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coffinturk ([personal profile] coffinturk) wrote in [community profile] lastvoyageslogs2025-01-09 07:08 pm
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Welcome To My VINCENT Talk: Sex Ed. [Closed]

Who: Vincent Valentine, Kadaj, Yazoo, Aerith
Where: Vincent's Cabin
When: Beginning of January 2025
Warnings: Educational Sex Talk, Condoms/Safe Sex, Vague References to Hentai Magazines, Mentions of Non-consentual in an academic explanation

Cabin Interior
His cabin has doors that lead to other rooms; closed today. The main area transitions from a modest kitchen, a bar counter, to a furnished sitting area. The furnishings- a couple of chairs and a couch- all have the faded, well cared for look of antique furniture. Soft lamps run on power, though give the impression of oil lanterns of bygone times. The whole of it lends to the aesthetic of a mansion. During the day maybe a bit mysterious. At night perhaps a little haunting.

The kitchen matches that aesthetic, though there are several conventional, modern appliances in place. There's a washer and dryer tucked in a corner and some overhead lights that give the option for a brighter environment.

There are books on shelves, a few small trinkets. A statue that seems to be a shrouded figure encased in crystal. And a succulent that has thrived in Vincent's care.



At the end of the conversations, the gathering of materials needed, books that combine conventional texts with one or two less clinically sterilized. Vincent intends to eschew charts and visual aids in favor of... well, discussion.

The condoms aren't available yet. Aerith's running a bit behind picking up a few things. There will probably be no bananas. At least there's none in sight.

There's no snacks set out. The reason he didn't have much on hand is because he's been taking the time to stop by the kitchen and visit Sokie, grab a bite to eat; thus he hadn't kept stock at his place. Coffee and alcohol... no, he won't be putting those out. There's water but any other beverages will be based on what Yazoo and Kadaj decide to bring.

When knocking comes, Vincent will open the door and invite arrivals inside. The counter is where they'll be asked to drop off food, then nodded toward the main part of the room to settle. He's as quiet as ever for now.
brattyremains: (dont you know)

[personal profile] brattyremains 2025-01-10 04:39 am (UTC)(link)
He first met up with Yazoo to help with getting drinks and snacks before heading towards Vincent's. In one hand was an assortment of magazines, some of which were heavily marked by Kadaj himself as he tried to figure out exactly how some of the stuff in them worked. He didn't show them to Yazoo yet, because first he wanted to make sure they were both starting on the same level before dissecting the impossible.

"Do you think he will give us a good lecture or do we need pillows?" Lectures were boring, right?
slingingbullets: skillfully, cleverly / cunningly, slyly, subtly. (callide)

[personal profile] slingingbullets 2025-01-10 01:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Yazoo carries drinks and snacks in his arms, bearing the weight of the hoard as if it weighs nothing. He cants his head to see the magazines, but he trusts Kadaj to share when he is ready. There are no secrets between them!

"I don't think this one will be boring."

Not with how everyone was trying to wiggle out of giving it!

"It must be interesting. Tendi didn't want to talk about it and Angeal seemed reluctant."

So. Uncle Vincent to the rescue, right?
brattyremains: (but really)

[personal profile] brattyremains 2025-01-11 06:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Kadaj does a very good imitation of a sulky teen rolling his eyes at Uncle Vincent's directions but still complies with the snacks going where they need to go. He pauses though, tilts his head at the stack of magazines before he silently just hands them over followed by his communicator.

"It's not like I would record this," he mutters and helps Yazoo with laying out the snack spread. "There's all sorts of things like that in the Library. I was correcting the one. It's stupid."
slingingbullets: to go to, approach, address, attack. (aggredior)

[personal profile] slingingbullets 2025-01-12 01:23 am (UTC)(link)
Yazoo smirks at the bluntness and sets out the snacks and drinks, grabbing one of the latter for himself. He is wearing an oversized sweater again because. What? It's comfortable! His hair is still wet - whether that's from showering or swimming, who can say?

"Why can't we record it?" he is just being oppositional for the hell of it, "Mm."

Fishing out his communicator, he hands it over and takes a seat, crossing his legs.
brattyremains: (srs now)

[personal profile] brattyremains 2025-01-13 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
"They're scientifically wrong. Bodies don't work like that."

His own body had a passing nod to how one should work even with the liming factors in place, but yet he found the magazines worse. He knew his body was odd, but that was how he was made. Humans should know a little better.

Grabbing a drink he took a seat next to Yazoo, sprawling against his brother's side. He too was dressed in comfy - leggings and an oversized sweater in bright colors with his hair pulled back from his face.

"I drew corrections."
slingingbullets: to think, ruminate, ponder, consider, plan. (cogito)

[personal profile] slingingbullets 2025-01-15 03:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Yazoo gives a hum of approval and opens his drink, taking a sip. His cat-like eyes shift from one object to the next, drinking in all of the little details that add up to a comfortable space for Vincent Valentine. Huh. He really should work on his own quarters. This place is a lot...warmer. Aerith's cabin had been equally inviting to his senses. Interesting.

He notices his gift and he smiles, nudging Kadaj to point it out to him too.

"He didn't throw it away." and that leaves him a bit proud.

But then he is drawn into their conversation, curious. Why would anyone draw anatomically wrong illustrations for sex? That seems like something that should be gotten right.

"What were they screwing up?"
brattyremains: (heh no)

[personal profile] brattyremains 2025-01-15 07:25 pm (UTC)(link)
"He didn't." A nod because that's good. Someone else likes the picture and that was Vincent himself. The Turk was getting more and more on Kadaj's good side despite the past fights they had. Though those were fun.

"Extreme sizing of body parts, wrong positions for legs and arms, too small of a back to support the anatomy, reproductive organs way too long, acting like they can do a full penetration and come out of the mouth." He understands that some people have different ideas about how bodies work, but there has to be a limit. There were too many bits that were just wrong.

Kadaj blinks at the question, frowning slightly. He wasn't sure if Yazoo knew some of this, but bodies were obvious. They knew at least enough to figure out where to hit.

"To continue the species, breeding for certain traits, and yes, I know anatomy."
slingingbullets: (+ abl.) without. (absque)

[personal profile] slingingbullets 2025-01-16 12:37 pm (UTC)(link)
"Of course he does." his brother is his leader for a reason! If anyone can make sense of sex and the relationships that follow, it's Kadaj. He's glad they can have this lesson together.

"Full penetration that comes out of the mouth...?" he wrinkles his nose, "What do they call that? Gutting?" he laughs lightly, "No, skewering. You'd have to use a sword for that and they wouldn't survive it."

Forget sex! That move is about survival.

"I get how our bodies work." he answers Vincent now, "Women are probably more complicated than we are since they carry young." or so he presumes, "There's the pleasure aspect too. Some people do it just because they like it."

As for what sex means... Yazoo raises his shoulders in a shrug.
brattyremains: (still thinking)

cw: negative aspects of sex, r-word, description of non-consenual or death

[personal profile] brattyremains 2025-01-16 07:59 pm (UTC)(link)
"Flesh is really not strong enough for that sort of thing," he replied to Yazoo, nodding once. He preferred his sword and he knew just how much Souba can damage a person if he were to use it like the stuff in those magazines but... there was no point in that. It was far easier to just slash and be done. Why prolong things unless it was for information? But even then, they had better methods.

"So it's a fantasy they are working out or an idea that won't leave or just something to get paid for? Is that what you're saying? Is there limits on acceptable ranges or is that mostly on how people work it out first?"
slingingbullets: falling headlong. (cernuus)

cw: negative aspects of sex, r-word, description of non-consenual or death

[personal profile] slingingbullets 2025-01-16 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Yazoo shifts to see the magazines, wanting to get a better idea of these...caricatures. Imagination is something he values - it adds to his fun - so he should, theoretically, support the odd ideas and pictures. But. But what's the point if they can't be acted out? It seems like a waste of time that will only end in disappointment.

"Pointless." he sighs and sits back, "Focusing on the impossible will only lead to depression. If you can't do it, work on something else."

Morality is another issue entirely - one that Yazoo knows nothing about.
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[personal profile] brattyremains 2025-01-19 03:30 am (UTC)(link)
He frowned, thinking over it carefully. It was if this was far more complicated than to just harm and cause death, which considering at how all those people had reacted, might be the case. Flesh and weapons were different. He knew that. That was partly why he didn't understand the odder drawings and how much it expanded on what flesh could do. And if people can't do that in reality, they had turned to a fiction where it could happen.

"This isn't just about physical needs?" Vincent seemed to be treading carefully on some kind of tightrope. Something that goes far beyond what people can and cannot do. Of what weapons can and cannot do. Morality wasn't a lesson he ever really had thought of.

"You said willing and illusions. Is this like how He used us in order to gain Mother's cells just so he could fight Big Brother?"

That was against his will. Once he knew it. Was that similar? It was easy enough to think of it that way.
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[personal profile] slingingbullets 2025-01-19 10:53 pm (UTC)(link)
The magazine is taken eagerly and Yazoo loses himself in perusing it, saying nothing while Kadaj and Vincent converse. He only looks up at Kadaj's last set of questions. Anger flashes in his green eyes and he clutches the magazine tighter.

"Our limits weren't considered." so, if that sort of logic is followed, they had been forced, hadn't they?

Kept naive. Kept willing because what child doesn't love their mother? Each piece able to become Mother's "perfect child" in order to rid Gaia of Cloud Strife.

It is gross and Yazoo forgets the magazine, his expression cloudy.
brattyremains: (dont you know)

Re: cw: manipulation, control, abuse

[personal profile] brattyremains 2025-02-07 04:58 am (UTC)(link)
"So it comes to intent, and agency. Violence in all forms, whether it is sexual or not. We need to understand the whole tangle of it, if it's for pleasure, or for pain, and be willing to know when the pain part pushes past acceptable.

"And that's why everyone was upset when we wanted to know more about a 'sex dungeon'. Because the lines are blurred even among humans. Right?"

There were some things they could figure out easily enough, but it was faster to ask people. Having people stumble over themselves when it comes to some things though makes it harder to learn things. And they really do need to learn things. How can they be people if no one tells them stuff they should be aware of?

"Because to some, the consent of partners is stronger than the fear of pain?"
slingingbullets: greedy, avaricious. (avarus)

[personal profile] slingingbullets 2025-02-07 10:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Yazoo lets go of the magazine, but only because he has his sights on something new. Seeing Vincent struggling with seeing them (as independent beings) has him in motion. He sets his drink to the side while Kadaj talks and in a blur, he is sitting beside Vincent and holding out a bare hand.

"Touch. Don't I feel alive?" he asks quietly once Kadaj asks his final question, "Life can come from all sorts of places, can't it? Not all creatures are grown in a womb. Some are hatched. Some grow from seeds. So what if Kadaj, Loz and I came from shadows? That was our seed, that's all."

Now onto the ideas of consent and...violence.

"Even with consent, being too violent would be atrocious to most, right?"
brattyremains: (ruins of what was)

Re: cw: (discussion of ) implied grooming

[personal profile] brattyremains 2025-02-17 10:51 pm (UTC)(link)
He watches Yazoo and Vincent, sees the offered hand and how the Turk responds by baring his own and accepting it. Exhaling slowly, he stood up and blurs as he moves to Vincent's other side, his clothing rippling as he pulls back the gloves and reaches out to touch Vincent's hand.

"What we want..?"

Before it was all Mother. They were looking for Mother, they needed Her to become whole. But wasn't that just to become a certain type of wholeness? The kind that was dictated by Sephiroth? As his shadows, pieces of his mind directed in a single purpose? Pieces that started to have their own thoughts and needs but still held inside that single focused need.

But what do they want now? That was easy. Time. To learn, to grow, to be real. And part of all that included having conversations like this. So they knew why some subjects makes other people upset.

"We were weapons. Tools. What we wanted is what our creator wanted. And tools never asked why they needed to use tactics like what we did with those children. It wasn't necessary for us to know. Only that it was a step that would led us to our goal.

"But now? We do not want to be tools or weapons. As for what we want?" He shrugged, looking over at Yazoo, wishing that Loz was here too to hear this. To make his own thoughts be heard. "We are learning so we can figure that out."
slingingbullets: somebody else's, foreign, alien, strange, different. (alienus)

Re: cw: (discussion of ) implied grooming

[personal profile] slingingbullets 2025-03-03 10:32 am (UTC)(link)
Empathy is a confusing subject and Yazoo is bright enough to understand that it is connected with guilt. When one breaks the law or hurts someone, both emotions should come into play. He wonders if there is something missing in him in that case. He had done plenty of atrocities for Mother and he had never felt a thing.

"If we become independent, if we move away from all we have known, does that mean we'll be filled with regret?"

He doesn't want that. Who would? Yet the call to be himself - the call to understand himself - is too strong to resist.

"I want to be real." he states softly, touching Vincent and Kadajs' hands, examining them, trying to note any differences, "I want to know who I am. Maybe...even if it hurts. Even if I end up hating what I did for Mother."

The sacrilege! His voice is quiet, cautious and he almost expects a punishment.