Talk:Jude Thaddeus the Apostle

Four Judes in bible

This article states that Catholics believe that all 4 Judes mentioned in the bible are the same person. However, the U.S.Conference of Catholic Bishops page (usccb.org) states that the church does NOT believe that all four are the same person. See quote below from Jude, THE LETTER OF JUDE | USCCB:

This letter is by its address attributed to “Jude, a slave of Jesus Christ and brother of James” (Jude 1). Since he is not identified as an apostle, this designation can hardly be meant to refer to the Jude or Judas who is listed as one of the Twelve (Lk 6:16; Acts 1:13; cf. Jn 14:22). The person intended is almost certainly the other Jude, named in the gospels among the relatives of Jesus (Mt 13:55; Mk 6:3), and the James who is listed there as his brother is the one to whom the Letter of James is attributed (see the Introduction to James). Nothing else is known of this Jude, and the apparent need to identify him by reference to his better-known brother indicates that he was a rather obscure personage in the early church. 68.212.64.32 (talk) 21:38, 11 May 2023 (UTC)

page title change

Ok guys. There’s no move button for me so i ask you guys to change the title name for me so please change it to Thaddeus because people can get confused with Judas so please. Also, there are lots of Judes in the Bible Mahal ko si Jesus (talk) 06:50, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

@Mahal ko si Jesus: Try starting a requested move. 🌳 Balsam Cottonwood (talk) ✝ 09:59, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

Move discussion in progress

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But Bartholomew is someone else. This page needs clarity and changing the title will help so much in that. This page should not confuse the different Judes. The other Jude who was brother of 'James' (ie. Jacob) was one of the four sons of Joseph and Mary (see Matthew 13:55 & Mark 6:3), ie. half-brothers to Jesus. But this Jude Thaddeus must have been a different Jude, since those four brothers didn't follow him before his death (Matthew 12:46). Zohre6 (talk) 07:44, 13 February 2026 (UTC)

discrepancy re Jude's celebration/ commemoration dates in the Eastern Orthodox Church

The discrepancy lies only a few paragraphs apart: that Jude/Thaddeus' dates are in June (Eastern Orthodoxy) and in October (Eastern Orthodoxy). Or is this down to the vast confusion that historically exists over his forename? If so, someone with more knowledge than I should clarify this little page burp. Iwitinthemidwest (talk) 16:02, 21 September 2025 (UTC)

Brother Or Cousin, of Jesus?

Some sources indicate that Jude was a son of Mary, who was a cousin to Virgin Mary... suggesting that Jude was Jesus' cousin.Damiano (talk) 12:43, 24 December 2025 (UTC)

That Jude who was brother of 'James' (ie. Jacob) was one of the four sons of Joseph and Mary (see Matthew 13:55 & Mark 6:3), ie. half-brothers to Jesus. But this Jude Thaddeus COULD have been a different Jude, and was more likely to have been different, since these four brothers didn't follow him before his death (Matthew 12:46). Zohre6 (talk) 07:41, 13 February 2026 (UTC)

The reference in Luke 6:16 to 'Jude of James' (as the 12th apostle since Luke doesn't list his as Thaddeus) means this 12th disciple Jude was either a son of the apostle James/Jacob, ie grandson of Zebedee, or quite likely a son of another James/Jacob who was unrelated to James and John. It is incorrect to assume he was one of the brothers of Jesus, since none of them were his followers at that time. Zohre6 (talk) 07:55, 13 February 2026 (UTC)

"Judassaint" listed at Redirects for discussion

The redirect Judassaint has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2026 April 22 § Judassaint until a consensus is reached. 𝔅𝔦𝔰-𝔖𝔢𝔯𝔧𝔢𝔱𝔞? 17:52, 22 April 2026 (UTC)