Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Yombe language (disambiguation)

Yombe language (disambiguation) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log | edits since nomination)
(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs· FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Only lists two items, with one being treated on the project as the primary topic (automatically linked from here), so very close to WP:G14 – unnecessary disambiguation. A dab template on top of Kongo language does the work just fine. ~ IvanScrooge98 (talk) 15:07, 24 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Redirect: to Yombe. These are two different languages of the same name which can easily be confused, and there are also two people group of the same name. Both languages and people group of the same name are not related to each other. At very least, redirect to the said page. I am the creator of the AfD disambiguation page. Tumbuka Arch (talk) 17:02, 24 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    We are discussing a page that has “language” in its title. The peoples per se are already left out. ~ IvanScrooge98 (talk) 17:06, 24 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Maybe keep... Yombe language redirects to Kongo language. Oddly Kongo language is not even listed at Yombe language (disambiguation) and it is apparently the primary topic. If its added there are three topics, making the need for the dab page clear.4meter4 (talk) 17:38, 24 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Kongo language is listed. Anyway, the alternative is moving to Yombe language and change the automatic link from the module above. ~ IvanScrooge98 (talk) 17:43, 24 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I see. It was confusing the way it was laid out as typically a primary topic gets linked at the top of the dab page. The alternative you just suggested seems like a good choice.4meter4 (talk) 18:02, 24 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    @4meter4, @IvanScrooge98, please explain to me as you would to a five-year old. This is because there are actually two different languages that share the name “Yombe language”. They are not the same, neither do they have the same history, and at least one of them is not part of Kongo language at all. At the moment, “Yombe language” redirects to “Kongo language”, but that redirect is only correct for one usage of the name. As for the otherr language, it is completely inaccurate. If we move this page to the base title, we would end up sending readers to the wrong language. That’s exactly why the disambiguation page was created, to separate two unrelated languages that happen to use the same name. Instead of deleting it or moving it, it’s better to keep the disambiguation page so that both topics are properly directed. So currently, I am leaning towards "keep". -Tumbuka Arch (talk) 16:50, 25 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    As I said, if we conclude that there is no defined primary topic, we move the dab page to Yombe language and fix the automatic links. It’s an alternative. The only thing that is certain is that when there are only two topics involved the situation shouldn’t stay the way it currently is. ~ IvanScrooge98 (talk) 17:14, 25 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    And by the way, when you created the dab page, the first thing you should have done was to link to the it from Kongo language, which you didn’t. That also made it almost completely useless. But in general, if between two topics one is primary, there is no need for a dab page because a simple link from a note at the primary article – like the one I added to Kongo language – suffices. ~ IvanScrooge98 (talk) 17:22, 25 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • If Kongo language, the current target of Yombe languageYombe language, is truly the WP:PTOPIC, then this is a no-brainer delete per WP:ONEOTHER. If neither is primary, then it's a no-brainer move to the base title per WP:MALPLACED. I don't know enough about the topic to weigh in on which is preferable, but I don't see how there's really any other option here. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 05:28, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    And just to note, the current target really is one of the two entries at the current dab page, just piped. Also, redirecting as suggested would make no sense for a "(disambiguation)" titled page like this. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 05:29, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 02:47, 2 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]