Nathan Lane on Being Gay
"There's not a day in my life I'm not proud of being gay but I just wasn't ready for that attention to be placed on it. I remember being on Oprah. Well, not on Oprah. Near Oprah. She started saying, 'Now, Nathan, you got all those girlie moves going down in The Birdcage, where's all that coming from? You're so good at all that girlie stuff!'"
[On being gay] "From the time I told my mother, I've been living openly. But really, I was born in 1956. I'm one of those old-fashioned homosexuals, not one of the newfangled ones who are born joining parades. My family referred to them as "fags", and that was it."
[Coming "Out" following the death of Matthew Shepard] "It was like somebody slapped me awake. At this point it's selfish not to do whatever you can... If I do this story and say I'm a gay person, it might make it easier for somebody else."
"I told my mother I was gay, and she’ s...and she...and then her face went white, and then she said, 'I would rather you were dead'. And I said, 'I knew you'd understand'. And then once I got her head out of the oven, everything was fine. She came from a generation where, yes, of course, she would have preferred if I was straight and had gotten married, but she, uh, you know, she was very accepting. What she enjoyed most is when I was in a musical. She would always say, um, 'I'm not saying this because I'm your mother; I'm saying it because it's true: you were the best one'" [To James Lipton on "Inside the Actors Studio" (1994)].
Response to Gay Marriage and the Gay Rights Ordeal
I love Nathan Lane!
I think that if my child ever turned out to be homosexual I would definitely be very liberal about it. Who honestly cares? If it is in their nature, let them be who they feel they are. Just because he's homosexual, doesn't mean he's not your child anymore. He's still the same guy, right? I have no personal problem with homosexuals, or Gay marriage. People should accept it. Haven't we learned anything from the Gay Rights Movement and Harvey Milk???
Now as for Homosexual Marriage, (gay does not mean homosexual, it means ''happy''- people just use it in the wrong context), well no one can stop them from marrying. Do some people support it? No, but they
can't not stop them. If they want to marry, just let them. Homosexuality isn't a sin.
One person who was a Christian said they believed Lots of Christians give Real Christians a Bad Name. That is true. We judge all Christians by one Christian act or belief on homosexuals. There are some Christians who accept it and some who don't. Why don't we Protest on Murder, or Protest on Lyers, or Protest on Adulterers? There are other sins to protest. Why do we protest homosexuality if it can't be helped? This Christian said ''Homosexulaity isn't necessarily an 'evil sin'. There's good sin and bad sin, and homosexuality is one of the 'good sins'.'' Well, I don't believe Homosexulaity is a sin at all, but at least this Christian wasn't shedding negative light on homosexuals in general.
Some guy on YouTube commented, ''Yes Homosexuality is a Sin, but Also Man having sex with Women out of marriage is a Sin too. The bible says all sin is equal. So that means having sex with a woman out of Marriage is like committing homosexuality in God's eyes. I'm not bashing on Homosexuals, all I'm saying is that if we protest on homosexauls why can't we protest Sex out of marriage between a man and women? IN Gods eyes sex is between two "Married" man and woman. why can't we protest on Lying?''
This guy has a point. And he even referenced The Ten Commandments. Give the good boy a cookie! And he's not bashing homosexuals! Way to go! He backed up his argument!
Someone else said, ''As Christians, we should know better, Sin is Sin. Adulterers, Fornicators, Sexual Immorality, Bullying, Pimping, Players, Vanity, Murder, Lying, Blasphemy, Homosexuality, Bisexuality, Beastiality, Pedophiles, Necrophilia, Cheaters, Thieves, Abortionist, False witnessing, Breast & butt implants, Face lift, Immoral drugs, Drunkards, Violence, Child beater, Wife beater, Husband beater, Idolatry, Negativity, Drug Dealer, Gangsters, Feminist, Hating others, .etc.
why not protest on all of these??''
(Well, isn't some of the list above (Bisexuality, Abortionists), the same as protesting Homosexulaity? And this is a really controversial topic!)
He/she continues, ''All the sins I listed are affecting the people world wide, homosexuality isn't the only thing affecting people now a days. So if we get rid of homosexuality out of USA, that's not going to make the world a better place because once homosexuality is banned, We still have to worry about our kids being affected by the media saying they should have sex out of marriage, they should take drugs to be cool, bullying people makes you cool, rob people or become a barbie/ken doll to be beautiful.''
Despite my defensive thoughts on getting rid of homosexulaity, which I think is as crazy and utterly absurd as banning ''Straight Marriage''- the guy has a point. It won't do any good. There are worse things than people's sexual nature. Who are we to say people aren't born gay? Because of something you read in a fucking book?????? Fucking hell, just let the gay people get married, who fucking cares? Really, what's the big fucking deal??? This issue is a waste of human energy to debate, there are so many more important things out there to worry about that two fruits gettin' hitched. You fucking retarded monkeys... sorry. Excuse my language. I'm really talking to myslef. But this whole ''banning gay marriage'' thing really pisses me off!
It even sickens me, that we live in the so-called ''Land of the Free'' and people are not treated equally... first it was slavery, then it was the Women's Rights Movememnt on sufferage, then the Civil Rights Movement and now gay and lesbians... what next? Blonde hair? green eyes, humans love to hate people for something they cannot change. Why? Why? I cry out the question asking God why we do this to one another. Why is the sun hidden behind the clouds, and though we still see its light we are only colder because of it? Why dim itself to make us yearn for its warmth this way? Man's cruel fist seems bigger than its light, but if he lowers his hand, we see it's even smaller than the pebble it holds compared to that shrouded sun. What a feeble gesture, still it parts us. Denies us love. Why? Why? Is there anything called morally right? When everything becomes legal then there's nothing wrong with living then because lets get this: prescription drugs are killing people more now more than ever than people doing crack, cocaine, etc. but you don't see police getting warrants for pharmaceutical companies. People now have a careers in pornography and you can put it on dvds or on tv stations,but if you are homosexual, people want to murder you and bann your rights? If straight people can marry, why not gay people? What harm can happen...?
People nowadays and Elizabeth Hasselbeck on the View only parrot the conservative Republican talking points. They have no fresh ideas of their own. They only say gay marriage is wrong because they're literally brainwashed by close-minded conservative Republicans. People have to learn to be their own master- and make opinions based on their own judgement- not the general public view.
I don't get why it is that Christians feel the need to force Christian based laws on non-Christians? How is than any better than Musilims that want Sharia law? Everyone should have the choice to do what they want. I feel the same with abortion rights.
Whoopie Goldberg mentions that why should people who don't support it have any problem? How does gay marriage affect your marriage? It makes a good point that people who don't suport gay marriage are opposing something that would not affect them in any way.
Someone else said, ''Gay marriage is normal. It is in ancient Greece and should be legalized. My rights are being taken away for gay marriage not being legalize. As a lesbian I say vote no on Prop 8.''
She's right gay marriage was accepted in ancient Greece.
Would it concern you to know that many animals have been shown to partake in gay relationships? You need to stop worrying about people being gay and start worrying about people who have brains but choose not to use them. With a more tech savy world being offered to all of us by way of the internet, please don't limit your ideas to what you already know. Expand your horizons and see that the world can be better, but only if you want it to. Hate is NOT okay. NEVER. Under any circumstances. IT DOES NOT AFFECT YOU, and nobody is asking you to stand for it. Being closed minded will get you nowhere, and being hateful will get you nowhere. Do you have any idea how many people are assulted, tortured, and murdered, JUST for being gay?
Take a look back into history (which I know is hard for you libs, because it includes facts)... Was there any gays back 5000, 2000, or even 500 years ago? Well, there's no definite records, but why should it be any different back then? People didn't record statisitcs like that back then, but there's no doubt in my mind that it happened then and still continues to happen today. The Old Testament clearly states Jesus loves everyone. Gay or not Gay. Two of Jesus's apostles were Gay. Bet you Christians didn't know that, right? Homosexuality goes back as early as ancient greece. Look it up at Wikipedia.
HOW does it affect you. If you are opposed to homosexuality, dont be a homosexual. Hating anybody, especially in this case gay people, is NOT okay. HATE is not okay. Accepting that there are other types of people with different views IS the right thing to do. HOW are gay people wrong? WHAT is wrong with loving people? Regardless of their gender? NOTHING.
Elizabeth on the View said, ''It affects me because it is disgusting and I for one will not stand for it. Hate IS ok when it is directed toward people who ask for it. Being gay is wrong because it just is-- there's no other word for it, it's like saying "why is rape wrong". There is something VERY wrong with loving people who are the same sex as you, it's just disgusting and awful that the world we live in is beginning to accept it.
The circumstances of gay people and African Americans are two very different situations. African Americans were born black, and they were persecuted for no reason, even by there own government they were killed, lynched, beaten, had no civil rights, etc... Gays weren't born gay, they CHOSE to be fags, and they aren't persecuted against by the government.''
Well, homosexulaity has shown to be not a genetic defect, it's a choice. It's not a disease. But they also cannot help who they are attracted to. And yes, we cannot choose our race or color, but I suppose we can choose our sexual preferences. Now, I am in two minds about this. Do Gays choose to be Gay or is it just natural? I believe it is the latter. It is as natural as being straight. But again, gays do not affect you. Just let them be!
So why cant gay people get married? Its not like anything changes between them, except for the title of their relationship. I completely concur. And yet, does sufferage have anything to do with the Gay Rights Ordeal?Suffrage means, according to Webster's, the right to vote in political elections. So, yes, we return to sufferage. We have the choice to vote for ban on gay marraige or supporting Prop. 8. You can't vote civil rights away, regardless of a consensus. It's a bit of a fundamental protection of irrevocable freedoms that are implicitly granted as a birthright. Gay Rights is Civil Rights. Intelligence and cogent reasoning appear to be vacant in some individuals.
Can someone please tell me what's the big deal about two people of the same sex getting married ?
A lesbian girl said on YouTube, ''I'm a lesbian, and I am 14 years old. I dream of a big lovely marriage and adopting children just like a straight person, I was born this way and nothing can change me, I want t be equal, should it be right to deny me the right to be happy and descriminiate against me and hate me just because im not the same as you?''
You said it, honey! I support gay marriage. But I am saying that if you are straight, then you are not gay, and you aren't affected by gay people getting married. Its as simple as this. As American citizens, we should have a right to decide to marry whoever we want whether it be man or female. I mean, its as simple as Whoopi said. ''If you do not like gay marriages then don't marry a gay. End of the problem. However, people should still have the right to decide if they wanted to get married or should not be restrained to do so.''
Then what about atheists? Should there be a law prohibitng atheists from marrying because they don't believe in god? Absolutely not, and this shouldn't be a religious debate!!! Banning gay marraige is just like prohibiting atheists from getting married.
Back to Nathan Lane:
''I get sick of listening to straight people complain about, "Well, hey, we don't have a heterosexual-pride day, why do you need a gay-pride day?" I remember when I was a kid I'd always ask my mom: "Why don't we have a Kid's Day? We have a Mother's Day and a Father's Day, but why don't we have a Kid's Day?" My mom would always say, "Every day is Kid's Day." To all those heterosexuals that bitch about gay pride, I say the same thing: Every day is heterosexual-pride day! Can't you people enjoy your banquet and not piss on those of us enjoying our crumbs over here in the corner? If Michelangelo had been straight, the Sistine Chapel would have been wallpapered. Let's get one thing straight, people. I'm not.''
Yes, Nathan, we get you. Everybody's journey is individual. If you fall in love with a boy, you fall in love with a boy. The fact that many Americans consider it a disease says more about them than it does about homosexuality.
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