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Following this poll, [personal profile] jo_lasalle and I are thinking that we're going to give organising a MDSZ readalong once the English (and German) editions are out a shot. We have a few follow-up questions at this point for those who are interested.

EDITED  TO SAY: some kind souls reminded us gently that not all the volumes come out at the same time, so we're going to have a look at calendars and publishing dates and figure out a reading schedule. Thank you kindly. :)


A few notes on what we're thinking:
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  • We're planning to put the posts up at the comm. (Should issues arise, we can also host them at our own DWs, but we don't expect any ATM.)
  • The English translation is going to come out mid-December; because of our own schedules in the run-up to the winter break, if we're the only ones organising it, we couldn't start before early January. Sorry about that!
  • We think weekly posts is a good rhythm, but we also couldn't reliably do two posts a week, so the schedule interval isn't part of the poll.
  • The posts themselves will be pretty low-frill.
  • The comm disallows anon commenting, but Open ID commenting seems possible, so people who don't have a DW account can also comment with a Twitter or LJ account. (Our experience is that people who don't do DW, don't do DW, but, in theory the option exists!)
  • Jo will also be reading the German translation in parallel, and will likely make a dedicated thread per post for anything people might want to discuss that's specific to the German edition.
  • Commentary and comparison with other translations very welcome! We just wouldn't take point on that because the English and German translations is all the parallel reading we personally can manage.
  • - Commentary on the original Chinese also very welcome! We don't speak or read Chinese so we definitely can't take point on that, but any dedicated thread or un-dedicated observations will be received with delight.
  •  
The open questions and subject to the poll:

1) How many chapters per week?

Hitting not too fast but also not to slow for the majority of people will be trickiest, hence the poll.

If you have a look at the Novel Chapter Summaries, you'll see that there are 113 chapters, and they are grouped into themes. A theme is usually between 4 and 8 chapters, sometimes more, even more rarely less.
  • We could go for a theme a week, which would be pretty easy in terms of organisation and keeping track, but would also mean some pretty uneven lengths. (Just checking the early themes has a variety of 10k to 26k.) Would mean somewhere between 20 and 25 weeks of discussion posts, which is quite long.
  • We could generally go for themes, and combine the really short one, and maybe split the really long ones. Again, would mean somewhere between 20 and 25 weeks of discussion posts, which is quite long.
  • We could combine themes where they're short and keep the long themes intact, so higher word count per week, shoot for ~12-15 weeks of posts.
  • We could go for a general rough word count regardless of themes. (We admit it's been long enough that we read the Exiled Rebels translation that we don't remember if the themes are really reflected in the narrative structure and how chapters hang together)


2) Spoilers or no spoilers.

Would we assume / ask people to pretend that anyone reading along has only read the chapters so far, or assume that by this point nobody is reading this translation entirely unspoiled, i.e. discussion can include mentions of "future" events?

Would we want to avoid spoilers for other adaptations?

(If the general discussion isn't supposed to have spoilers, there could still be a thread that's specifically spoiler-inclusive and labelled thus, but, it does mean more work, and potentially more bitty discussion.)

3) Day of the week that's good for discussion

Poll #26392 MDZS Readalong Poll 2
Open to: Registered Users, detailed results viewable to: All, participants: 12


Reading speed

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A theme a week, roll the dice on word count
1 (8.3%)

Themes standalone, combined or split for a rough word count of 10-15k
5 (41.7%)

Themes standalone or combined for a rough word count of 20-30k
6 (50.0%)

Ignore themes, word count 10-15k per week
2 (16.7%)

Ignore themes, word count 15-20k per week
1 (8.3%)

Other, will explain in comments
2 (16.7%)

Day of the week

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Saturday
7 (58.3%)

Sunday
8 (66.7%)

Tuesday
5 (41.7%)

Given that the editions appear early- to mid- December and we won't start for a good 2/3 weeks after that, do we want to start with a bigger chunk in the first week?

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Yes
3 (25.0%)

No
6 (50.0%)

Don't care
3 (25.0%)

Spoilers for the novel permitted in general discussion

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Yes
11 (91.7%)

No
0 (0.0%)

Don't care
1 (8.3%)

Spoilers for other adaptations permitted in general discussion

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Yes
12 (100.0%)

No
0 (0.0%)

Don't care
0 (0.0%)



Input welcome! Anything important we've missed?

Date: 2021-11-29 20:18 (UTC)
barbiejedi: white text on a navy blue background, reads "It is a story of love and loss, brotherhood and betrayal, courage and sacrifice and the death of dreams" (star wars: ow my childhood)
From: [personal profile] barbiejedi
In the English translation at least, it's being published in five volumes that are coming out every three-ish months, starting in a couple of weeks and finishing in January 2023.

I haven't seen listed anywhere an approximate wordcount/chapter/theme list for each volume, but that may need to be taken in account-- the speed of the read-along could be adjusted such that we finish each volume just in time to start the next one as it's released, or so that there's, for example, 1 month of read-along and 2 months of off-time waiting for the next volume to come out.

Date: 2021-11-29 20:28 (UTC)
jo_lasalle: (CQL - WWX oops)
From: [personal profile] jo_lasalle
OMG we totally missed that! 😳🙈 OK, that would definitely have to be taken into account! Thanks for pointing it out.

Date: 2021-11-29 20:34 (UTC)
barbiejedi: white text on a green background, reads "getting an education was a bit like a communicable sexual disease. it made you unsuitable for a lot of jobs, and then you had the urge to pass it on" (discworld: education)
From: [personal profile] barbiejedi
haha, I've been thinking about it a lot lately because I want the digital editions of the other MXTX novels and I was debating with myself whether to read those as they're published or wait until they're done so I don't have to worry about cliffhangers.

I was also thinking, not starting the read-along until January is probably good for the people who are getting MDZS for the holidays. Maybe each volume could be started ~2+ weeks after publication date to give people time to get ahold of their copies.

Date: 2021-11-29 20:56 (UTC)
jo_lasalle: Wei Wuxian dragging Lan Zhan (CQL - WWX dragging LZ)
From: [personal profile] jo_lasalle
TECHNICALLY I was also aware of the different volumes because I was still fighting with myself over "will I really pay for multiple volumes both as the book and the eBook"! It just didn't carry over into this discussion with Solo.

We'll need to look at a calendar to not confuse ourselves AGAIN, but you raise great points! Thank you!

Date: 2021-11-29 23:09 (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] trobadora
[personal profile] barbiejedi above already mentioned the volumes - aligning it with the publishing schedule so that we finish one volume in time to start the next makes the most sense to me.

Other than that, personally I'm more likely to be able to keep up the smaller the weekly wordcount is. *g*

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