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What is the end result of AmazonFail? A search of news articles suggests that it has kinda blown over with the mainstream news outlets buying into "whoops, unintentional error", a few blogs that are all about hating anything corporate still believing it was an act of suppression, and not a whole lot if followup from the anyone else.
Though I haven't purchased anything from them since, I haven't gotten around to findhing a better wishlisting tool, either. While Powell's is good for mail-order books (though I can not be lazy and go to a local place*), Amazon also has stuff that I can't cheaply find in local independent stores. So, should I ever be sufficiently solvent to indulge in thinks like sexy silicon bakeware or artsy bundt pans... where does the liberal internet community stand on Amazon at the moment?
*In the last two months: Green Apple, Logos, Bookshop Santa Cruz, Dark Carnival, DeLauers... I really have to finish what I have before I think about procuring more (heh, well, cookbooks don't count, right?).
Though I haven't purchased anything from them since, I haven't gotten around to findhing a better wishlisting tool, either. While Powell's is good for mail-order books (though I can not be lazy and go to a local place*), Amazon also has stuff that I can't cheaply find in local independent stores. So, should I ever be sufficiently solvent to indulge in thinks like sexy silicon bakeware or artsy bundt pans... where does the liberal internet community stand on Amazon at the moment?
*In the last two months: Green Apple, Logos, Bookshop Santa Cruz, Dark Carnival, DeLauers... I really have to finish what I have before I think about procuring more (heh, well, cookbooks don't count, right?).
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I mean, I don't use amazon so no loss to me either way; but boycotting them over something that was an external troll shouldn't be your motivation. Unless you think they shouldn't be susceptible to such things. Which is totally different.
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While I am not thrilled if they are susceptible to such things, I am less thrilled that they are incompetent in terms of figuring out how to manage 'adult' content. However both of those are secondary to a cost effective way to acquire $good that I can't easily achieve through independent or local sources.
If it was a fucked up version of censorship that was being implemented on a corporate level rather than one or two internal folks implementing their own agendas (poorly), that trumps my laziness.
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And even if true, the troll still stands as the person you linked to said "The really interesting thing about the troll is that he's right even if he didn't do it."
*shrug* ymmv, like I said I don't use amazon. Even if I did, that whole shitstorm raised their eyebrows enough to take notice and reverse whatever it was that happened. People who wish to continue to boycott them aren't really doing anyone any good, negative reinforcement for rectifying mistakes? Really?
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Wait, what? You're effectively saying, "We can't prove that the refutations/debunkings are true". Well, if that's your standard of evidence, then let's turn it around and apply it to
We can't prove that Weev's claims are true, can we? So why believe them over
Of course, we can prove (or rather, Weev himself claims) that he's a troll. So why should we give his statements any credence whatsoever? When someone steps up and says, "I like to game social systems," I see no reason to consider anything he says to be anything other than completely unreliable.
"You can't prove that it's false" is a piss-poor argument. I see no reason to waste my time with it.
And that's without even getting into the whole "this stuff was going on way back in February" thing. Funny how that point, which is really interesting, seems to keep getting dropped by the wayside.
So, does Weev, or anyone else, claim that they were gaming Amazon all the way back in February?
[Edit: typo fixes.]
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(I'm generally a fan and good customer of Amazon (to the degree of being an Amazon Prime subscriber and Amazon Visa user), though I basically don't buy books there.)
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for comparison, I started looking up sales ranks/ no sales ranks
for the most tasteless, absurd, 'immature shock value' based
heterosexually oriented erotica-subgenre that I considered amazon-sellable:
tentacle rape anime.
for what its worth, the dvd box set for "urotsukidoji: legend of the overfiend" still has its sales rank.
unless amazon was purchased by 4chan recently, one would think that content overseers would surely consider a lot of those de-ranked gay/lesbian eroticas to be less objectionable or exclusionworthy than hentai.
one would think......