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lastvoyages2020-09-10 12:11 pm
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So. Wardens. Do you think this place is meant to be good for Inmates, and if yes, are you putting in any effort to make it that way? Is this place meant to make Inmates better-adjusted people? Are you guys employing any sort of exit/reintroduction strategy?
Just asking. From a guy who's been in institutions that at least at one point pretended to have those things in their mission statement.
Or do you just want us to feel bad so that you can send us home to be someone else's problem?
Because what's happening over in the Multiverse's unfunniest ginger's little broadcast over there? Is kind of on you guys. And he only just happened to stay here. How many did you let go that are back at home beating the Hell out of themselves and miserable, or paying dividends on something they already paid for by dying?
And why is that good enough for you?
Just asking. From a guy who's been in institutions that at least at one point pretended to have those things in their mission statement.
Or do you just want us to feel bad so that you can send us home to be someone else's problem?
Because what's happening over in the Multiverse's unfunniest ginger's little broadcast over there? Is kind of on you guys. And he only just happened to stay here. How many did you let go that are back at home beating the Hell out of themselves and miserable, or paying dividends on something they already paid for by dying?
And why is that good enough for you?

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Dying doesn't make up for anything you've done with the rest of your life.
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Followup question, just for you: Do you think you might just be softening these people up to go back and pay in some other fashion, then?
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Speaking more as a former inmate than a current warden, I have would ask why you believe it's a warden's responsibility to have their inmate make peace with their previous lives and deeds.
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I know at least one inmate that started out wanting to die for 'is guilt. 'E's going to live with that the rest of 'is life, which is fair, but the Barge cured 'im of thinking self-flagellation meant anything - especially to the people 'e hurt.
Dying doesn't pay for anything. Becoming a person that doesn't put more suffering into the world is what we aim for 'ere, and we've succeeded very well at that.
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Also I'm please not to be the unfunniest ginger, on a more selfish note
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[ Barbara stares at him steadily, thoughtfully. She's been doing her best to separate him from the Joker she knew, trying to tread the line between reasonable caution and useless hatred. ]
There are Inmates I worry about, once they head back into the world that shaped them. There are things the Admiral could do to mitigate a that, and a hell of a lot more, that he doesn't. I love this place, but not because it's perfect.
[ Being so earnest with him could be a mistake. But he's an Inmate, and that has to come first.
Besides, she can't help but remember a man who went out of his way to comfort a scared, desperate girl who felt broken and abandoned. She can't help but wonder if he'd ever been like that. ]
I can promise you this, though: the Barge isn't Arkham.
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[With the aid of the notes she took beforehand. She's listened to everything that's showed up on this post so far - multiple times, in some cases.]
One - I think this place is meant to be good, but I don't think the Admiral's intentions are always something that matter in practice.
Two - I spent a while trying to use deals and requests to make big changes in how the Barge is run. None of 'em worked. I would try again if I thought of something new to ask - but I'd only use the deals with the permission of my inmate, because I give those to them now. Mostly right now I focus on smaller things I can accomplish myself.
Three - Same answer as one.
Four - Sometimes, on like-- an individual level. I've always talked with my inmates about what they're gonna do after they go, and what plans they have, and what they want their lives to be like - I've had talks like that with other people that I wasn't paired with, too. I haven't ever tried to make anybody stay, though, even if I worried about them. And some people I've been more worried about than others.
Five - I don't actively want anybody to feel bad.
Six - I don't know Hux much at all so I can't speak for him, but I believe it's possible to feel bad about something for the rest of your life and still keep moving forward. You're probably right, though; there's probably people who've gone home and been too fucked up by guilt or shame or trauma to live good and happy lives. But I don't think-- the Barge isn't the only place, or even always the best place, to work that shit out. And I don't think leaving here fucked up means they're doomed to be fucked up forever. I think everybody should be able to leave here if they want - inmates, too - and so yeah, if somebody who's able to leave decides they're gonna go, I'm not gonna try to stop them, even if they're not doing too good. Mostly I'll trust that they're doing the best thing they can do for themselves, but even if I don't--
[She pauses here for just a hitch.]
If I only respect somebody's choices when they're choices that I agree with, I ain't actually respecting their choices at all.
Seven - Who says it's good enough for me?
[Another pause, longer this time.]
I like your kind of pot-stirring.
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THANK GOD I FOUND A SEMANTIC PROBLEM WITH THIS ARGUMENT. FOR A SECOND THERE, I WAS AFRAID I WOULD HAVE TO THINK ABOUT A COMPLICATED PROBLEM THAT I DON'T HAVE A GOOD SOLUTION FOR, AND THAT WOULD HAVE MADE ME REALLY ANGRY.
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