surrenders: (venus in furs)
lua klein ([personal profile] surrenders) wrote2011-09-06 05:06 pm
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005 // public, video // i looked in the mirror and saw myself

...hi. Been thinking about what that guy just said...

If something happens when people go nuts around here, like [like she's trying the word out] a flood, does it get held against you? I've been hearing people talking about their "twins" and like they turn into someone else, but I've never gotten hit like that, so I don't know.

Do you think you're still you, when you're that other you?

[ooc: Ros I was writing this as you posted yours ahaha]

[identity profile] 19centconstable.livejournal.com 2011-09-06 09:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think it ought to be held against a person, but it's perfectly natural to feel some amount of guilt on those occassions when you retain that other person's memories. They're certainly not you, though.

[identity profile] dovehearted.livejournal.com 2011-09-06 10:45 pm (UTC)(link)
It's the same body, right? [The "how is it not you" is implied.]

[identity profile] 19centconstable.livejournal.com 2011-09-06 10:48 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't believe so. Not in those instances where the person you "become" remembers an entire lifetime different from your own.

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[identity profile] ourlastbesthope.livejournal.com 2011-09-06 10:00 pm (UTC)(link)
From my experience, "twins" aren't anything like that. If you're referring to the physical similarities between people, I mean. It's just a weird coincidence of genetics. [Keep telling yourself that, Capa...]

As for floods, it's difficult to say if you're still you. I guess you'd have to define who you are first.

[identity profile] dovehearted.livejournal.com 2011-09-06 10:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Somebody who was telling me about it called that other person she was her twin. I'd thought it was still her, you know?

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vampish_aleera: (Interest)

[personal profile] vampish_aleera 2011-09-06 10:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Sometimes... Mostly, not - others have experienced the same.

NO >:|

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too late :3

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It was yummy. c:

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[identity profile] expectremorse.livejournal.com 2011-09-06 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)

It's like growing an extra head. [Hoffman is having a bad mood. All of his introspection was interrupted so now he's just in his vindictive predator mode.

Have fun.]

[accidental]

[identity profile] dovehearted.livejournal.com 2011-09-06 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
[The camera flickers on for a second, but when she realizes who she's responding to, her eyes widen, she shakes her head, and clicks it off.]

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truth_is_cold: (rhade - dry look)

[personal profile] truth_is_cold 2011-09-06 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
[He's going to snap because of all this talk. He can't snap. It wasn't him, right? Therefore, it doesn't count. So he can hold himself together.]

I don't hold it against them.

They couldn't help what they were made into. They had no control over themselves.

[But he does very much hold it against this ship.]

[identity profile] dovehearted.livejournal.com 2011-09-07 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
[She can tell you're not okay with the idea, while everyone else seems so relaxed.] Yeah. Not knowing what anyone's gonna be like tomorrow...

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[identity profile] notafuckingnut.livejournal.com 2011-09-07 01:20 am (UTC)(link)
Wouldn't know, it's never happened to me personally. But I'd say they're still them either way.

[ffff he should probably not be showing his face anywhere right now but he doesn't know why. so. HAVE A RICHIE.]

[identity profile] dovehearted.livejournal.com 2011-09-07 01:28 am (UTC)(link)
[well this entire post is his fault even though she's not saying that. how dumb are you, Richie, she heard you hitting on that girl. but she's not going to call you out on it, you like to kill people for fun and she kind of likes you.]

Why? [It's not a challenge. She wants to draw him out.]

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lostundercover: (i suppose so)

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[personal profile] lostundercover 2011-09-07 03:20 am (UTC)(link)
That generally depends on what you do, to who, and how much of you is in it.

[identity profile] dovehearted.livejournal.com 2011-09-07 03:26 am (UTC)(link)
You've been through a lot here. [surprisingly for her, there's not any questions implied.]

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[identity profile] flashy-magic.livejournal.com 2011-09-07 03:27 am (UTC)(link)
Nah, it doesn't get held against you. I mean, you're still you, yeah? But you're not you as you are, so it doesn't count.

[identity profile] dovehearted.livejournal.com 2011-09-07 03:31 am (UTC)(link)
Sounds like enough can change you don't even know who you are.

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[identity profile] future-games.livejournal.com 2011-09-07 05:10 am (UTC)(link)
No. I don't think you have conscious control of your actions during any flood. It shouldn't be held against you.

[identity profile] dovehearted.livejournal.com 2011-09-07 08:02 pm (UTC)(link)
[Oh there you are; she thought you were a Barge ghost or something. Her eyes smile back like "hi it's been a while".] It's like someone else taking control, right?

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darknessb4me: (/lurk)

[personal profile] darknessb4me 2011-09-07 08:03 am (UTC)(link)
It's not you.

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toldastory: (window)

[personal profile] toldastory 2011-09-07 02:30 pm (UTC)(link)
It wasn't you.

[identity profile] dovehearted.livejournal.com 2011-09-07 08:19 pm (UTC)(link)
...I didn't do anything yet.

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voice;

[identity profile] puzzleprince.livejournal.com 2011-09-09 06:27 am (UTC)(link)
'You' is a complex whole of beliefs, morals, memories, customs, habits, and capabilities, to name a few. If those things are involuntarily altered you end up with a completely different being. There's a reason we don't instantaneously fix people-- it wouldn't be them, now would it? People can only remain themselves through conscious change.

If you had something as small as, say, your artistic talent taken away from you, you probably wouldn't feel much like yourself either.

It's an interesting question.

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[identity profile] dovehearted.livejournal.com 2011-09-09 04:06 pm (UTC)(link)
[If she knew who you were she wouldn't engage because Costigan warned her about what a bastard you are, but she doesn't.]

Hm. Thought it was something I should think about, since it's going to happen sometime.

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