gaza war, where the content also naturally fits, and which along with the other article also already contains much of the content duplicated here. It is Gaza hostage crisis, and Gaza_war_hostage_crisis#Treatment_of_hostages. This is why I said it appears to be a WP:POVFORK, as it was made with duplicated materials from already existing articles and with a subject that fits naturally within other, well-established articles, apparently for the purpose of emphasis. Smallangryplanet (talk) 12:39, 26 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep We're seeing one of those articles that should both be an independent article and a section in another article. I'm seeing significant coverage from 2023 to 2025, meaning this is independently notable. I also think it would serve our readers better if we separated any sexual violence committed on the day of the attack versus the long captivity afterwards into different articles, as these are two different events. Bremps... 22:16, 26 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Topic is big enough and notable enough and is not really covered by any of the other topics mentioned. Nehushtani (talk) 06:52, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. It definitely seems notable enough on its own - there are plenty of sources and the content is big enough to not be a stub (and big enough that giving it the amount of depth that Wikipedia could give it would make it too big to fit comfortably in the Gaza war hostage crisis section on treatment of hostages). I also can't say that I'm convinced by the argument that the material is already covered in the Sexual and gender-based violence in the October 7 attacks - I feel like the content in the "In captivity in Gaza" sub-section of the "Alleged acts by location" sub-section fits somewhat awkwardly there. The split into a separate article seems justified. NHCLS (talk) 09:34, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Sexual violence committed against Israeli hostages is a distinct, well-documented subject that cannot be incorporated into another article without obscuring its scope, patterns, and gendered nature. Merging would collapse a unique set of facts into broader events, erasing critical information and contradicting established principles for documenting sexual and gender-based violence as a topic that requires independent analysis. Furthermore, sexual violence in a hostage situation is fundamentally different from sexual violence in a massacre context: these are distinct cases, each shaped by its own conditions of coercion, control, and abuse of power. Treating them as interchangeable diminishes the accuracy and integrity of the record. שלומית ליר (talk) 16:38, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    This appears to be an LLM-generated response as it is not replying to what the AfD is about. We already have two pages that contain the information that was recently spun out into this POV fork and that are about this very subject, yet the response you have posted here is replying to an AfD for a long-established page with unique content that has no other page where it can fit without erasure.
    Why do we need to have a third page on this subject when we already have a long-established sexual and gender-based violence against Israelis page containing this content, and another one that is specifically devoted to the hostages which already includes their testimonies of sexual violence?
    Please respond to the actual case instead of the one that was responded to here. Raskolnikov.Rev (talk) 19:33, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    As I wrote, I find these cases unique and deserving of an article of their own. When writing about those who undergo sexual violence, the issue of silencing is often present; the cost of such silencing is the repetition of offenses and a weakening of victims’ trust in the ability of public institutions to acknowledge and address their experiences.
    Having a separate article ensures that these events are documented with the depth, clarity, and visibility they require. שלומית ליר (talk) 18:30, 28 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    WP:ITSNOTABLE but packaged in ai slop User:Easternsaharareview this 23:15, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]


  • Keep Surprised that this article has been nominated for deletion, as it clearly does not warrant such an extreme action. As observed above by several commenters, the sexual violence against hostages is a distinct and quite serious subject that is amply sources and certainly does not fit the criteria of a POV fork. Removing it would fail to do justice to the subject matter, and it would further enhance Wikipedia's growing reputation for non-neutrality and hostility to Israel. Coretheapple (talk) 17:38, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Correction: shud be "amply sourced." Apologize for misspelling. Coretheapple (talk) 23:04, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep I fail to see how this is a content fork. This subject matter is significant and noteworthy enough to merit its own article, as it has been covered by many outlets. Sexual abuse of the hostages also should not be generalized as just "treatment of hostages" or merged into the "hostage crisis" - doing so would (unintentionally, I presume the nom was in good faith) diminish the impact of the abuse. TheInevitables (talk) 18:41, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    WP:BELONG and WP:ITSNOTABLE User:Easternsaharareview this 23:17, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - This is quite obviously a content fork made by an editor for the purpose of emphasizing the topic despite the fact that we already have two pages wholly devoted to it, one for sexual and gender-based violence against Israelis since October 7, and one for the hostages and their treatment in captivity which includes the same content. This same editor keeps making what appear to be LLM-generated pages duplicating content to emphasize topics that already have pages covering them. No attempt has been made to argue for why we need a third separate page on the same topic grounded in any policy.
The only attempt at a policy argument I've seen, aside from saying that it shows "bias against Israel" to delete a clear content fork made for POV purposes, is that the general article we have on the sexual violence has a title that implies an overly narrow scope. Yet we already have the same content included on that page, and we do so because the sexual violence against hostages is always covered in the main RS we have on it as part of the sexual violence that began on October 7. Look at the UN, Human Rights and journalistic reports on it and they all cover it in this context.
However, if this is the main problem, as Smallangryplanet said the proper venue for that is an RM to change the title to something like "Sexual and gender-based violence against Israelis since October 7". Moreover, we already have a page devoted to the hostages and their treatment in captivity specifically which already includes the testimonies and the sexual violence. Raskolnikov.Rev (talk) 19:28, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: As already said this is clearly a topic on its own. Anyone can see, that this topic needs an article of its own, as the issue it important enough, notable enough, as happens in many other articles on Wikipedia, where a segment of one article becomes an article on its own. That without stating the obvious, that the sexual abuse, doesn't truly fall under any of the topic names of the other articles also this is not a POV fork under WP:CFORK (where exactly is the POV here?). The two topics are not the same subject:
Sexual and gender-based violence in the October 7 attacks deals with crimes committed during the attack itself (one day: October 7, 2023)
Sexual and gender-based violence against Israeli hostages during the Gaza war concerns abuse that occurred during months of captivity, which is a separate phase of the conflict, with different circumstances, timelines (October 8 2023 – October 2025), sources, and findings. Wikitalovin1 (talk) 18:18, 29 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The only words that appear to be this editor's own are Keep: As already said this is... and "...also...." Per WP:NOTVOTE, !votes in formal discussions should be representative of individual views rather than simply an agreement with what has already been said, or indeed the text that has already been written. IMO, Wikitalovin1's comment should be discounted as a derivative restatement of existing arguments, not counted as a separate Keep !vote itself. Smallangryplanet (talk) 19:28, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, in fact i started my comment with alredy said Wikitalovin1 (talk) 19:31, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You didn't add any clear indication you were quoting, and you combined content from two separate comments in a way that could be taken to mean you were presenting it as your own. Please have a look at WP:DELAFD (and/or WP:REPEAT) - this is a discussion, not a counted vote, so repeating others' arguments (even or especially if you do not say you are quoting them) verbatim is not advised. Smallangryplanet (talk) 19:57, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I suggest collapsing your argumentation here, as it lengthy, insubstantive and interrupts the flow of discussion. Coretheapple (talk) 23:19, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Whoops, thought I had. Apologies. Smallangryplanet (talk) 23:30, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Ynet and the Jerusalem Post should not be used by this article. These have a vested interested in creating propaganda for Israel. this bbc article which the article cites is the BBC saying that the Israeli 'experts' are saying that it occured, not BBC themselves. These 'experts' hold the WP:FRINGE belief that October 7 was a genocide, so they should not be paid. Thoes cited in the BBC report: Dinah Project, Ruth Halperin-Kaddar, Sharon Zagagi-Pinhas, and Nava Ben-Or are not independent from this topic. this middle east eye and the cnn report should be removed per WP:SYNTH, they do not mention sexual assault or violence. this apnews article is debunked (pbs ei (commentary on nyt)) so it should not be used for the same reason we don't include old studies that say cigarettes are good for you or that asbestos is safe for household use, WP:OUTDATED. Similarly, I think most of these articles can be disregarded because they have been exposed for lying since they were published before the pbs article (22 may 2024). Then, i think the remaining ones (2-3 citations actually on the topic) are based on the outdated reports, and mention the topic in passing, thus it does not meet WP:GNG User:Easternsaharareview this 23:11, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete I can see both sides, but after carefully reviewing the content, sourcing and arguments, I believe a deletion is in order. I shall explain why. The new page was copied vebatim from the section devoted to the subject on the main page. The amount of content there falls well short of justifying a standalone page.
This goes to the point of distinctiveness and notability cited by multiple editors. I believe this misunderstands the sourcing. There is news coverage of the now four hostages and their testimonies. However, the substantive, best quality secondary sourcing such as the United Nations and other reports, all uniformly present sexual violence against hostages as part of the broader pattern of sexual and gender-based violence (SGBV) that began on October 7 and continued afterward. The page itself relies on these reports. We ought to follow this model of presentation as per WP:RS and WP:V. Moreover, separating the topic from that broader pattern dilutes its significance by erroneously framing it as an separate, distinct phenomenon rather than an integral part and extension of said pattern.
Even if independent notability had been established, this alone does not require or justify a standalone page, and declining to create one does not diminish the gravity of the subject. Rather the opposite, as I explained. This case reflects exactly what is recommended in WP:NOPAGE, which notes that at times it is better to cover a notable topic as part of a larger page about a broader topic, with more context (and doing so in no way disparages the importance of the topic). Does other information provide needed context? Sometimes, a notable topic can be covered better as part of a larger article, where there can be more complete context that would be lost on a separate page. Sometimes, several related topics, each of them similarly notable, can be collected into a single page, where the relationships between them can be better appreciated than if they were each a separate page.
My final concern is that the page by its design consists largely on repeating individual testimonies from news reports. These are already covered proportionately, succinctly, and with proper context in the existing parent article, and as presented here raise issues of WP:NOTCATALOG, WP:NOTMEMORIAL, and WP:VL. I agree with @Oaktree b who expressed worry about a page that by its topic-design is set to function as a mere repository of individual sexual violence testimonies quoted at great length, which also runs against WP:OVERQUOTING.
I do, however, believe the parent article should be renamed. I support Sexual and gender-based violence against Israelis since October 7. This matches how we title the equivalent page concerning SGBV against Palestinians, where we specify both the victim group and the time period: Sexual and gender-based violence against Palestinians during the Gaza war. This should have been done long ago, and renders moot the claim that the main page is too narrow in scope. Lf8u2 (talk) 02:31, 1 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I think this article is very important in terms of raising the awareness of these terrible actions by Hamas. The sources are very clear about the facts, which are also very different from the October 7th story. The Israeli hostages were kept in captivity - some of them for more than two years - and the conditions and the atmosphere changed completely in a way that makes maintaining a separate article a very justifiable decision. LidDahl (talk) 13:52, 1 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This argument boils down to WP:BELONG. It does not counter the arguments about WP:NOPAGE but only says that the page should exist because Hamas is bad. That is not based on policy. User:Easternsaharareview this 23:19, 1 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete or the very least merge the Sexual and gender-based violence against Israeli hostages during the Gaza war article with the Sexual and gender-based violence in the October 7 attacks page and then renamed the article as “Sexual and gender-based violence against Israelis during the Gaza war”. Plus, I agree with some of the comments here, stating that the article is basically content fork. Qhairun (talk) 14:07, 1 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge with Sexual and gender-based violence in the October 7 attacks - I'm persuaded by Lf8u2's comment above. I support Qhairun's proposed title for the article though: "Sexual and gender-based violence against Israelis during the Gaza war". Samuelshraga (talk) 18:16, 1 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
To be clear, and this also goes to @Qhairun, this CFORK was copied directly from the already existing section on the main page, so there is no need to merge. There is nothing new here. Raskolnikov.Rev (talk) 16:56, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
When I say merge, what I'm getting at is that the title of the target page should be changed to reflect the inclusion of this content. I don't know if/how it's possible to find consensus to move a page's title in the AfD discussion of a separate page, but that's what I wanted to convey. If however the main page remains as Sexual and gender-based violence in the October 7 attacks, then my comment should be taken as an argument for (second choice) keep, and the material shouldn't be duplicated on the other page. I think we do better with a single page for this material though, hence my !vote. Samuelshraga (talk) 20:24, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Moving a separate page to a different title is outside of the scope of AfD Katzrockso (talk) 13:14, 3 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. This is not a POV fork, because the split is not based on a point of view but on facts. Sexual violence committed on the day of the attack and sexual violence committed during captivity are two different things, documented by different sources and investigated differently. Merging into a single article would hurt the subject and create confusion, which would likely harm neutrality rather than improve it. Keeping the topics separate allows a more balanced, proportional, and accurate presentation, in line with WP:NPOV and with the way reliable sources themselves present the material. Eliezer1987 (talk) 07:43, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This appears to be a LLM-generated response, and it does not engage with the content of the AfD. The user @Eliezer1987 has stated that they use LLMs for their edits in the past after other editors took notice of it. So you end up with a confused mangle of claims that have nothing to do with this AfD:
"This is not a POV fork, because the split is not based on a point of view but on facts." This is not what a POV Fork is, and the section the fork was copied directly from has the exact same RS-basis as it was a copy.
"documented by different sources and investigated differently" They are in fact documented by the exact same sources and investigated in the same way (first-hand testimonies), in the most comprehensive reports we have, which state explicitly that reliance on such testimonies is primary given the lack of physical evidence for various reasons (mistakes made by first responders, mismanagement, etc.).
"Merging into a single article would hurt the subject and create confusion, which would likely harm neutrality rather than improve it", this is not about a merger. The content for this CFORK was copied verbatim from the already existing page, and rather than creating confusion, it does precisely the opposite by placing it in context.
"Keeping the topics separate allows a more balanced, proportional, and accurate presentation, in line with WP:NPOV and with the way reliable sources themselves present the material." This is simply inaccurate as the RS do not present the material in this way at all, and the question of balance, proportionality and accuracy are entirely irrelevant as the content of the page was copied verbatim from the already existing section.
This is why I said to another editor who also appears to have used a LLM-generator to avoid doing so especially for AfDs because you end up generating responses that have no bearing on the actual content of the case. Raskolnikov.Rev (talk) 16:54, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Well, it wasn't written by LLM!! and the claim that it was is not only insulting, but also contributes nothing to the discussion. The fact that I mentioned previously that I used LLM does not mean that this is what was done here and even the opposite. Eliezer1987 (talk) 17:28, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This doesn't read like LLM-generated text to me, did you use a tool on it that made you come to that conclusion? Nor is the argument confused, even though I disagree about the benefits of keeping the topic separate. Samuelshraga (talk) 20:31, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes I used multiple LLM-checkers. Grammarly says 53% AI, ZeroGPT 100%, Scribrr 51%. However as they say they didn't use an LLM, I'll accept that. I still disagree regarding the quality of the arguments for reasons mentioned. Raskolnikov.Rev (talk) 22:03, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
So we're now taking up space on an AfD page openly speculating that a user is utilizing artificial intelligence to craft their responses? And flinging some essay at them as if it is policy? I really wish editors would confine themselves to the merits and not clog AfD pages with this kind of thing. I request that you hat this. Thank you. Coretheapple (talk) 22:28, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep As these are completely different topics. There is no POV fork. Each one is in a different category, one speaks of the day of the attacks, the other speaks of the time the hostages were in captivity. The relation between the two is cause and consequence, but again, each one is notable for itself. It like saying all Wikipedia articles are POV fork of The Big Bang. Denisaptr (talk) 09:01, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This is just blatantly false, none of the 'victims' whose claims are listed here have Wikipedia articles of their own and do not have enough coverage to pass notability. This is just talking about WP:GNG, not the more restrictive WP:NEVENT User:Easternsaharareview this 00:35, 3 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Doczilla Ohhhhhh, no! 23:22, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Sexual and gender-based violence in the October 7 attacks so editors can selectively merge any relevant content to that page with the possibility for a page move, per WP:NOPAGE. The issue here is that this topic is effectively a list of specific survivor testimonies of hostages captured during the 7 October attacks. This is obviously currently better covered in the greater context of the October 7 attacks and further coverage of the evolution of sexual violence during the conflict, which is already covered at the aforementioned page. Hostages were taken as a result of the 7 October attacks, so it makes sense to cover all of this at the same page rather than arbitrarily split based on whether the sexual violence took place on 7 October or later - the source material does not distinguish these categories explicitly. As other editors have noted, this article duplicates much of the material at Sexual and gender-based violence in the October 7 attacks#In captivity in Gaza, so the really the redirect should be targeted there.
I would probably support a move to change the destination pages article title to expand its scope, but that is not within the scope of this AfD.
If the material at the page becomes burdensome or further information emerges, the topic may be spunout again (something I believe will likely occur eventually) Katzrockso (talk) 13:27, 3 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

2023–2024 Gaza Strip preterm births

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This topic doesn't meet the notability criteria for an article as an independent topic per WP:SUSTAINED and WP:NOTNEWSPAPER; the only discussion of the topics in this article was news coverage from when individual events occurred. It also comprises mostly of duplicated information from Attacks on health facilities during the Gaza war, which provides context for this topic .

Article quality is also poor(status listed as ongoing despite being titled 2023-2024, no attempt to distinguish between sources that describe babies that were a result of pre-term births and those not, major discussion of topics that aren't the subject matter of article like non pre-term births and embryos). Originalcola (talk) 06:50, 23 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Withdraw by nominator - Consensus seems to be to expand scope of article instead. Originalcola (talk) 05:43, 4 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I had previously nominated this topic for deletion a year ago, but since then there has been next to no additional coverage outside the news reporting at the time on the topic of this article. Originalcola (talk) 09:57, 23 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, improve and expand. Reproductive health during the Gaza war is a notable topic with plenty of sustained academic research ([1], [2] [3] + dozens and dozens of articles on maternal + neonatal health in Gaza) that has sustained coverage, this article should be expanded in scope to encompass this broader topic per WP:ATD-E, which states "If editing can address all relevant reasons for deletion, this should be done rather than deleting the page". The instances of preterm births are just one example of how reproductive health has been impacted in the Gaza war and offers a great start for a broader article. WP:AFD is not cleanup, editors should aim to improve this page rather than delete reliably sourced encyclopedic content. Katzrockso (talk) 09:44, 23 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This isn't an article on reproductive health in the Gaza Strip in general. The broader topics are already covered in other articles; Gaza humanitarian crisis and Women in the Gaza war discuss child health and reproductive health respectively. On this specific topic with the limited time frame considered in the article there doesn't exist significant coverage in reliable sources. Originalcola (talk) 10:16, 23 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Katzrockso Has brought forward some great sources on the wider topic of Reproductive health in the Gaza war. I do think the current article is too narrow in scope both by time and by topic, but could easily be moved to this title and be a valid WP:SPINOUT. There is an article here, and deletion isn’t the solution. Refocusing the article would be better. Note that reproductive health is about babies and potentially men as well (if there are fertility studies) and not just women so this would not be a sub-topic of Women in the Gaza war. It also would be UNDUE to discuss this in-depth in the page on the wider humanitarian crises.4meter4 (talk) 14:13, 23 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Is this suggestion not tantamount to just creating a new article from scratch? I'd certainly be willing to take this AfD down if this is the view of other editors, but there was a move request before that didn't amount in a name change and it feels odd to argue to keep an article with such a specific sub-topic on the basis that it would be notable if the name were changed so much as to completely change the content of the article. Is the practice not to delete this article for now? Originalcola (talk) 17:47, 23 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    It is not typical Wikipedia practice to delete reliably sourced and encyclopedic information simply because we don't have a good place to house that information right now, and to the extent that that occurs, it's a grave error. Katzrockso (talk) 01:48, 24 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    At present, it's not structured like an encyclopedia, it reads similar to news and is also mostly sourced by news coverage. Your own argument is expand the scope of the article to cover a broader topic of reproductive health in the Gaza War/Genocide and that's something I'd be interested in helping out with, but I'd prefer to start a new draft for that article instead of expanding this article. We also do have some alternative places to house the information as well, the 2 articles I mentioned earlier already exist and cover preterm births and reproductive health. Originalcola (talk) 04:31, 24 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Those articles would not be a proper merge target for this information, unless you are proposing splitting up the information in this article between separate articles. Katzrockso (talk) 09:38, 24 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm not proposing a merger, because there's nothing in this article to merge that isn't on those other articles already. I'm just trying to say that expanding this article wouldn't be my first preference if I were to add content on reproductive health. Originalcola (talk) 15:59, 24 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep and would also support a move to "Gaza war preterm births" given that there's information on the page from after 2024 and there's sustained SIGCOV about these births during the war. Smallangryplanet (talk) 09:21, 24 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, TheInevitables (talk) 18:51, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: I agree with Katzrockso's view. There's well-sourced and detailed information on this, sufficient enough so that a separate page is justified. It's a widely reported on occurence throughout the strip, too. So it makes sense there's a page focusing on it. Genabab (talk) 18:45, 1 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep:It already passed an AfD? per WP:RENOM, you need a useful statement thats fundamentally different. Also, too much sourcing to suggest deletion without additional context. User:Bluethricecreamman (Talk·Contribs) 21:30, 1 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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