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What a fantastic update..  I loved the...... Dress up.... bits.... but I think our MC is right.. it time she dropped the charade :P 

I cannot wait until she is willing to face that she is just a depraved MILF minx who is in love with the MC and  is incredibly aroused and turned on both making the ...  art.. they make together.... AND because she's.... who she is... in relation to the Wifey material. 

We already got a nice little ... sorority... moment within that... household....if there is a god reading this... he will bless us with the same with the Dress Up Milf involved.... she is a very cleanly woman, after all... and a nice little... feeding moment, with those others, like a momma bird feeding...   nutrient rich protein cream.. ..to he naughty little hungry chicks... would be.... delicious. 

Also....  the Matriarch being more involved was nice to see... I just hope we do not have conquer the bitchling, and her manipulative bitch friend, before we ..... bond... deeper... in ... love... with her. 

I am kinda really only interested in this ball for her, because I figure if I pull it off for her, she might do the same for me... then  switch up and swap fingers for lips :p

Awesome... Moon, if what I managed to read about it is correct...seems like it will tie up... one more string... in terms of.. Unification.... but will that be the end, or will there be more in the series.. I kind of hope there will be more, once the... tribe had been reunited. 

OK I jumped for this on Steam, since it popped up when searching for news about another AVN I have... and man, I loved it. I can see where your are going.. I can wait for the Moon game to be released.

One thing though....  two actually.....

1) Cute blonde ingenue ends pregnant I read will that be optional? I dont really like my harem having distended tummies in my AVNs. 

2) Will we get some .... finishing moves..... options? Seems like there is a LOT of cream pies on the menu.... but sometimes you just want to glaze something pretty, like a Doughnut, frost them good, you know what I mean? And given the.... genetic abnormalities... or more specifically, the ...consequences of such... for female line.... and how that plays out by the end (gloriously plays out.. I love it).... even some generational sharing of the... ahem...  frosting... would be really great. Are there some more options to just simple cream fillings on the menu eventually? I really hope so. 

Well, if there IS an Update coming this coming month, it will be worth the wait if it is of the same quality....but I am not sure where the other guy got that info, so yeah,  if there is nothing coming within the next few weeks, I think I will unfollow and delete the game. 

So we got more action in this now? Is that the 10 animations? I have enjoyed this in the past, but ran out of content, is there more now? By content, I mean Adult content, obvs, since this is a AVN type dealio. 

Wow, you look...     disturbed. 

Is there any sex yet or nah? All the teasing feels like it SHOULD pay off. I do not care if it 'is not that kind of game'.... it is an AVN.... go make it as a mystery thriller using the VN format otherwise.... if you make it as an AVN, the A bit is the MOST important bit.... and this seems to be tease fest full of nothing but cockblocking BS, fuck that... lets get eyepatch bent over and creampied, lets get Streamer reamed out in an dirty alley.... lets gets SOMETHING, bloody ANYTHING happening instead of the abortive BS. 

That aint bad, might give this one a look.

To be honest, I do not class the Gym scene NTR either.... but alas.. ... there ARE a lot of fragile lonely guys playing these kinds of games. Whilst NTR and Cuckold are not even the same thing, yet alone when there is no established relationship..... within the fandom of the genre... and in a SMALL part this is due to some games which initially got popular having blindsiding NTR without warning...... but most just through fragility and insecurity of much of the player base.... within the AVN sector... sadly, NTR has come to mean ANY sexual interactions between a Love Interest... or anyone sexually accessible to the PC, and anyone else. 

It is not strictly NTR in the strictest sense, that adheres to the original Japanese traditional definition. BUT, within the AVN sphere.... for much of the player base, ANYTHING whereby a sexually accessible roster character.....be they primary Love Interest, Side Piece, or even just one off pump and dump....has ANY sexual engagement with ANY other party than the MC... but especially with other men... is generally considered NTR. 

Personally, I avoid that if I CAN, but it DOES NOT destroy a game if it happens.... I just understand the self insert egotism of it... I too prefer it when the MC, ME as the PC.... gets all the pussy, and the only NTR/Cucking is ME fucking other men's women, eventually making them mine...... but there is a whole lot of AVN players out there who can ONLY accept this.....the only LGBTQI content can be when THEY as the PC allow additional females to share in sexual encounters with any given one they are focusing on.... and the ONLY infidelity can be when hot bitches suck and fuck their MC... and nothing else at all. 

And if you include such content, without warning, and opt outs to avoid it.... man, they will definitely let you know about it.  It IS a lot of work though, to make two lots of scenes for everything. The BEST games in the genre handle the Trans thing, by making the trans character ... receive...for the most part.. not ... ahem... give... and then make TWO MODELS, one where that character IS trans... and one where they are female... and the player can select at the start. They usually handle the NTR thing... by not necessarily having an equal amount of scenes.... so three NTR scenes... you get three hetero non NTR scenes if you do not chose that path.... but instead they'll often include say three or four to one ratio... if there is say three NTR scenes in a chapter... and players avoid... they get ONE non-NTR sex scene on that path... BUT, they, the devs, will make it a good one, at the longer end of such scenes, multiple angles and perspectives, maybe some really hot kink involved, well lit, well phased, especially hot depraved writing. Apparently that still takes less effort than making three non NTR scenes to match content for the NTR ones... but also usually keeps players happy. 

I'll think about subscribing, but to honest, because I have, in the very early days, scene peoples work from other sites, coopted.... shall we say... and integrated in to works on patreon, without recompense... whilst the person so doing makes money of that work... I have an ethical dislike of the platform, and tbh, usually feel like I will never use it. 

HOWEVER, I'd be happy to pay again, for the completed game, when it is finally done, if it is listed here. 

I enjoyed what there was, the models are gorgeous, the variation is greatly appreciated, the 'Landlady' character is one the hottest mature ladies I've ever seen especially (usually they look way too young, to be the.. Landlady.... or they look their age... but also are rather...  unattractive.. like the Devs cannot imagine what beautiful woman in her 40 s or 50s looks like... but this one? NAILED IT). 

The content build up worked well too, for me.... and the .... exploitation.....twist with the Therapist.... and the ... involvement ...somehow of the Hairdresser (which I hope is made clearer next update).....was hot and built a LOT of anticipation. 

The fact the NTR and Trans content was wholly avoidable was fantastic too. 

It I had any criticisms, they'd only be minor. I would have liked alternate scenes if we DID skip the NTR and Trans content... perhaps BOTH the landlady AND tenant get ... digital... experience with the MC.... even if you choose one the first time.... then the other also eventually gets a turn. to make up for missing a scene by skipping NTR... and perhaps a little moment with... idk.... someone else at the Salon.. if you skip the Trans scene? Something like that would have been nice, since there is such little content, and skipping content you are not into in this case, means you miss out on scenes, when there is so few of them. 

Also, I think, for me, and I am sure this can be improved going forwards... again since there IS so little content for now... I would have LOVED for the landladies... ahem.. shaving... scene... the therapists .... special treatment scene at the end.... and then... her.... night time escapade with big daddy cop...., and the .... um.... Biker.... escape......  to be longer... more detailed.... really show me what I can expect from the scenes going forwards, you know? Maybe some changes in perspective, a little more to them, some changes in angle, that sort of thing, to really highlight what we could expect going forwards. 

But all in all, considering everything.... for a short, early, new game right at the start.... I will give this a VERY sold 9/10.... maybe half a point off for the scenes maybe being a little short, and half a point off for missing out on content when you chose to skip NTR or Trans content. 

I cant wait for more. 

One additional question though, will I now have access to the games future updates, or will I have buy them each time? 

Well dude, flattery gets you everywhere....  you just sold a copy of your game! I enjoyed our conversation too, as said, many devs are far less... approachable... shall we say :)

And it was GLORIOUS

Oh no, we are already at the end game content for some routes? NooooOOOoooOOOoooo....the game is SO GOOD, and the women SO HOT, than I was really hoping for something as epic as Nephilim or Eternum or such in terms of length and content lol. 

I hope there is more to the Ruby Jade routes... a  long Dom route with them would be amazing. 

Will try the update ASAP. 

Well thanks for taking my rambling as it is meant, I just wanted to address any ambiguity in my initial post, for clarity's sake, as well as explain WHY I was asking what I was. 

So, the run time of 1:20 means an hour and half near enough, of content, yes? 

I think I will give this one a try, your professionalism and understanding says very good things about you, and by extension, gives me good vibes for the game (I have dealt with a lot of devs who get extra butt hurt and offended when I hit them up from the get go about details of their game and just HOW MUCH of an actual A-VN it is, so your reply welcomingly refreshing). 

I decided not to play BECAUSE OF YOU. 

Capiche?

I asked some SIMPLE questions about the game, because of the ambiguity in the listing.....  the answers to which YOU, as the DEV, absolutely KNOW. 

Instead of just telling me the answers to my queries, you got coy, basically saying 'Nah, play and find out, if you want to know'.... which bullshit of the highest degree. 

The moment someone tells you 'Just take a sip and see'... you know they are dodgy as fuck. 

You are being a dick. THAT SIMPLE, and you KNOW it. 

I do not know WHY, but do not try to make out as if you have done nothing. I asked for clarity about your game, and you could not even give me a straight answer. STILL wont. 

Yeah, total dick move. 

AWESOME

More about the action, and the dynamics that come from it... when boundaries are crossed... and journey beyond those boundaries? 

That is good. 

Yeah, I guess impatience is way to describe it.. though tbh... it is more just relative experience. I have played a LOT of AVN. For me, the key defining feature, for the AVN, is the A bit. Adult. In the context, Adult in this case means Adult as in Adult Film, or Adult Bookstore... not say, Adult themes (there's tons of game which deal with everything from Murder, Rape, and Torture, through to War, genocide, War Crimes all the way through to acute mental illness, depression, and suicide... and even deal with a myriad of sexual kinks and fetishes along the way.. which are not classed as 'Adult' legally in terms of what that tag actually means.. because there is nothing explicit in them, they deal with those things maturely, but with restraint). 

So having jumped in a far too many AVNs where the Adult bit... the MOST defining feature of the AVN, which separates it from any other genre of game using the VN format... which are  either underdone with the adult content, or backload most of it... under the argument from the Devs that it is a 'Story Rich' AVN and 'Not that kind of game'.... which I reject out of hand for the above reasons; the A bit it is the MOST important feature of the AVN....  I just like to do some due diligence, you know what I mean? 

A premise like this, for me, feels like it would be MUCH more interesting, if it is explored as the hook being the MC crosses those lines, the women in his world do too, at least the ones which society says SHOULD NOT, and then tension is about the fall out....sorta maybe like... idk... say... one is ridden with guilt and engaging her in that way perhaps comes across almost as an exercise in masochism for her, whilst it is still unclear if she actually likes that, one is possessive and insatiable to the point the forbidden which must be kept secret is at risk of being revealed through her jealousy, or another is basically only doing the whole thing because it her way of paying for the attention she gets... almost like some kind of Munchausen By Proxy because of the MC's disability.... something like that. Whilst also all the while the MC might be trying to form more normal, natural, relationships, not only sexual, with the spectre of forbidden constantly making him uncertain of WHAT is a normal relationship, or if he can even form them now.... and even more, juggling the secret of his returning vision even as that becomes the supposed catalyst for ever darker, more depraved dynamics. 

BUT... I have definitely played games with similar themes, or suggested dynamics... where basically the Adult content was not only minimal, and poorly done, but back end loaded, in weak porn dump, after copious amounts of teasing and last second cock blocking... because the Dev thought they were Shakespeare, and wanted everyone to play their amazing story... which was mediocre most of the time... and basically only made good on the promises of the dynamics he or she exploited as narrative hook for their edge lord drama, as doggy treat tokenism for getting through their story, at best, or because they just knew sex sells and tossing in some porn would slip their game in to the Adult niche, removing it from competing with MUCH better VN format games made by actual professional studios, which might drown it out and overshadow it otherwise. 

The worst thing about the latter games most of the time, in my experience, is they do NOT be HONEST about being that kind of BS up front in their listing and marketing... and usually take way more than say, two hours, in the case of Steam... so by the time you realise you have been had... at least in AVN terms.. because the garbage you are playing is a TERRIBLE AVN... even if a good VN for small amateur team or solo dev... it is too late to get my money back. 

Sadly, this means as rude as it seems or I may come across.. I just outright ask now. No offence meant. 

Interesting premise, this one looks promising. I could be down to git it a whirl, but I wanna know straight up...is this all just a tease fest, one of those games about taboo, forbidden desires which backloads the action in the last few chapters of the game, but is mostly all abortive stuff until then? 

That's cool, if it is...just not for me... but if things actually meant to heat up relatively quickly, if lines blur and boundaries break early enough for it become that which is explored... then I could be down. I know it is only like a 20 minute demo, but I will follow and come back to buy it if it is meant to be a game off the latter variety. 

Man that really sucks. Sorry to hear. 

I kinda have a little trauma from the trash on Steam, and dealing with disingenuous devs, so I guess I will just hold my breath hope that one day, enough of your future games are doing well enough for you that this one becomes free like the first one. 

But thanks for your time. 

I think I wont, because of you. 

Word of advice, when someone who is thinking about something you are offering, even if free, asks for some details, just give them the details. You know the answers. This is why they are asking you. 

Being a  complete a-hole about it, is going to bring you unstuck at some point in you life. But because you ARE an a-hole, you wont listen to the advice, and now I have to go through my life knowing I will not get be there when you fubar-ed so hard you cry. I can live with it though. 

Being a dick is not a good look though. 

Not concerned the focus will not be on sex.... but a game about fetishes invariably needs have sex, most of the fetishes I experienced in the game, were absolutely sexual in nature, and I felt it very weird there was almost none, save I think I one very short, softcore scene. So changing that a bit, as you put it, is great to hear. I might come check it out one last time once it is done. 

I mean, that was the whole point of this post. 

To avoid walking in to something I did not like. If I ask a car salesmen about the spec sheet, he does not say 'find out for yourself'...even when he will let me test drive it. If ask for details about that new bench saw I have my eye on, the Hardware store owner does not say 'just get it, use it, you will see for yourself'. 

Feels a bit disingenuous TBH, I might pass this one, if a dev cannot even give me straight answer to a relatively simple question about their game, without being vague and evasive... that implies something about them and the game. 

Well they undid that now. Adult games are available again for sale. It would be great if you put the full game up here again, I'd definitely give it a whirl. Steam is full of bad faith devs, and if I can use paypal here, I would prefer it, and would love to try the game. 

I am not really getting this from the description. 

What does the Church demanding obedience look like? What is the Sin? 

I am sure you think these are critical to the game..... mysteries which you must play to find out... but that synopsis could mean this is an incest focus game...  or a domination focused game... or Sub MC game.... 

...I only play AVNs where all the totalitarianism is coming from my MC, and all domination... and family dynamics... too. 

This sounds like could be something where there's a lot of dirty old robed men, and leather nuns....  but unless my MC ...eradicates those old men, and breaks those leather nuns in to submission in to his totalitarian vision... I do not want to play. 

I just cannot work out what the games about from what is written here. Some folks, multiple, recommended I check this out, but I need to know what it is actually about (one did not get back to me, and another two just said 'trust me bruh, play it'... or as good as when I asked the ppl who pointed me to this). 

So this game is still early development?

Whats the content for this one, so far? I do not really have a way to know what Chapter 5 means? How many chapters are planned? If there is like.. 30 planned... then I can assume this has little content for an AVN, especially the A bit... but if there is 10 planned... then this is half done, and will have a lot of content, right? 

Why is this not available here? 

Is this dead? Its been what, a year? 

Is there any actual SEX in this yet? Played a long time ago, and there was a lot of teasing, but no fucking. Has that been fixed? 

Damn, time to reply from the start then lol, I want Frankie badly. She, the old Sheriffs daughters, and Coach are, along with Mommy/Krissy/Missy Behr my most wanted for ye olde Harem.  I guess I have thing for lithe or athletic women, or even Muscle Mommas (sweet heart with muscle and bald head is on the list too... just not as high up as the aforementioned)..... and since I do not see any options for the Sheriffs gals, or Coach yet.... Frankie it is. 

The scene with Sam looked like it had someone else in it, whereas the scene which I DO have, just has her on Cam alone, with Sasha watching, so I thought they were different scenes. 

Yes, accessing the gallery IN GAME would be awesome, and definitely make it easier for any interactions like that, if they come up again going fowards....  though I think needing medical intervention for acute .....Cumtardedness.... and the Euphoria displayed thereafter upon her return would suggest that Abby would forget how unimpressed she was because she just reminded me :P I love obsessed Abby though... she is great.. she needs keep that energy and that.... need....and those spot quizzes.... up. :p

Yeah, I had to save the game at that very... HOT...  point... and check. Was... jarring...... and definitely broke immersion, you know?  I think if that scene happened AFTER Sasha introduces herself to the class... and then Abby busts in.... and in that time.. SHE was just like 'Oh, are we doing this now? Me next... I am Abby my favourite colour is MC Shelley.... my favourite game is MC Shelley... my favourite food is MC Shelley... oh, and my favourite movie is....X" and THEN the closet scene happens.... no one would need to check the gallery. It would be so close between her reminding the player,. and that scene, it likely would be available to redo as auto save. 

I mean, too late now, I know.... just maybe something which could be a tip for the next chapter...  give an IN GAME reminder of a past thing, right before it matters that you know it....and that will make it smoother, and not need break the immersion it might otherwise so break, if one needs go back to check from a menu or something, you know what I mean? 

Also, my gallery shows two scenes with Frankie and one with Sam missing... and I am not sure I ever saw any options which would trigger those scenes... are those scenes triggered by NOT doing a thing, which leads to something else with they, and thus scenes, rather actively choosing something related to either of them which then leads to those scenes? 

Having zero computing skills, knowing nothing about 3d rendering or animating, coding, or graphic design..... so I cannot even begin to imagine the workload. However perhaps if you knew exactly what is biggest weight you'd most want help with, and looked around this site, or your discord, maybe there's more skilled folk than I, who could at least give you some sage knowledge that made things faster and easier, little hacks if you will, if not outright help you. 

Passion projects are amazing.... until the weight of the project kills the passion, definitely try to not burn out. This is such a great game and such wonderful work so far, it would be better to take a decade to finish, than never finish it at all. 

Ok I loved the update, but honestly, there's just two things which I gotta mention. 

A) Abby's favourite movie? Seriously? I have to go back and play from the beginning if I want to ace the scene? Its been MONTHS, at least half a year.... I love this game and wax lyrical about it as WAY underrated sleeper that every fan of the AVN genre  should DEFINITELY play, but that is a bit harsh tbh. There was NO mutually strong attraction initially when I met Abby... so I really did not feel the need to pay much attention to what she told me, and I am not even sure I am attracted to her... or just her tests.. which are kinda awesome.  Being expected to recall that, MONTHS later, without any way of finding it out, to get the best outcome on what is one of the hotter scenes in the game so far, is a rare miss for this game, pretty bad tbh. 

B)... As adorable as Emma is, and she IS.... those hips man, I personally wish she looked like Abby waist down... much more proportional..... every time I look at her, all I see is a Russian Nesting Doll...   which, I mean, that might have been hilarious if she was Russian, but she's French :p I mean I know she is tiny and one might wish to avoid her being seen as a Loli dolly... but every time I see her, I expect to open her up and find another, smaller Emma inside... and another smaller one inside that. 

WOW, I can't wait... awesome to see it out.

A lot of exposition in this one... but still nice to get the celebration out the way, and meeting all the key people, get some backstory dealt with. 

Kinda hope to get some more steps in the Harem building done next time around though :P

Hehehe.... well obviously I have played Pale Carnations.... we are in that games comments.....  I have played all the rest of your suggestions too except House Of Shinobi, which reminded me of something... one more suggestion A House In The RIft... one of the all time greats of the genra, and definitely worth a play. 

I will check House of Shinobi, thanks. 

Edit: Ok, turns out I have seen House Of Shinobi.... it is 2D and HTML which is why I ignored it, I am a 3D Ren'Py huy all the way (though Unity is not the worst, even though many think it is.... also, there is one 2D exception I adore, Flowers, right here on itch, check it out too), but thanks for the suggestion. 

Great to hear some news. This was one game I was seriously hoping was NOT dead. 

It feels like this will need to be something rather epic in scale, to meet thy vision's scope... so I for one, playing on a decent gaming rig, do not care so much about the size elements. It might sound very inconsiderate of mobile device players, but for me, I think this game taking the time it needs, being as long as it needs, and being as beautiful as it can be whilst being so, is the best justice which can be done to a project to pregnant with potential, and off to such an amazing quality start. 

Burn out though, when facing something like this, is a real thing . I reckon the smaller more frequent update approach is definitely a decent way to handle things moving forwards. A  few years... I say a few.. how about five... ago I began writing a book. I say book, but this... is more of an... epic rant of massive scale, like.. a book that would be sold by starting letters in batches if it was an encyclopedia or dictionary... I went HARD. Almost 400,000 words, and 800 pages non stop. But then, the wall. BANG... burnt the F out hard. In the first two years I wrote 80% of what I have so far (and it is still only about a third done)...  the next two, I wrote only about 15%... and this last year-ish.. I have put out about 5% of the work. 

Looking back, now, as someone with some experience, if I was to mention anything to the me just starting, it would be less is more. If I had aimed to work maybe a few hours a week, since I actually technically cannot work on the project full time...and tried to perhaps do little pieces, chapters in smaller batches, at the time.... I'd not be JUST coming out basically over a year of writers block and fatigue. It is BY FAR the best way to go methinks. 

From a gamer's perspective, me the hard core, day 0, first gen gamer of over 45 years gaming experience, that is not ideal... because selfishly, since I think this game so amazing, I want huge amounts of content, I want it to be as epic in size scope and scale as it feels like it need be to match the vision you seem to have laid the ground work for... but that said, even then, I suspect the game will even be fully completed faster the smaller more consistent updates released too. 

Thanks for the update on this amazing game, I cannot wait for the next part to finally arrive, though for now I am just so glad this project is not dead. 

Been a while since I played this.... are all the sexually accessible women still only the thicc shorties? Or are the way hotter, taller, thinner, sexier women, like the Federal Agent, and the Reporter and the Bi Cafe owner now available? 

This felt like a Thicc Shorty Simulator when I played it... the hottest women in the game were inaccessible.... except the Bosses daughter... but she went and got...  delicate.... and the Photographer blonde... who gives you some honey then says never again. 

All the other actually attractive women were inaccessible, but it HAS been a long time since I played so was wondering if that has changed? 

To this? Narratively speaking there are not many workplace drama type games I can endorse.... but if you simply mean Adult games with immersive narratives, and generous adult content that is well made, with hot scenes that blocked, paced, lit, angled, phased and supported by a decent use of perspective and ambience then I can recommend a few. 

In terms of narrative, they are nothing like this one, but two of the best games in the genre, are right here on itch

Eternum, and Ripples. Both are incomplete, on going games... but both are 11 out 10. six out of five stars...  must play games, if you have not played them. 

There's also some sleepers here on itch too, again, none like this one, narratively speaking...but I would strongly  recommend games like Isekai Paradise, Thirsty For My Guest and Love By The Water too. Trying to think what other games I have given 5 stars to....   I think Project Atmosphere... only let down by the absence of a Gallery...  one of the most visually beautiful games on here, but it DOES have a sandbox element. There's something like Hard To Love on here too.. it is VERY early doors, with little Adult content at present.. but one of the most beautiful AVNs there is, certainly in terms of the Love Interests, and what adult content there is , is HOT AF.  Also there's by Justice or Mercy, which is a bit more standard AVN... but has some incredible dynamics and great story. 

Some games which are NOT on itch, or might be but I have not seen, but do not seem to be on Steam either... but you should be able to find with a quick search.... are Away From Home, Strong Desires, Photo Hunt (a bit of a grindy Sandbox with this one, but VERY worth it) just to name a few. 

Now if you are willing to get them from Steam, I would offer up LISC, Race Of Life, Desert Stalker, Lust Theory 1 and 2, Time Stamps 1 and 2, Milfs of Sunville.. but only SE1, SE2 is garbage......  and possibly the BEST free game on Steam.. Come Home. Also, for me, probably one of the best on Steam, again, is bit visually and aesthetically dated now, is Stranded In Space, that one is a must have. 

Check some of them out, and if you get through those ever want more suggestions, feel free to ask. 

Well the guy above me said it is now chapter 4.6 on Patreon... which normally means, with other games, we get updates here as to that being the case, and most of the time, a timeline for public release too. 

I will check out the link you provided, but unless the information is PUBLIC it wont be much use, but I thank you nevertheless.