owlboy: (LGBTQ - Divine)
Helena Bottom Harder ([personal profile] owlboy) wrote2023-08-09 04:01 am
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oh yeah

addendum to operation spanner post: the bit in the 1940s with Furfur and the photo has lavender scare blackmail vibes

the ball is very... queer safe space getting raided

interesting how they invoked this kinda... oppressive homophobic atmosphere in s2 that was much more subtextual in s1 i guess
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masakochan: (Digimon Tamers - @_@)

[personal profile] masakochan 2023-08-08 07:23 pm (UTC)(link)
interesting how they invoked this kinda... oppressive homophobic atmosphere in s2

Unfortunately- that mirrors the current times I feel like we're living in right now. :[
owlboy: (i just want to fight tories that's what)

[personal profile] owlboy 2023-08-08 07:25 pm (UTC)(link)
amazing how much crazier it's gotten in four years, huh
elisi: Crowley (Gay crimes)

[personal profile] elisi 2023-08-08 09:09 pm (UTC)(link)
interesting how they invoked this kinda... oppressive homophobic atmosphere in s2 that was much more subtextual in s1 i guess
I think maybe... because *they* are much more open about their relationship, the contrast is harsher? In S1 they meet in secret and are still trying (if badly) to hide. Now Crowley slams the bookshop door in Shax's face, and she threatens *Aziraphale*, not Crowley himself. /I have just re-watched ep 3

Also just thank you for pulling this out, there is so much chatter in fandom about 3 million different theories and general flailing, that a lot of this stuff isn't getting noticed.
owlboy: (Good Omens - queen)

[personal profile] owlboy 2023-08-08 09:23 pm (UTC)(link)
i wish i could write a proper meta on it but my brain isnt working. there was other interesting stuff too
elisi: The dead boys <3 (Bloody Good Omens)

[personal profile] elisi 2023-08-08 09:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I am still in the 'imbibing all the takes' stage, but at some point I will be gathering it all together in my own meta. I'd be happy to pull all your queer stuff together for you. <3
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owlboy: (The Birdcage - Agador)

[personal profile] owlboy 2023-08-08 09:29 pm (UTC)(link)
ty <3
owlboy: (Good Omens - Southern Pansy)

[personal profile] owlboy 2023-08-08 10:45 pm (UTC)(link)
i think in s1 their relationship was a thread in a larger story, whereas in s2 it's the entire point. so there is a deeper exploration of what it Means to be queer, and of being visibly queer to others
promethia_tenk: (crowley aziraphale)

[personal profile] promethia_tenk 2023-08-09 11:01 am (UTC)(link)
This makes sense. Very much looking forward to anything else you can get down.

It was a bit of an adjustment for me to realize that everything, no, literally everything is about them. Like, I first watched the season and it felt disjointed, and I knew it would come together more once I started looking at themes and mirrors and such. But still that didn't seem like enough. It still felt odd. But finally I came to realize there is no other organizing principle at play here: it's only about them.
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[personal profile] promethia_tenk 2023-08-09 11:02 am (UTC)(link)
Also just thank you for pulling this out, there is so much chatter in fandom about 3 million different theories and general flailing, that a lot of this stuff isn't getting noticed.
^^^^ This. I'm hungry for the takes that, I keep having to remind myself, we probably didn't get until a month into our collective flailing last time.
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