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Which makes me miss Minoanmiss liek woah.

*takes a moment*

Okay, I indeed have 8,000 words of my take on what might happen next in "Route 96 Kanata." Even if I end up not circulating this story widely, I am having so much fun.

So my question:

Does Boston have a central Christmas place like NYC does in Rockefeller Center?

Does Boston have outdoor Christmas markets?

And more broadly... what are fun Christmas-oriented traditional things to do in Boston in December?

And only partly related -- what is a likely area for Ilya's house as we see it in Episode 4?

Asking for a friend.

(What I know about Boston I learned from reading Robert Parker crime novels, which will only take a person so far.)(I have never been there; it's on my bucket list of USA Cities To See.)

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Date: 2026-07-06 01:11 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ivyfic
Yes! Boston has a Christmas Tree! The tree is donated every year by Halifax in thanks for Boston’s aid after the Halifax explosion and as a symbol of the friendship between the two cities. I grew up in the suburbs and never went to the tree lighting in the city, but google tells me it’s on Boston Common. (My town did a “blue tree” lighting every year instead of a Christmas tree, so I was immediately like, ah yes! The blue tree! Wait that’s just Needham.)

I don’t know about Christmas market but if you want kitschy street market, year round that’s Quincy Market. If you want clam chowder or a stuffed toy lobster, that’s your place. Though Faneuil Hall and Quincy Market are definitely tourist places that I poo-poo’ed as a local.

The thing about Boston is—it’s small. It’s a town that thinks it’s a city. Everything is walking distance. The T stops are in places within sight of each other. But it’s a small town with a big city ego, and big city culture (in terms of sports teams, museums, symphony, theater, etc.) It’s also a city with so many colleges and universities that every other person living there is a student (or that’s what it feels like). Lifelong Bostonians live in the burbs and commute in. And you can live in my hometown and have a half hour bike commute to downtown. So the central places of Boston are all right next to each other—Boston Public Garden, the Boston Common, Copley Plaza, Quincy Market, these are all right next to each other.

For Christmas things, I can think of two biggies: the Boston Ballet’s Nutcracker (omg SUCH a big deal for all us ballet girls) and Christmas at the Pops with the Boston Pops. I’ve been to that in a snowstorm (I went to northeastern for grad school and lived two blocks from symphony hall so went as often as possible) and it is the most fun. Do you want an orchestra in Santa hats and reindeer antlers playing Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer, that’s your place.

When I was a student, I sang with the choir at Trinity Church on Copley, and they did a Lessons and Carols service that would pack the church. There were people waiting for hours in a snowstorm to make sure they got in—they were there when I arrived for rehearsal. So that’s also a thing.

(Also, if you want to throw in a Boston deep cut, the Church of Christian Scientist Mother Church is there and it has two very cool features—the largest pipe organ in the world, and the Mapparium. The Mapparium is awesome.)

Was just gut checking with my wife who grew up in Manchester and said “I’m the wrong person to ask—I hate Boston” (spoken like a true New Hampshire-ite) “and also Christmas in Boston has Boston weather.” And now she’s cringing at me writing New Hampshire-ite.

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Date: 2026-07-06 01:12 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ivyfic
My wife has chimed in with another Boston deep cut—the ether dome, in Mass General. The location of the first surgery with anesthesia. At least pre COVID, you could just walk in there as a member of the public. It’s very cool.

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Date: 2026-07-06 01:34 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ivyfic
Okay, you've now activated my Boston love, so I just have to make sure you've heard of a few other Boston things. Boston's small enough that events take over the city in a way they don't in NYC (where I now live). Like, it's hard to express just how unignorable some of this is:
- Fenway being in the middle of the city means game day takes over EVERYTHING
- Are you aware of Patriot's Day? It's a Massachusetts state holiday to commemorate the start of the Revolution.
- Boston Marathon is a big deal, especially since the bombing in 2013.
- The Head of the Charles Regatta. Just google that one. You can't get a hotel in the entire Boston area that weekend.
- Also, the Freedom Trail is a thing, but mostly for school groups and tourists. It's a path that connects the major Revolution-era sites, and ends at the Bunker Hill monument (which, famously, is on Breed's Hill). I can't see two adults going on this unless they were trying to prove something to each other by walking the whole thing then climbing the monument (there are stairs inside).
- There are duck boats and swan boats. They are different, and they are both for kids and tourists.

Also, be aware that "Boston proper" is different than what most people think of when they think of the city of Boston. Like--NYC is one city with five boroughs. Boston didn't incorporate like that. Cambridge and Brookline are separate cities. Boston proper is a weird shape that sort of stretches around Brookline. Cambridge and Brookline people get huffy when people call them Boston.

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Date: 2026-07-06 04:04 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jadelennox

I think they practice at Warrior Ice Arena, in Brighton. It's across town but Boston's a small town. (Note that Allston, like Brighton, Charlestown, and Dorchester, actually is a neighborhood of Boston proper, even though as ivyfic says most of the area names you hear aren't Boston at all. It's not like NYC or Houston or Atlanta; Boston's really a tiny proportion of the metro area.)

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Date: 2026-07-06 11:10 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] skygiants
They do indeed practice at Warrior Ice Arena now but only since it opened 2016; before that they practiced at the Bright-Landry Hockey Center in Harvard I think, which is still more or less in the same general neighborhood. (This is an area I know Extremely Well lol and Guest Street which hosts the Warrior Ice Arena in particular been in various stages of construction for the past decade, I think it's maybe just this year that they finally wrapped everything up.)

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Date: 2026-07-06 01:00 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ivyfic
Yeah, I had to google this so I'm glad other people are jumping in. It took me awhile to figure out where the Bruins even play, because the arena was called the Fleet Center when I was growing up but, you know, Fleet Bank went bust so it's not called that anymore. (Anyway, it's on top of North Station, which causes some issues for getting to the trains when something's going on.) I was never much of a sports fan, and I haven't lived in Boston for thirty years, except for the one year I was there for grad school. I'm still up there all the time because of family, though. That also means I mostly know where young adults just starting out and blue collar people live, and not where rich people live! Google tells me NHL players largely live in Back Bay and Charlestown--that makes sense, those are expensive areas of the downtown. And for suburbs, it said Newton, but that's my rival town so I'm legally prohibited from saying good things about them I think.

Also, for suburbs--Boston suburbs are all 400 year-old towns, so they're not like the suburban sprawl in most of the US. They're still fairly dense, lots of sidewalks, very walkable, and at least in my hometown, fair amount of mixed use. Like, the house I grew up in was a stand alone starter home (2-bedroom) on a quarter acre two doors from a bakery, around the block from a drug store, and a block from a train station. People have started buying multiple lots and knocking down homes to build bigger houses, so it's changing, but the experience of a Boston suburb is a lot closer to like Brooklyn than it is to housing developments with cul-de-sacs, you know?

(And no, I'm not watching Heated Rivalry, sorry.)

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Date: 2026-07-06 03:58 am (UTC)
jadelennox: the Boston Red Sox's Tim Wakefield: Wakefield is my fandom (sox: wakefield)
From: [personal profile] jadelennox

if you read anywhere about the pretty big outdoor christmas market -- it's new, and wasn't there during the oughts. There's not really a central place for Christmas stuff. All the shopping districts get christmasy, of course: Newbury Street, Quincy Market, Harvard Square, and all the little neighborhoods will have some little street fair or something. If your story takes place after 2007 Ilya will definitely go to the Slutcracker (a visiting Shane might horrify him by doing the Jingle Bell Run instead).

Nobody has a big standalone house convenient to the arena; that area's too downtown. You might have a luxury condo not that far away, but not a standalone house. Most of Boston's well-paid pro athletes live in the burbs in standalone mansions, or in condos or fully attached brownstones in the Back Bay or Beacon Hill or in Charlestown. (Those fully attached brownstones are often full on mansions, even though they may look like crowded urban terrace housing to people from places with more space.) For a house he's possibly in Newton, Wellesley, maybe Dover or Attleboro.

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Date: 2026-07-06 04:19 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] starlady
Yeah, a lot of fic I've read has him living in Newton because it's apparently close to the practice facilities.

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Date: 2026-07-06 10:51 pm (UTC)
jadelennox: the Boston Red Sox's Tim Wakefield: Wakefield is my fandom (sox: wakefield)
From: [personal profile] jadelennox

Newton's a funny place. I know from the news that there are athletes with mansions out there (like this one. But I'd tell you I know a fair amount of the town and yet the Zillow rank of houses by most expensive shows the kind of properties I'd have said barely exist in this part of the state.

The place has enough density to support 7 subway stops and 3 commuter train stops, and that's the neighborhoods of Newton a lot of us know pretty well. And then there's the rest of it, and I've never even seen those parts of town. That 12 million dollar house on zillow is only a 25 minute walk from a subway station and less than 5 miles from at least five affordable housing complexes. And yet I've never seen any house around there that looks that big.

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Date: 2026-07-06 01:03 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ivyfic
When I was singing in the choir for Trinity Church on Copley, we were invited to one of those fully attached brownstones on Comm Ave, owned by a hedge fund guy. It had historic Boston Ballet costumes on display on the landings (they were benefactors) and huge oil painting portraits of the family. And I realized while this party was ostensibly for the choir--we were, in fact, the help. They threw us a party so that we would stand artfully on their staircase and serenade them with carols. It was a deeply weird experience.

But I don't think even pro athletes have the money for that.

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Date: 2026-07-06 10:33 pm (UTC)
jadelennox: the Boston Red Sox's Tim Wakefield: Wakefield is my fandom (sox: wakefield)
From: [personal profile] jadelennox

oh maaaaan that sounds surreal.

my high school was two Back Bay brownstones knocked together (on Comm Ave near Copley 👀) and while I'm sure it was luxurious in its heyday, for us it was just a shabby, overstuffed high school building. Gym/cafeteria in the basement, fancy dark woodwork mantlepieces on linoleum-floored classrooms full of desks, puke-colored carpet, smelly teenagers everywhere.

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Date: 2026-07-06 12:39 pm (UTC)
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*hugs*

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