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Some people like to insist that vinyl is a lost format. They don't know that many artists still release albums on vinyl. They insist that those that prefer vinyl just like the 'vintage retro' feeling of pops and clicks, or that people who like vinyl are just snobs.

Okay, so I'm a snob. I'll freely admit it. In fact, shoving vinyl versus cds versus MP3s aside for a moment, there's a lot of music in general that I don't like. I'm one of those people that are convinced that if Kurt Cobain hadn't died so soon, today's popular music would be drastically different. (Read: better.)

Here's the thing: I listen to a lot of music. I make a lot of music. I've been recorded with quite a few different techniques. I'm not going to get into the full argument of analog versus digital because I'll bore the hell out of most of you, and I'll wind up sounding like a giant ass. I'm already going to sound enough of an ass without getting into the endless debate of analog versus digital.

I don't like over-produced, super compressed music. It's flat. It's boring.

I like analog. I like mid-fi. I like lo-fi. I like the crunch of feedback through a distorted amplifier. I like the natural sounds of picks scraping strings, sticks hitting cymbals, fingers sliding up and down fret boards.

I digress. I digress like WOAH. What the fuck. I'm not talking about recording right now. 'Scuse me for getting sidetracked.

I like vinyl. I LOVE vinyl.

You get a decent direct-drive turntable with some quality speakers, and you definitely hear the difference.

I recently got my hands on a vinyl copy of The Delgados' The Great Eastern, which is one of my top ten albums of all time. (You guys have probably heard me mention it before.) I also happen to have the album on CD and MP3. Tonight, I put my constant bitching to the test. I hooked everything up to the same speakers - my mp3 player, my CD player, and my turntable. And I listened to the whole album. Song by song, I listened the first track, once on each device. I didn't distract myself by reading or surfing the web. I just sat back, and listened.

I confirmed what I already knew: vinyl is deeper. The subtleties come out; things you can't hear on CD or MP3 are audible. So... screw all y'all. Vinyl fucking rules.


And so this isn't a completely self-indulgent post: have a couple of short MP3s that are drastically different from each other, and that most of you will probably hate. (Okay, this is actually just making it even more self-indulgent, but I DON'T CARE. IT'S SATURDAY.)

1. Times New Viking: The Early 80's - This is gonna grate a helluva lot of ears. You know how I mentioned that I like lo-fi? Well, this is about my threshold of the lowest lo-fi I like. I love these guys, and the lick on this song is just... MMM. Love it.

2. Of Montreal: For Our Elegant Caste - Off of their new album, Skeletal Lamping, which is easily the weirdest album they've ever done. It's terrific, though, and it's strange because IT'S SO FULL OF SMUT. Just to warn you, the lyrics of this one: "We can do it soft core, if you want, but you should know I take it both ways." (Also, another reason today's vinyl ain't failing: you buy the vinyl and you get a free digital download. Mmm, yeah.)

Date: 2008-12-21 02:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] julorean.livejournal.com
I feel sorta the same. Nearly all the music I listen to is classic rock, with only a few things from anytime beyond the 80s (like Green Day, Smash Mouth and such). Even on CD, I notice a difference - the Beatles songs (I'm a big fan of theirs, really the first music I ever got into) sound more full than later stuff. Maybe it's the use of analog recording equipement versus digital, and some of that comes across even when transferred to CD. I'd still love to listen to the White Album on vinyl. Hell, any Beatles album, really. I wanna try your method, trying the CD first and then going to the record.

Sure, there's some good music out there today, but like the song said, it just "ain't got the same soul." :)

Date: 2008-12-22 03:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vichan.livejournal.com
Maybe it's the use of analog recording equipement versus digital, and some of that comes across even when transferred to CD.
It is, somewhat. Digital recording can really compress some things... I mean, digital recording takes all the tunes and converts them into numbers. Bah. It does prevent natural errors (tape stretching, scratches, etc), but digital just can't seem to get the same range that analog does. A lot of people are doing 'hybrid' recording, which is kinda what my bands have been doing - we record on a 16-track 1/2 tape, and get it digitally mastered. Sometimes, if we want more than 16 tracks, we have to record additional tracks digitally. It turns out all right. (Err. Sorry. TANGENT!)

I managed to snag a copy of 'Magical Mystery Tour'on vinyl from my parents (it took some nagging, but they had three friggin' copies of it). I've also got a copy of the White Album, and it is AWESOME.

Date: 2008-12-21 02:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] postal152.livejournal.com
Hmm, I've actually never heard anything on vinyl before, but I've gotten this talk from my musician friend, and I'm kind of intrigued. We were supposed to have a record-listening party, I guess that's really going to have to happen now.

I love low-fi, personally. I have two Mountain Goats albums, one he recorded with a boom box, and one he recorded in a studio. They're both awesome as hell, but the boom box one just sounds so homey and perfect - the little wavers and fuzzes... Haha, anyways. I loved both of your tracks, I've been meaning to listen to Of Montreal for ages now. Any other recommendations for a folk-rock fan?

Date: 2008-12-22 03:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vichan.livejournal.com
Record-listening parties are AWESOME. :-D

I actually have not heard Mountain Goats - I'll have to check him out. And YES - wavers and fuzzes are exactly what I'm talking about. :-D

As for recommendations for folk-rock... hmm. Screaming Trees, perhaps? They had one song played in the SPN episode 'Heart,' actually (during the nekkid Sam/Madison scene). Brian Jonestown Massacre? LOVE BJM. Guided by Voices? Personally not a favorite of mine, but I'm definitely the odd one out among my musically-inclined friends when it comes to GBV. You could also check out Lou Barlow or Folk Implosion. :)
I could also be even more of a self-indulgent ass and give you this link, which has some of my band's songs and a Screaming Trees song. :-D

Date: 2008-12-21 03:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lilithhecate.livejournal.com
I absolutely love LPs. I'm only 19, so it's hardly a generational thing for me. I came to love vinyl, because my parents are obsessed with it. They have over 5000 albums and like 10 turntables. And every night they play random albums. Much of my love fort classic rock comes from this and some of my favourite bands have never been released on cassette or CD.

So anyway, I absolutely agree with you. And similarily, I vastly prefer CDs to Mp3 players.

Date: 2008-12-22 03:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vichan.livejournal.com
I don't think it's really a generational thing for me, either: I'm 25. And WOW I'm jealous of your parents' collection. I like to root through thrift stores - you can find some real gems in there for $.50 for something that would be $10 at a record store.

And WORD. There were especially a lot of underground artists from the 70s that are forgotten by most. I love finding these crazy acid rock bands that are absolutely amazing, and you can't find them anywhere else except on vinyl.

I prefer the sound of CDs to MP3 players, but I have a habit of scratching my CDs. While driving/riding the bus, I take my mp3 player. At home, it's all vinyl and CD.

saw this on a morning show and had to share

Date: 2008-12-22 04:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katbcoll.livejournal.com
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4681660n

Yes, it's a video. You'll have to wait for the dvd guy to shut up. The music guy (from Blender magazine) states right off that Vinyl is the only area where there was a big growth this year. *G* Even Metallica put their new album out in LP format.

Re: saw this on a morning show and had to share

Date: 2008-12-22 05:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vichan.livejournal.com
MWAHAHAHA! I knew I wasn't imagining things. Thanks for pointing this out to me. :-D

I need to get that Miles Davis set...

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