loghain mac tir (
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rivain2017-08-01 11:32 am
the past is always with us. it's in our bones and our blood
WHO: Loghain Mac Tir, Eldiana Surana
WHERE: Denerim palace
WHEN: just after Loghain's Joining
WARNINGS: talk of death and demons and darkspawn
NOTES: TBA
Loghain doesn't honestly think that Surana really cares that much about making him "atone" for everything or about his death and yet he has a feeling that even she will be surprised that he survived. Maybe all of this death and war crap has made him a bit cynical. Or maybe he's tired of being ignored and pushed, tired of no one listening, tired of everything threatening Ferelden and her people. Tired of people threatening Anora.
But Anora is safe and somehow Loghain survived the Joining. He's been resting it off, somewhat, which mostly means dealing with these visions in the back of his head, the dreams of the archdemon or so they say. He doesn't know what to think, though he supposes he doesn't have much of a choice but to believe them. Nothing else makes sense anyway.
Eventually, he emerges from his room, unsure if he wants to be seen or not but knowing that he should at least let them know that he hasn't died in the last few hours. For however much some might cheer if he did. No, fate or the Maker or something has a terrible sense of humor by keeping him alive. For it is in life that he can right so many wrongs, even if he can't change those deaths.
Fortunately for him, his feet are still sure and he makes his way around the palace at a time when most are asleep. Most, but not all. The Wardens are still awake, though he isn't sure he really wants to talk to any of them right at the moment. He is aware that he might not have a choice, so he prepares himself to run into any of their number while he gets his bearings with this new taint in his body and mind.
WHERE: Denerim palace
WHEN: just after Loghain's Joining
WARNINGS: talk of death and demons and darkspawn
NOTES: TBA
Loghain doesn't honestly think that Surana really cares that much about making him "atone" for everything or about his death and yet he has a feeling that even she will be surprised that he survived. Maybe all of this death and war crap has made him a bit cynical. Or maybe he's tired of being ignored and pushed, tired of no one listening, tired of everything threatening Ferelden and her people. Tired of people threatening Anora.
But Anora is safe and somehow Loghain survived the Joining. He's been resting it off, somewhat, which mostly means dealing with these visions in the back of his head, the dreams of the archdemon or so they say. He doesn't know what to think, though he supposes he doesn't have much of a choice but to believe them. Nothing else makes sense anyway.
Eventually, he emerges from his room, unsure if he wants to be seen or not but knowing that he should at least let them know that he hasn't died in the last few hours. For however much some might cheer if he did. No, fate or the Maker or something has a terrible sense of humor by keeping him alive. For it is in life that he can right so many wrongs, even if he can't change those deaths.
Fortunately for him, his feet are still sure and he makes his way around the palace at a time when most are asleep. Most, but not all. The Wardens are still awake, though he isn't sure he really wants to talk to any of them right at the moment. He is aware that he might not have a choice, so he prepares himself to run into any of their number while he gets his bearings with this new taint in his body and mind.

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Useful. Not redeemable, not punishable. Useful. The cool relief that folded her veins when Riordan at that, more than perhaps anything else, had told her that if she survived the Blight, she could make this work. Being a Warden.
There had been another relief, too, at finding an out for executing Loghain just because Alistair was pissy. She'd spent so much time in the past year killing, but that had struck her as closer to murder. Unnecessary murder at that. But if Alistair had ordered her, forced the issue, what would she have done?
Obeyed. It would have been practical. And yet...
Well.
Eldy's had a lot to think about.
She's brushing Noble Beast in the parlour of the suite they've been offered when he wuffs softly to let her know that someone is approaching. It's a wuff that turns into a barely audible growl, and Eldy lifts her head to see Loghain. He looks like shit, more than he had at the Landsmeet. She's not surprised: the Joining is a shock.
She stays seated on the floor. It's comfortable enough, and she wants to finish her task. There's a pointed message to it, too: she won't stand to greet him now. She'll stay seated, stay at her task, she'll have messy braids that need to be redone and be dressed just in the leathers that go under the blue and metal scales of her uniform. He isn't above her - an elf, a mage - not any more.
But neither will she ignore him. She just raises her eyebrows, a little, and asks, "How are you feeling?"
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He does take note of the fact that she pointedly does not get up for him. He supposes he deserves that, the cynical part of him thinks, though he keeps it off his face somehow. Well, at least until she asks her question. Then he simply stares at her, his expression unimpressed, and without any reason to be polite, he offers the first thing that comes to mind.
"The Maker's pissed all over Ferelden since the Orlesians occupied our land and you're asking me how I feel?" he sneers bitingly. "I had a nightmare once. And I've survived this Joining of yours. I suppose that makes me one of you now and I don't have much choice in what happens next."
Great and celebrated general he might be, but knowledgeable Grey Warden he is not, as evidenced by the last year. For better or worse, he's following Riordan. And likely Eldiana, to some degree. Maybe once he's gotten over the aches and pains, and the knowledge that he'd failed Ferelden and almost failed Anora passes into the recesses of his mind, he'll be better able to serve.
And be less likely to snap at everything. Right now, she'll have to deal with him being a bit testy.
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But the circumstances...
You're asking me, he says, and for a moment Eldy's dark eyes blaze with sudden fury. She swallows it. She pulls it back into herself, back into her spine to keep it straight, into the muscles in her face to keep her expression cool, neutral. The only show of it now is in the way her knuckles are still white where she's clenched Beast's collar.
"Don't you dare bring up your record now," she says, cold as the bitter southerly wind. "You have betrayed everything you did back then. You betrayed us. Not the Maker. You.
I'm not asking how the Hero of River Dane feels. I'm asking how Loghain Mar Tir, new warden, feels, because having a sudden connection to the darkspawn and the archdemon is just a little disconcerting, and I need you to be functional."
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So instead of cowing or bowing to her words and her tone, he simply watches her shrewdly, with the smallest hint of approval in his eyes. Things may never stand well between them, but they will stand at least.
"I am functional, have no fear of that," he replies, his tone even. "I'll do what's necessary. I may be the newest one of your order, but I know what my 'duty' is now. I won't betray it, especially not when it's needed most."
It's a quiet dig at the little Theirin boy, the one who threw a fit at Surana's choice to bring Loghain into the order. The Hero of River Dane may be angry with a lot of things, but he is not a deserter. He will not shirk his duty.
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So Eldy just nods, short and sharp, at the words, I am functional, have no fear of that. Then, without quite helping it, her mouth pulls into a faint, rueful little smirk at the dig at Alistair. It's only faint, and her Circle poise re-establishes itself, but for that moment, she and Loghain were united.
It's her only moment, though, with him. Alistair is now her king, and she will stand by him and Anora both.
"Good," is what she says. "We'll get no aid from anyone outside Ferelden and Orzammar. The Orlesian wardens and their auxiliaries are at the border to stem the Blight's tide if we fail, but the political situation has made their aid impossible." There's no dig in her words: Loghain knows what he's done, and the facts and consequences will serve well enough. "Depending on how it goes, their majesties might be able to send word to them, but.... we can't rely on that. I haven't the faintest idea how to contact any of the wardens in the Free Marches, either, so..."
They are on their own. She has raised an army, but she's aware that it is in fact a number of armies and she has no idea how they'll mesh together. Nor how they will fit with the forces previously on Loghain's side of Thedas's Worst Timed Civil War. And only three wardens.
"I do... want to warn you, though, Loghain. I've seen the archdemon, in the Deep Roads. And its presence, even at the distance we saw it, is... overwhelming. The blood we've taken on, it's a weakness too. So, be on your guard for that."
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"I will survive," he says pointedly. Whatever the archdemon and the horde may bring, he will see it through. The blood might be a weakness, but so is everything else about his life. So is everything about Thedas.
Folding his arms over his chest, he regards her evenly. "So, what is your plan, Surana? I doubt you've gotten this far without considering one. Are we to move as soon as I can walk clearly?"
His tone is more or less his normal one, though it might hold just a hint of sourness, mocking her ever so slightly. He will follow her orders, of course, unless he finds them to be lacking. But at least if they talk things out, they can, with luck, work through the worst of their issues.
There is also something interesting in him asking her what they are going to do. Not Riordan, this new senior warden who jumped in out of the blue. He might have seniority, but he is hardly the one who has been running around recruiting an army to fight the horde. No, Loghain has not yet gotten the measure of him, so as far as the general is concerned, Surana is the leader and he will follow her according to his duty.
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It isn't his survival she's worried about, but more, his ability to function.
Eldy shelves it. The man has his pride, after all.
"My plan is to ask your advice. Militarily speaking. I've studied history, at Kinloch Hold, but only enough to sound intelligent not actually... be useful. Honestly, so far my tactics have been to charge in and set my enemies on fire. Which has worked but..."
She looks at Noble Beast's coat, and brushes one stop over his shoulder-blade multiple times quickly.
"I heard what you said to Cailan, that he shouldn't charge in like a fool. And you were right. So when we're drawing up battleplans, I need your help in winning. And I'll need your help in overiding the different leaders that'll be making a mess of it."
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Though what comes next is more surprising than he'd like to let on. He'd expected it to be all about redemption and showing him what he's done wrong and all that. Having her mention asking for his military advice was not in the deck of cards he's mentally built.
She's right to assume that there will be multiple people involved trying to make a mess of things. He knows exactly which ones likely will, too. On the plus side, she's already got the bannorn on her side and there's little reason for him to say no or betray her. Anora is safe and that was his first care. Ferelden's safety is next, something he has also been fighting for. If he and Surana can team up to make this happen, they will be a formidable team indeed.
Even if they never do fully trust each other.
"I've seen more battles than the number of years Cailan was alive," Loghain huffs out bitterly. A part of him does regret that Rowan's son lies dead, but the man was a fool and should never have been at the head of the fight like that. No offense to Rowan, but her son took after his father more than his mother; he was an idiot.
Surana isn't. Loghain sees potential in her, despite their opposition.
"I'll do you one better," he finally agrees. "I'll teach you strategy. That way, you won't always be relying on someone else to do your thinking for you."
And if he can actually grow to trust her strategy and ability to think on her feet? All the better.
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Loghain gets a smile. It's a small, almost wry thing, but still. It is a smile.
"Now that would be handy, as it was going to be the second part of what I was going to ask you." Which is true, but it's... well, 'nice' is the wrong word. But it is appreciated that he offers.
"The current plan is that we'll leave within two days. Tomorrow morning, we can discuss strategy and all that. But, early. I have some unfinished business in the alienage that I want to see finished, and we'll be heading in once most people have gone to work." There's a pause, and those dark eyes of her flick back to his face. "You'll be accompanying us. I need a warrior who can be discreet, and put you in Warden armour and you'll just be another human with a sword."
That isn't the only reason, although it is the main one. Sten can shut up, but he stands out. Oghren is loud, obnoxious, and although his heart is in the right, he's just... Loud. Shale is a golem.
She'd been planing on using Alistair, but there goes that.
The other reason is that the petty, angry side of her wants to drag him into the alleys, through the wretched buildings of the people he sold. She wants him to use his sword to fix whatever has gone wrong in the orphanage because he is human, and he'd been in charge up to a few hours ago and it wouldn't be politically expedient to drag down the Queen and lecture her on how misery increases demonic possession. Her father will have to do instead.
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At this point, he's found himself stuck in a situation he neither wanted nor asked for, and if he doesn't at least go along with it until the train can be stopped, he might find himself with a sword through his body regardless of the ritual he's just survived. He wouldn't be surprised if Surana had made him a warden just to throw him at the archdemon. It would save her life if she did and maybe force him to make up for some of what he's done to Ferelden. And if that's her idea, then he definitely wants to teach her strategy. He won't be able to guide her later on if he's dead.
The rest of it, though, he can guess at. Time to rub his nose in the fruits of his decisions. Let him see what he's done to everyone, and if it weren't enough that the entire Landsmeet turned against him, there's this. A stubborn mage and whatever else she wants to drag him down to experience.
"Very well. If that's your plan."
He's not exactly in the position to protest, much as he might like.