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I talked about my Bullet Journalling setup before. I did end up dropping the monthly view since then, like hinted at in that post. I still have monthly tasks, but not a list of upcoming appointments -- really, that is redundant. That goes on my phone with actual reminders. And I hate writing numbers.

I tried and abandoned bullet journalling a number of times in years past. I never really managed to make it work for me for more than 3 months at best... until now! It's going to be nearly 3 years since I started.

It's ironic that I'm finally writing up this post so close to end of year, when one of the tips for me to stop overthinking it was to Just Start (tm) a new one whenever a new notebook is needed, whatever the date. Other brain stuff has been stopping from writing this post before because "what if I forget to mention something?!" which is really silly... Eventually, I wrote down a list in my BuJo a couple of months ago, and now it's time to bring it here ;)

I ended up referring back to my Weekly View quite a bit in this post, so including the image again for easier reference.

1. Do the things that spark joy even if it makes no sense or is hard to explain

For example, apparently writing a lot of numbers stresses me out. That's one of the reasons I dropped the monthly spread (blergh to writing 28-31 numbers in a row), in addition to it not being very useful to me. I also don't number my pages.

How this works with collections and the index is that I keep those at the end of my BuJo, and when I need to refer to something in a daily log I use the date instead. I don't have a lot of collections though, so browsing to find one I know is there is fine. When I had more, I used alphabet letters to "number" them and refer to them in the index, but again I had maybe only a dozen.

I also find drawing boxes apparently very soothing. So I add them in a few places, like in the monthly tasks or in the Weekly View I showed above. That lil' box within the box makes me smile every time, whether or not I actually draw something funny in it ;)

Likewise, the "official" bullet journal book strongly recommends not to use checkboxes (too long to draw!) but dots instead, but for whatever reason I find all those dots stressful on the daily logs. So checkboxes it is for me! I don't mind if they all look a lil' funky. It's okay, I'm also a lil' funky. You can see on my weekly tasks example from 2022 that they're all very individual boxes haha.

Like, none of this makes sense and I can't really justify it. But I've just been paying attention to my feelings and decided to listen even if I'd be embarrassed to try to explain it. The journal is a tool just for me, so it's fine if I'm being weird about what sparks joy.

2. Simple yet pleasant design, fast to do

My design doesn't take a lot of time to do. I have to do a weekly migration but drawing that box doesn't take a lot of time, and if I'm feeling pressure I just draw the box and don't migrate anything. Instead I add a note to the daily log to "do weekly migration" and it might get migrated for a couple of days but eventually I'll get to it.

Likewise, I have 4-5 boxes on my monthly to-dos page, with headers like on the weekly one for various categories (life admin, hobbies, writing, ...)

I'll be honest though, I was never on Instagram so I never osmosed the "Bullet Journals must be pretty" stuff and this isn't a blocker for me. It really confuses me when people say "oh I can't have a BuJo, I'm not an artist."

Format-wise, a reporter notebook with the binding at the top does it for me, because I find it vaguely disturbing to sometimes have the binding under my hand and sometimes not. Consistency!

I don't like blank pages so I use a regular, cheap stationery notebook. And to avoid "oh I should wait for the start of a new week, month, year" I start whenever I'm at (especially important the first time when starting out!). Although I've learned to wait to do the monthly migration on the new notebook even if it's a couple of weeks earlier or later because I'll still need to refer to that. I don't have yearly spreads though, so starting whenever may be easier for me. Also, I do like to start a new week and month on the "right" side of the page so I just do that.

Like recommended in the official method, I have my little symbols. A star for stuff that really should be prioritised. A T in a circle for stuff that can be done Tomorrow but I needed to add to the list while I remember it.

3. What goes in the daily log

What goes in: I also add in the things that matter to me, even if I was gonna do them anyway and have no fear of forgetting (like writing). It feels good to check that box and to see that I spend time on the things that are important to me.

Caveat: I didn't like doing this when it was an evening task that had to stay undone until the end of the day (for example, daily journalling over a period to try to sort out some things). In that case, I added it to my weekly recurring tasks piece in the weekly views. Checking a box there at the end of the day felt way nicer ;)

Sometimes, I write a task for something I already did and tick it directly. It gives me a sense of accomplishment, and I'll feel less bad at the end of the day if I didn't do everything I meant to do. It shows I did do something.

What DOESN'T go in there: the £%&£*%&£ laundry. House chores NEVER go in the daily tasks. For me, there's nothing that's going to be make me feel like more of a garbage human being than migrating "do the laundry" or "hang the clothes" (my nemesis) day after day after day. I don't need the reminder anyway, I can SEE that in my environment already. Rare exceptions: when I need to time the laundry before a trip or something.

4. Stuff I still haven't figured out and ongoing experiments

I still don't have a good system for actually doing my monthly tasks. There's stuff I've been basically migrating for 2 years (decluttering :( and some admin things that will blow up in my face someday if I don't Just Do It at some point). Breaking them down doesn't seem to help either. I comfort myself in that at least, I'm aware of them and keeping track/thinking about them.

I have an on-going experiment with larger goals at the moment. My monthly tasks spread is one page, and then I would start a new Weekly spread so there was that blank page at the back of the month... Grumble, grumble... Since November, I'm using it for "larger goals" stuff. So, say I want to try out a new recipe a month. I have a "New recipe:" line. Say I want to walk 15km a week, or go to the gym 4 times a week (but the actual day doesn't matter). I track that stuff there. There's some weekly and monthly aspirations there, and it's nice to get an overview of how I did on things I want to learn or get better at. I'm also playing with colouring the end result red/orange/green at the end haha. It's interesting to see how something like having too many social events in a week leads to everything else kind of falling apart. Maybe I'll learn how to balance better over time. (Oh, something I've loved learning after bullet journalling for so long is getting a better understanding of my energy levels. If I have to do a thing outside the house, it will leave me with very little energy to do anything else that involves communicating with people, even online. So I might add a little circled T for "Tomorrow" to this kind of tasks, things like that. Or understanding how many phone calls I can handle in a day!).

I'm not sure what to do about old notebooks. I don't re-read them, but I'm reluctant to throw them away. They're starting to build up. Maybe I can remove the pages I care about like book reviews, and some collections, but I'm not sure yet.

And that is what I've been learning and experimenting with for the last couple of years! It's definitely making my life easier and somewhat more peaceful.

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Date: Dec. 22nd, 2024 11:12 (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] annofowlshire
Love this!

I'm with you on "it's not pretty, but it works." Sometimes I add washi or stickers, but that's about as much as it gets.

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Date: Dec. 22nd, 2024 13:44 (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sisterdivinium
I always found bullet journaling rather fascinating so it's really cool to get a glimpse at how you do it given how everyone seems to do it their own way.

I'm more of a traditional journal writer so I sit down for some time and just write a couple of paragraphs until I am interrupted by something or someone (*sigh*), although I do use a sort of "ticking" strategy for some things. Like you, I absolutely do not add chores to my daily list of things because they're mostly just personal long-term creative projects (with short-term ones on the side). However, I've dropped the checkboxes in themselves and just do a little mark beside the item I've worked on if I made any progress on it on a given day. As long as I can tick something off, anything, even a bonus project that hadn't been planned (like an improvised mini zine I did just the other day), I'm happy, haha.

"I was never on Instagram so I never osmosed the "Bullet Journals must be pretty" stuff"

I have to say this is one of the things I hate the most about the internet when it comes to journaling because it also affects the non-bullet journal people. Every now and again some poor, desperate soul on r/journaling needs to point out how journals DON'T need to be pretty, that they CAN in fact be "ugly" as long as they work for the person writing them... It just bugs me how these things that should only be helpful to us can start causing stress instead because of the influence some frilly Instagram posts can have. Sometimes I wish I could shake everyone who's been holding back from starting their journal (regardless of the style) into just doing it and the "pretty" journal people be damned! I have piles of old notebooks filled with either black or blue ink in messy cursive and that's it for me. Whatever suits an individual's needs is what's important, not the spreads with Colours! and Stickers! and Washi Tape! or whatever, aaaaaaa, it drives me maaaaad!

Ahem. Sorry for the rant, it just bothers me. Of course people who like all of these decorations should go on using them! I just wish the curious people who are new to all of it didn't feel pressured because of them and that "plain" and "ugly" journals could be considered just as normal as the decorated ones. Good on you for knowing you can and should do what's best for YOU. That is the way :)

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Date: Dec. 27th, 2024 00:58 (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sisterdivinium
It's awesome that it worked for you once you found the tweaks that made everything fall into place!

Just because I mentioned the journaling sub it seems things have settled down over there nowadays, which is nice. You're absolutely right: these sorts of journals "serve their purpose and thus are beautiful". That's the only correct mindset for these things -- if it serves its purpose as regards its owner then it can't possibly go wrong, whether it's plain or pretty :)

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Date: Dec. 22nd, 2024 15:52 (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] white_aster
For the archiving, would scanning them and then throwing away the hardcopies be an option? I've done this as a way to archive backups of my own journals. I love the hell out of the Genius Scan app for Android, which makes it incredibly easy to just hold the phone over an open book, autosnap a pic, turn page, autosnap a pic, etc. I can scan an entire journal this way in just a few minutes. It auto-corrects for tilted pages, and has useful filters to adjust contrast, etc. I'm sure there are other apps out there for iDevices, etc.

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Date: Dec. 22nd, 2024 20:19 (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] octahedrite

[community profile] journalsandplanners would appreciate this, if you're inclined to cross-post.

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Date: Dec. 22nd, 2024 20:47 (UTC)
bluegreenwhirlywindy: Anime-person watching cumulus cloud (Default)
From: [personal profile] bluegreenwhirlywindy
I still don't have a good system for actually doing my monthly tasks. There's stuff I've been basically migrating for 2 years

Hey, there was no need to call me out like this. 😜😂
(And if you stumble upon a secret code to getting those done (or just a way that works), feel free to share that forbidden knowledge with me pls XD)

Honestly, the thing I probably love most about (bullet) journals is to witness their slow transformation over time as the setup gets more and more refined as the user finds out which parts work or are important and which parts don't work or can be discarded. Congrats on finding a setup that works so well for you, even with some rough edges that still have to be filed off. :D

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Date: Dec. 29th, 2024 19:40 (UTC)
bluegreenwhirlywindy: Anime-person watching cumulus cloud (Default)
From: [personal profile] bluegreenwhirlywindy
Haha, I don't know whether to laugh or to cry at the fact that I tried the exact same thing. 😂 Even created a nice spread specifically for it... which then proceeded to stay empty. I didn't even get to the first step of writing down the tiny first steps actually. 🤣 However, your post and my subsequent reaction to it has brought the topic of how to tackle monthly (or less-than-monthly) tasks back into my mind, and after it simmering in the back of it for a bit of time now, I have actually recalled a few "brainhacks" I recently discovered about my brain and am thus now contemplating whether and how I might be able to adapt those to the monthly tasks problem - so thank you very much for the indirect input you've given me!!! \o/ :DD (Those things I'm thinking of are true bona fide "okay brain whatever you say as long as it works" instances though, so I'm not sure rambling about them would give any benefit to anybody else. ^^°)

Let's hope 2025 will be the year we figure out how to snuggle up with monthly tasks before any faces are blown up! 😤 XDD

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Date: Mar. 2nd, 2025 17:37 (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] bluegreenwhirlywindy
Oh, the brainhacks I was referring to in that comment do indeed work well, at least for me! Also, in the meantime, I have devised a different categorisation system for the monthly tasks and how to tackle them, but that should absolutely be test-driven for a few months before coming to a verdict on whether it works not not. xD Regarding the brainhacks though, if you should be interested in them I guess I can see about typing them up some time...

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Date: May. 1st, 2025 11:07 (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] bluegreenwhirlywindy

Okay, well, typing up my thoughts took longer - and also turned out longer - than I would've liked. ^^° But if you're still interested, I decided not to spam this comment section too much and thus posted my thoughts here. :)

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Date: Dec. 31st, 2024 01:00 (UTC)
trascendenza: ed and stede smiling. "st(ed)e." (Default)
From: [personal profile] trascendenza
Not a secret code (if only!!), but I discovered for my brain that I had to give that first-broken-down-achievable-step a higher reward value. It needs a higher value because other urgent or more attractive things will ALWAYS trump these kind of tasks for, various reasons:

1) I put it off in the first place because my brain already didn't want to do it (could be that it's unpleasant or seems to have the potential to cause unpleasant emotions in some way, could be that the entire of the task still seems daunting even if I break down the first smallest step, etc., lots of potential emotional aversion and general ick attached already)

2) the longer I avoid it, the older it becomes and the less potential dopamine value it has. Dopamine loves novelty, so new stuff is generally more attractive than old stuff.

3) because I've had to migrate it so many times (I'm also in the years-long-task-migrating club), I also have an extra layer of *predicting* I can't do it/will fail to do it every time I look at it, and that pattern just keeps neurologically reinforcing itself every time it happens.

So I had to start attaching more reward value to this category of tasks. For me personally, that could come in many potential forms:

- I create a big wall tracker and have a little dance party every time I add a check mark to a "challenging task" tracker. This works for me because I find tracking rewarding and the little dance party will give me a dopamine reinforcement of "checking this tracker results in good feelings," so I'll have more motivation to interact with the tracker going forward.

- I ask an accountability busy to help me with the specific task, someone I know will cheerlead me when I'm done

- I create a very rewarding environment to perform the task in: pleasant sensory stuff like music or fuzzy blankets, some people like nice smelling candles, often a comforting podcast works for me, but saving up something special to listen to could also be motivating. And/or reward myself as I do it, like little bites of a favorite snack or sips of a favorite drink as I go.

However, different people find different things rewarding or motivating! Some people really like stickers, there are also those applause buttons (https://www.amazon.com/RIBOSY-Applause-Button-Applauds-Pressed/dp/B07JQ2LSFL/), and incorporating the element of surprise can also increase dopamine release, so for example one of those candies that has a secret item inside of it or something can work really well for some people.

Also an important note, from my understanding for optimal reinforcement the reward should happen during the task, or as soon as possible after completion, or both.

Sometimes even with these strategies I also still have to do the "I give myself permission to simply move towards this task in the smallest way possible," thing. I.E. if I'm trying to fill out a lot of complicated paperwork, giving myself permission to just look at it, no pressure to actually fill it out. Then maybe the next day give myself permission to fill out one field, etc.

Aaaaanyway, hopefully something in that info dump will prove helpful! I just wanted to share, because finding the right strategy has helped me work on tasks most days of the week for the past 11 weeks. So and definitely can be possible to figure out how to hack your brain, but finding the right buttons is certainly the trick!
Edited Date: Dec. 31st, 2024 01:01 (UTC)

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Date: Jan. 1st, 2025 10:29 (UTC)
bluegreenwhirlywindy: Anime-person watching cumulus cloud (Default)
From: [personal profile] bluegreenwhirlywindy
Ohhh, thank you for taking the time to share your observations and solutions you found regarding very migratory tasks, definitely food for thought! I actually contemplated on the topic of monthly tasks even more in addition to what I already wrote about it in my last response a comment above (^^°) and during that process noticed the different "types" of monthly tasks that actually all end up in my monthly task page (despite it being supposed to just be filled with "urgent and important" tasks) - like the advent calender tasks or the testament tasks etc., they all have silly names like this now XD. And what you wrote about the different reasons for putting of a certain task really resonates with the task type I thought of as surely being the "final boss" to defeat. Really interesting to ruminate on!

And yeah, finding the right buttons in the brain to press is such a fitting image for what we're trying to do here. XD Why do we have to find ways to "trick" our brains into doing things we need/want to do, why can't we just say "let's do this task" and we do it and that's it (okay, maybe some brains work like that... certainly not mine, sadly). orz XD Congrats to you on finding the right buttons that work for you and the resulting long streak during which you already applied them successfully! :D

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Date: Feb. 2nd, 2025 01:20 (UTC)
trascendenza: ed and stede smiling. "st(ed)e." (Default)
From: [personal profile] trascendenza
That's so awesome, I'm glad it was helpful!

It's been really cool to get to the point with my tracker where I've been using it long enough now think of it as my "good job board." I find I really look forward to interacting with it because I make sure to reward myself for tracking anything, even if it's "did the absolute smallest amount of the habit possible" or if I DIDN'T do the habit, so it's 100% positive interaction.

Anyway, rambling again because I can talk about this kind of stuff alllll day lol, but I hope it acts as a successful bridge for you :)

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Date: Dec. 22nd, 2024 21:42 (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] racheloddment
I really enjoyed reading this, thanks for writing it up! The biggest reason I've been able to stick with bullet journaling over lots of other things is that it's so customizable and I can change things whenever I want. If something isn't working for my brain anymore, okay, bye, it's gone next week or next month. If I want to try something new, it's very low stakes. A premade planner just can't ever give me that. Figuring out what sparks joy for you and what actually makes you use it is SO important. And understanding that it'll take trial and error.

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Date: Dec. 25th, 2024 14:51 (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] muscle_wizard
I saw your link from the journals and planners community, and really enjoyed reading your entry! I find it really fun to see everyone's process and what they find works for them. I'm somebody who also discovered the serotonin boost from drawing boxes c: That's actually how I started tracking wellness goals I really needed help with - every day gets its own box and I get to fill it in if I do it. It's so satisfying, I also can't explain why lol.

I'm someone who needs to have a base to start on, so Hobonichi has been really good to me because I can chunk it up however I want and it's been really helpful for keeping my schedule and tasks in order.

Thanks for sharing!

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Date: Dec. 26th, 2024 05:15 (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mistressofmuses
Very nice!

I'm definitely a big fan of doing things like this in the way that works best and is most useful for you... whether that suits the "typical" way to do it or not. (As well as figuring out the little things that make a difference to you, like which tasks to list, or what markings feel the most satisfying!)

I've been doing tracking in a pseudo bullet journal for four years now, and I've found it a really helpful thing! Though I only do layouts and pages by week, but then do a short journal entry for each day.

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Date: Dec. 31st, 2024 02:15 (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mistressofmuses
The short entries do really help with a sort of emotional record (as well as just an accounting of any major things that happened.) It's helpful for me, because I can have some serious emotional blindness about things (if I'm having a downswing, sometimes it feels like it's always felt that way. It helps to look back and see that it hasn't been forever.) And I am *terrible* at remembering when things happened, and judging the passage of time in general. It's nice to be able to pin down the dates something happened.

I can understand not wanting to keep stuff that's just a lot of daily lists, especially if they've started to take up a lot of room.

I don't know if digital storage is any easier, but I've seen that suggested before. If you don't for sure want to get rid of the past notebooks, you can take pictures of the pages, and then keep the images in a file/album/etc. That way you still have them if you want to look back (like if you do want to track things over a longer period of time), but they aren't taking up physical space. Though that could also be a fairly tedious task, potentially.

Otherwise, I think your thought to look through them and just save out the specific pages that are meaningful for you is a good plan. Maybe keep those loose pages in a box or something that doesn't take up as much space, but lets you keep it all together.

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Date: Dec. 28th, 2024 03:19 (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] scytale
I kind of bujo, and it's interesting to see the similarities and the differences between our systems! Mine started out as a non-fancy bullet journal based on the book, then evolved into a daily (which could include anything related to that day, including longform text, fic quotes, cat sticky notes, flower doodles, and quotes), collections, and a sporadically kept index. :P This year I did Hobonichi, where I've just been...uh, picking a page in the vague general vicinity of the current day and writing stuff on it. Next year I'll be going back to bullet journaling in a notebook with no dates again.

I appreciate your boxes, and it's fun hearing about how that helps you.

Your approach on tasks is really interesting!! What DOESN'T go in there: the £%&£*%&£ laundry. House chores NEVER go in the daily tasks. For me, there's nothing that's going to be make me feel like more of a garbage human being than migrating "do the laundry" or "hang the clothes" (my nemesis) day after day after day.

This is really interesting! I can see how this would work!

There's some weekly and monthly aspirations there, and it's nice to get an overview of how I did on things I want to learn or get better at. I'm also playing with colouring the end result red/orange/green at the end haha. It's interesting to see how something like having too many social events in a week leads to everything else kind of falling apart.

:O If you figure out a system for tracking this, let me know!

I'm not sure what to do about old notebooks. I don't re-read them, but I'm reluctant to throw them away. They're starting to build up.

I do this too - I just save them in a box in my closet. I did read some of them from like...ten years ago, and honestly I was glad that I kept them; I did actually skim a bit. And I think one day I'll be happy to have the 2020 notebooks...

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Date: Jan. 31st, 2025 18:05 (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] scytale
It's interesting because talking to you makes me realize how much my bujo isn't a bujo, really -- it's a book I bring along and jot things in, sometimes with a date attached xD

.......I have been migrating booking an appointment for three weeks now. xDD Only in the weekly that I started doing because of your post though!