tucky: (have you seen my hunting rifle?)
Tiffany Doggett ([personal profile] tucky) wrote in [community profile] lastvoyages2015-09-06 10:55 am
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I got a question for y'all. It's about the mental compulsion stuff. I wanna know why a lot of people think it's the worst thing you can do. I guess some of y'all think it's a lot worse in this case 'cause the guy who did it was a warden, but to me, it don't sound like that's all of it - Arthas was saying it was the worst before this even happened. Is it 'cause it makes you lose yourself? When you're getting killed or beat up or tortured, you can still try to fight back - but if you get mentally compulsed, you can't do anything, and you're helpless.

Is that it, or are there other reasons too? 'Cause I...

[She trails off. She does care about the Rohan-Cassel issue, but she also has Predictable Warden Reasons for asking about this, and she knows that a lot of people are going to know that.]

... I get it; I do. I sure as hell don't wanna be forced into doing stuff. It ain't the worst thing to me, but it'd be awful if I was made to do something big and bad. But I wanna hear why from your own mouths too, 'cause some of you have probably got different reasons from me.

And I am gonna listen and take you seriously.

[filtered to Rohan]

Did you die? Was that--

[Was the head you? is what she's asking.]
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[personal profile] routemistress 2015-09-06 03:41 pm (UTC)(link)
It's removing your ability to choose what 'appens to you. It's an enormous violation of free will. It's like you said - someone tries to kill you at least you can fight back or run away.

You know, out of every bad thing that's 'appened to me 'ere in three years, there's only one I still feel sick thinking about. That were a breach I spent under someone else's control. 'Aving me mind shut down and me memories messed with.

There's more'n one person 'ere with the ability to do that. I could myself, if I tried 'ard and you weren't too resistant. It's not the ability I'm scared of, it's 'aving it belong to someone that doesn't think it's a big deal.
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omar: (got me confused with a man who repeat)

[personal profile] omar 2015-09-06 03:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Man ain't himself, he ain't nothing.
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[personal profile] chaotica 2015-09-06 03:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, that.

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[personal profile] formerself 2015-09-06 04:03 pm (UTC)(link)
i was gonna say some other stuff but this is basically it, yeah.

[Omar stop being so admirable all the time. :/]

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[personal profile] chaotica 2015-09-06 03:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I value free will, and free thoughts, above all else. It is the deepest violation there is to an independent being.

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leavetreadmarks: (Double Tank Lip Purse)

[personal profile] leavetreadmarks 2015-09-06 04:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks for asking this, Tiffany.

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[personal profile] semifreakingnormal 2015-09-06 04:34 pm (UTC)(link)
After I was first bit, when I barely knew what was going on and couldn't really control it, the alpha tried to make me kill my friends.

[He still remembers it; vividly, because he had to keep living through it with Clementine in their groundhog day loop.]

I don't know if it's my worst thing, either. But it could have been, if I hadn't been able to fight it.

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[personal profile] nibs 2015-09-06 04:50 pm (UTC)(link)
[It both figures and is completely baffling to Rohan that Tiffany is asking after his well-being. On the one hand, it figures because she seems to be the type nosy enough to ask even if she doesn't like someone and someone he really didn't like had actually bothered to carry him down to the infirmary and look after him for at least a little while. But it's baffling because why bother? He doesn't understand.]

I did. [His voice is still a little raw and hoarse. It's not as bad as it was even just a day ago, but it'd be difficult for him to lie and pretend that nothing had happened at all.] I suppose you want to know the morbid little details.

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[personal profile] demolitions 2015-09-06 05:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Lemme ask you a question first—why do you even need to ask such a thing? It might be inferred you were lookin' for a reason to excuse that kinda behavior, in the event of a similar occurrence involvin' a person against whom you might not be entirely unbiased.

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I was possessed once by the unstoppable force of the will of the warlord Sutekh, a vile and anathemical abomination - a hateful, murderous, truly evil being for whom I carry more contempt than for almost anything else in the universe. The worst part was that he believed himself to be a God and thus forced me to worship him and love him and praise his name. To be forced to love a creature so repugnant, so beneath the point at which any form of compassion is reasonable, is an unfathomable crime. I defeated him and yet still sometimes, before I fall asleep, I can feel the bruise of that grip, the bliss of that religious ecstasy.

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[personal profile] drbyronorpheus 2015-09-06 06:02 pm (UTC)(link)
[He considers this seriously.]

Compulsions may often be unethical, even abominable. However... it is not quite so clear cut. If one is being attacked, is it better to physically hit your attacker or to simply suggest that they sleep? Either way the attacker is unconscious, but brute force might leave them with a brain injury.



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When you're dead, there's only so much they can do to your body after that. Mind's a different story.

And your mind's what makes you who you are.

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[With anyone else he wouldn't even bother, but Tiff's one of the few people he can believe might be asking in good faith.]

The X-men's boss does it to us all the time. It's... screwed up.

[Unfortunately he's not actually a great communicator.]

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imfollowinghim: (I'll be in the angry dome.)

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[personal profile] imfollowinghim 2015-09-06 09:43 pm (UTC)(link)
it's the most violating thing that can happen to you. it's like you're not even a person anymore.

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notwhoiwas: (really?  that's where this is going?)

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From what I understand it's like... like being overwritten. Like you're there but you aren't really you.

[The fact the idea of not being yourself runs parallel to his some of his own issues isn't something he cares to mention.]

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