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A reboot of the team post-Infinite Crisis, Justice Society of America has Geoff Johns still on as writer, but a new line-up after One Year Later. The first story arc left me a little cold. It's mostly a jumping-on point kinda storyline, getting the band back together and introducing the new kids that we'll be following on this incarnation of the team. The actual plot is... there are Nazis and they're killing people and the superheroes have to stop them. It's kinda thin. Might just be me, but when the villain with the most characterization is Captain Nazi and that's just because he's shown up in other comics that give him character development... Otherwise, they're just here to back Vandal Savage's play and commit awful atrocities against women and children, which of course they greatly enjoy because they're such bad people.

It makes for a bit of a tonal clash when you're introducing a bunch of fun new characters who are 'joining the family.'







Maxine Hunkel is probably the biggest new addition, as she's become enough of a mainstay to show up in the Black Adam movie--where, weirdly, she's the stoic, hypercompetent one and Atom Smasher, of all people, is the motormouthed rookie. But let's not get into movie adaptations or we'll be here all day.









Maxine is the archetypal 'superhero fan who gets to become a superhero' character, which by now is so commonplace that there are multiple characters like that in the MCU, and that's all we'll say about that (Iron Man Jr.) The big twist is that she chiefly fangirls Stargirl, who is a contemporary of hers (but she's been published longer, so she's much more established). Thus, they're more friends than mentor and student, as with most legacy characters.





On the other side of the spectrum, grumpy ol' Wildcat finds that he has a son from a one-night-stand who is able to go full furry, but is rather cynical about having a legacy and becoming a superhero. Since the furryness is usually reserved for hot chicks, it's a little novel to have a guy do it.

Anyway, that's about it. Vandal Savage is evil, he's trying to take out the JSA because they're good, the Nazis are helping him because they're evil. Hopefully, now that the table setting is out of the way, Johns can lay out something more substantial--because now it's off to JLA for an immediate crossover!

Date: 2024-08-10 10:10 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shakalooloo
The JSA do seem to get bogged down a lot with fighting Nazis. I know, that's what they did back in the day, but maybe giving them a rest from that sort of thing for a year or two would be neat.

Date: 2024-08-10 12:17 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mister_terrific
Ohhhhh man. This is where I started getting tired of Johns' writing. He has this horrible tendency to shove tons of new characters into the JSA instead of just using the ones that are already there...and then does absolutely nothing with them. Sigh.
Edited Date: 2024-08-10 12:18 pm (UTC)

Date: 2024-08-10 08:41 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] dan_ingram
Yeah. Johns is great at creating characters, but this is when he starts creating them and then doing nothing with them, sigh...

Date: 2024-08-10 09:02 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] beyondthefringe
Wait until we get to absolute non-starters like the third Amazing Man.

(Though I still save my real grumpiness for the introduction of Red Beetle, Ri, and Darknight, in issue #49, who got absolutely no time, development, or explanation before Flashpoint ruined everything. I know Johns was off the title by this point but I hate characters who get introduced and never followed up on.)

Date: 2024-08-10 12:34 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] steverodgers5
This makes me really miss the Stargirl tv show all over again. Just a pity they weren't able to use Cyclone in that. (Due to the Black Adam movie I presume..)

Date: 2024-08-10 03:19 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] scorntx
"Someone murdered Wesley Dodds. Or he committed suicide to prevent himself being murdered. Potayto, potahto."
"Those seem like very distinct things."
"Shut up."

Villains killing lots of people because they are villains and they like killing people is... well, it's one of Geoff Johns' things. Like arms being ripped off.
Mordu, Per Degaton, Black Manta, Eclipso, Reverse-Flash, Joker any time he gets his mitts on him, Atomica and Johnny Quick...
(And then we have Superboy-Prime, who'd have to work his way up to anything resembling so complex a motivation.)
Not saying he can't write villains differently, but that's still quite a few names there...

Date: 2024-08-10 03:27 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] mazway_75
This is where the book sadly started to lose me cramming so many new characters in (like Black Lightning's never before mentioned second daughter) and other stuff. Shame as still good bits on the JSA as a legacy.

Also plot being Vandal is trying to wipe out the relatives of Golden Age heroes so they can't start a new generation. Which the JSA says is hopeless as "it's not blood that inspires heroes, it's more than that."

Date: 2024-08-10 08:58 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] beyondthefringe
I always liked Maxine as a character.
There's an amusing urban legend, possibly inspired by one of Alex Ross' covers featuring her, that she goes commando under the skirt.

I feel like we never got a really solid feel for "Tomcat" beyond grumpy and not really interested in following his dad's legacy.

Not shown here: the introduction of a sadly short-lived Mister America (because as we learn, the Nazis are killing patriotic heroes and their entire family lines), and the reintroduction of an angry Damage who hides his now-disfigured face behind an Atom-inspired mask, after he barely survived the murdering of the Freedom Fighters in Infinite Crisis. He's now in full rage/sulk mode.

The "battle couple" of Hourman (Rick Tyler) and Liberty Belle (formerly Jesse Quick) is adorable though.

Another interesting note is the continued slow effort to introduce elements of Kingdom Come into mainstream DC with the time-displaced Thom Kallor version of Starman, and the unfortunately racist Confederate-themed villain Rebel both showing up.

The JSA is in FULL "legacy recruitment" mode as of this reboot, and we're gonna get deep with some of those connections...

Date: 2024-08-10 09:32 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] scorntx
Damage's sulk mode... ooft.
There's an interview Geoff Johns did for Blackest Night where he was talking (with just a little bit of back-patting) about how this had made Damage a "complex" character...
Nnnnot really.

Date: 2024-08-11 06:17 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] blueprintstyles
I was really hoping for Stargirl to get a third season so Wildcat's son can join the team, maybe Gunn will decide he likes it and orders a revival.

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