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could I have a hint for this level? I assume you have to turn off your light and then set up the balls in a way that you can get them onto the buttons after you turn the light back on, but there doesn't seem to be enough space to position them so that you can get them onto the buttons without melting the other. What am I missing here?
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For those that are still struggling with this like I was:
The first hint led me down the wrong path because it made it seem like the left snowball is the problem and not the right one in OP's screenshot but it's the other way around actually.
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Had this issue. You need to go to account settings on itch.io and check “Prefer Markdown input where available”.
You should know everything you need to solve The Wall, though Glimpse has an interaction you likely haven’t seen yet. Here are some hints, let me know if you’d like additional ones!
Glimpse
The Wall
unfortunately the hint for glimpse doesnt tell me anything I didnt know already (the name helps figure that part out), my current theory is somehow to be able to get the snow on the button without the light already shining at the moth, then melt the snow (I know how to do the latter but not the former). as for wall I feel like I know half of it, but I always end with only 3/4 buttons pressed (I'm quite certain about melting the top row except the 1st snowball)
I believe with the initial solution you will understand and replicate on the other rows.
Ask yourself, what movement will bring snow onto the button without showing the light to the moth.
I figured turning the button on but can't seem to know what to do next because if I try to show the moth the light follows beyond the goal switch. How to make it stop on that goal button
These hints are assuming you’re stuck near the end, but let if know if you (or anyone else seeing this) need help getting to the block on the left.
Amazing how hard these tiny puzzles can be. It feels like there are so few options to try, and I still managed to overlook this solution. Thanks for the hints! Awesome game.
Thanks, Got It! I did know that I had to show the light and melt the snow at the same time but couldn't figure out how. Thanks for the suggestion.
Here are a few hints to get you started, these are mainly about getting the concept but let me know if you’d like help with the setup after:
First, I’ll just state the concept of the puzzle (if anyone is struggling with this part and wants less direct hints, let me know):
Help! The Ceiling chapter is toooo diiffffcult. Such as this level(Intersection), I have three ways to entry the left area, but I can't back to the right area, its means I shoud prepare well. Put the logs in right place before entry the left area. I think the bottom entrance is designed for player, because only the ball in player's back this entrance can play a role, but the player can't reach the green grid. How to solve it? I also can't solve other levels in ceiling chapter expect the first level.
Corners - Tight Turn:
feel free to ask more hints. ^-^
I was having some trouble writing hints for this one, let me know if there is still a specific part you’d like help with.
Bloom: Fill
Feel free to ask more hints ^-^
I did want a slight difficulty drop between Variety and Bloom for pacing reasons, though it seems it ended up a lot more drastic than I intended. I think some of the main factors are:
Point 2 gives me hope that I may not have seen the interaction I need to solve Variety: Path. I've cleared all levels (besides a few Variety) up to Ceiling. Have I likely seen the key interaction or is it is still upcoming?
You most likely haven’t used the trick from Path in any solutions yet (interaction might’ve been too strong a word).
Almost missed this but here are a few hints if you still need them!
It happens any time the lizard and light would otherwise end the move with a gap between them. For example, if you try to move while the light is stuck against a corner, the light can’t move so the lizard would end up stretching the chain an extra tile. This results in the light toggling and the player snapping back to the tile they started on. If you try the same setup where the light is stuck against the corner but something is blocking the player from moving (like a wall), that won’t cause a toggle because the lizard can’t travel far enough to form a gap. Let me know if there is a specific example where you’re curious why a toggle does/doesn’t work.
These hints are pretty small and focused on the concept, so let me know if there is a specific part of the setup you’d like help with.
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"getting a block away from the left platform, which doesn't seem feasible without dropping down." But I don't see how how I would do it from below either… I guess I need to place the moth south of the button, then push it north with a stack (maybe with the light or the lizard on top of a block) but I don't see how to get a block in that column.
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It seems I'm as bad with details/summary formatting as solving the puzzle…
No worries, it seems you need to enable “Prefer Markdown input where available” in profile settings for it to actually work, I’ll edit my post to include that part.
I’ve enable markdown but it’s not available when I edit my previous comment, only for new comments.
Finally!!! I was able to solve it!!!
I already had all levels solved until Variety where now I have 9/15 solved, but I couldn't see how to do Idea until I thought about doing that.
It wasn't easy at all, this game has truly astonishing puzzles.
I also already solved all levels in Bloom, only 2 levels left in Ceiling, and I reached to Advanced where I haven't been able to solve any level yet.
You have to have been mad to come up with this one :-)
Thanks, finally figured it out.
Didn't even think about using the thing to fix the thing so you can use it to change the thing. 😁
So it was a construct that I didn't need to use in any previous level that I didn't even think of.
Thanks, I figured it out. This one took me a while…
I have no idea how Steven Miller came up with these puzzles. Is AI or something else used to find puzzles that have only one solution? It’s got to be hard to come up with so many puzzles that so many people think are “impossible” but yet are completely solvable. It’s unlike pretty much any other puzzle game in this respect.
Also, most puzzle games keep introducing a new mechanic with new pieces added to the puzzle that have new properties to keep it interesting, but for the most part, in Pull-Chain everything is there from the start, maybe adding a few things like the snowball, web, and the 2-level mechanic, but other than that, it is just about using things you always could, but just didn’t have the need or environment to use or discover them.
Thanks for making it, Mr. Miller!
My general process is starting with a property of one of the mechanics or an interaction between multiple mechanics that I find interesting. Once I have that, I think about some interesting outcomes of that property/interaction, specifically looking for ones that differ from what you could normally do if that object/group of objects wasn’t present. Then I just need to make a layout where that outcome needs to happen in order for the puzzle to be solved. If nothing comes to mind, I usually consider adding additional mechanics to make these differences more meaningful (the webs are actually a good example of this). This is probably way too vague, so here is a quick example from the game:
Stephen’s Sausage Roll pretty heavily shaped my taste in puzzle mechanics, it has a similar style where most of the mechanics are introduced right at the start and later puzzles just force you to interact with them in new ways.
I'm a little stuck here. I don't know how to use hint 2 and 3.
