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Dutch proof of Date of Birth

Hello, I wrote and maintained the page for dutch actress Vivian Panka, and was wondering if there is a way to access the birth registry/announcement of the Netherlands to use as proof of birthday (as can be done for UK people), or is that not possible? Thank you! Artemis-red97 (talk) 11:54, 28 April 2026 (UTC)

I had never heard of this person, and I could find almost no information about her on Dutch websites. It seems that, however she might have been born in the Netherlands, she only became known abroad. So unfortunately I cannot give you any information about her birth date. Erik Wannee (talk) 10:19, 10 May 2026 (UTC)

Bernard Sutholt

If there are any Dutch readers who could help translate the historical entries here for this obscure jurist, I would be grateful. AleatoryPonderings (talk) 14:28, 3 May 2026 (UTC)

@AleatoryPonderings: The Dutch language in the texts is pretty ancient, and it was not easy to translate it into English. I asked an AI program to make fluent English of it, and then I checked it for correctness. I hope everything (text below) is correct. Erik Wannee (talk) 18:41, 19 July 2026 (UTC)

by van Kuyk in Nieuw Nederlands Biografisch Woordenboek (NNBW)

SUTHOLT (Bernhard), or Southoult, was born at Hamm in Westphalia. He enrolled as a student at the University of Groningen on 13 March 1615, being the first student entered in the Album Academicum. After attending lectures there for some time, he visited several German universities to complete his studies and matriculated at the University of Heidelberg on 28 July 1619. There he met the States General's envoy, Van Brederode, who recommended him to the curators of the University of Leiden.

Sutholt subsequently moved to Leiden, where he found devoted patrons in Petrus Cunaeus and Everard Bronchorst. At his own request, he was granted permission in August 1620 to deliver a series of public lectures on jurisprudence during the university vacation. In consultation with the professors, he chose as his subject the pandects title 'De origine juris'. With the approval of the senate, he continued these lectures after the vacation had ended.

In June 1621 the university senate refused his request to preside over academic disputations, although a German student wished to defend a dissertation under his supervision. Although Bronchorst was favourably disposed towards him and recommended him to the curators, Sutholt failed to obtain the professorship at Leiden that he so greatly desired.

He enjoyed greater success, through the support of Cunaeus, at the University of Harderwijk. Appointed professor there in 1622, he assumed office on 6 June of that year with the inaugural oration 'De Ratione Interpretandi Juris, et Philosophiae Activae cum Juris Studio Conjunctione' (Harderwijk, 1622). This address was followed by lectures in which he established his reputation as a legal philosopher. The dissertations defended under his supervision on the Institutes, published under the title 'Dissertationes XXI, quibus universum jus Institutionum ex principiis explicatur, ea brevitate, ut instar compendii, ea item perspicuitate, ut in locis obscurioribus vice commentarii esse possint' (Harderwijk, 1623), were reprinted several times.

Although he had been brought up in the reformed faith, Sutholt converted to Roman Catholicism in 1625. His conversion caused considerable controversy and led to his resignation from his professorship. The many uncertainties surrounding this change of faith were addressed by Sutholt himself in his 'Caussae conjectio, cur ejurata haeresi Calviniani fidem Romano-Catholicam nuper sit amplexus' (Cologne, 1625).

He subsequently entered the service of Count Palatine Wolfgang Wilhelm of Neuburg and became a member of the government council (Regierungsrat) at Düsseldorf. He declined a request from the Archbishop of Salzburg to become Professor of the Pandects. Shortly thereafter he died.

The preserved correspondence between him and Cunaeus shows us that the latter one appreciated his capabilities highly. A dissertation of his hand de Jurisdictione was published in 1624.

See: P. Cunaei Epistolae, ed. Burman, (1725) no. 137-141; Bouman, Geldersche Hoogesch. I, 51-55 (who mentions the soon reversed permission to teach in Leiden); Diarium Ev. Bronchorstii 157, 160, 161, 168; Toepke, Matrikel der Univ. Heidelberg II, 296.

in Van der Aa e.a., Biographisch Woordenboek der Nederlanden (Van der Aa)

SUTHOLT (Bernard) was born at Hamm in Westphalia and was brought up in the Reformed faith. He studied first at the University of Groningen, then at Helmstedt, and finally at Heidelberg. Through the influence of Lord Van Brederode, who, as envoy of the Dutch Republic to various German courts, frequently resided in that university town, Sutholt was recommended to the curators of the University of Leiden. They granted him permission to deliver public lectures on jurisprudence, and for that purpose he arrived at the renowned university in the middle of the summer of 1620. This permission, however, was soon revoked, although the reason is unknown.

Meanwhile, he had gained a new and devoted patron in Petrus Cunaeus, who made several attempts to secure for him a chair in law at the University of Leiden. His efforts met with greater success at the University of Harderwijk. There, after Sutholt had spent almost two years in Leiden, he was appointed, through Cunaeus's recommendation, Professor of Civil Law and Practical Philosophy early in 1622. He took up his office on 6 June of that year with the inaugural oration 'De Ratione Interpretandi Juris, et Philosophiae Activae cum Juris Studio Conjunctione' (Harderwijk, 1622, octavo).

In the following year he published 'Dissertationes Undeviginti, quibus universum jus Institutionum ex principiis explicatur, ea brevitate, ut instar compendii, ea item perspicuitate, ut in locis obscurioribus vice commentarii esse possent' (Harderwijk, 1623).

After being suspended in 1623 because of his growing inclination towards the Roman Catholic Church, Sutholt resigned his professorship in April 1625 and was formally received into the Roman Catholic Church at Cologne. Through the mediation of the clergy of Cologne, the Archbishop of Salzburg offered him a lucrative professorship as a reward for his conversion. He declined the appointment, however, and instead entered the service of Count Palatine Wolfgang Wilhelm of Neuburg, who, like Sutholt himself, had renounced the Protestant faith. Wolfgang Wilhelm appointed him Regierungsrat (government councillor) at Düsseldorf, where, according to contemporary accounts, he experienced a premature repentance and died in the prime of his life.

Independent review requested: Bart C. J. M. Fauser

Hello. I am requesting an independent review of a draft article about Bart C. J. M. Fauser, a Dutch reproductive endocrinologist and Professor Emeritus at Utrecht University.

COI disclosure: I am the subject of this article and am disclosing my conflict of interest in full accordance with [[Wikipedia:Conflict of interest]]. I have not moved the article to mainspace myself.

Why this subject is relevant to WikiProject Netherlands:

• Dutch national, born 1954
• Career based primarily at Erasmus University Medical Center

(Rotterdam) and University Medical Center Utrecht

• Appointed Knight in the Order of the Netherlands Lion in 2017
• Former member of ZonMW (Dutch national medical research council) board
• Former chair of the Dutch government commission on preimplantation

genetic diagnosis

Draft location: User:Bart C. J. M. Fauser/sandbox

Any review, copyediting, or move to mainspace by an independent editor would be very welcome. Thank you. Bart C. J. M. Fauser (talk) 04:30, 9 May 2026 (UTC)

@Bart C. J. M. Fauser: Please don't waste our time with LLM-generated drafts (based on what I assume is a hallucinated second reference) and LLM-generated talk page messages. Even setting those aside, the draft and your message above does not show how it meets our notability guideline for academics. Ed ^{[talk] [OMT]} 04:56, 9 May 2026 (UTC)

Replacing Pieter Cort van der Linden with Abraham Kuyper as vital article

Please join the discussion on Wikipedia talk:Vital articles/Level 5/People/Authorities and leadership figures about a swap Dajasj (talk) 06:52, 30 May 2026 (UTC)

Also for William II of the Netherlands and Johan Rudolph Thorbecke Dajasj (talk) 10:44, 30 May 2026 (UTC)

Dutch Wiki Page for Jurriaan Bakker

Hello: I was contacted by Jurriaan about getting an English Wikipedia page. However, he has a lot of Dutch press coverage dating back to the 90s. I suggested a Dutch page would be a good idea, but I don't know where to direct him for assistance and questions. Does anyone here have a suggestion on where to send him to inquire about this? Thanks so much! LeepKendall (talk) 01:01, 12 June 2026 (UTC)

AFC: Nederlands_Douane_Orkest_(Dutch_Customs_Orchestra)

Hello, after a decline of the article on the quality of the references I have done a thorough research and edited it according to the requirements as far as I understand. Could someone have a look at it and give me some feedback? That would be highly appreciated! Kind regards, K-filter

Draft:Nederlands Douane Orkest (Dutch Customs Orchestra) K-filter (talk) 12:41, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

COI disclosure: I am a member of this orchestra and am disclosing my possible conflict of interest in full accordance with Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. I am not getting paid for writing the article, nor does my employer even know that I do that. K-filter (talk) 12:49, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

Pronunciation of Femke Broeders-Bol

Since her marriage in February 2026, Dutch track and field athlete Femke Bol and the media have been using her married name Femke Broeders-Bol, so the Wikipedia article was adjusted accordingly. The pronunciation recording of just Femke Bol is no longer sufficient, so I've changed it into Femke / Broeders / Bol, but I would rather add one recording for the pronunciation of her whole name (at the same volume). Is there Dutch speaker here who wants to record it? – Editør (talk) 20:45, 19 June 2026 (UTC)

I generated an AI file that is pretty correct:

pronunciation of 'Femke Broeders-Bol'

Erik Wannee (talk) 10:36, 12 July 2026 (UTC)

I appreciate the effort, but I cannot find an exception for pronunciation files on Wikipedia:Artificial intelligence so I assume this is not allowed on Wikipedia. Besides, I think that the information on Wikimedia Commons is misleading and the text should make it (even more) clear that this is not your own voice recording, but an AI-generated file created by an online service. I could not find clear copyright or licensing information on the service's website. As Femke Broeders-Bol is a good article, this requires accurate information for media files per WP:GACR6. – Editør (talk) 13:43, 12 July 2026 (UTC)

First, as a native Dutch speaker, I can assure you that the pronunciation is very correct.

Second: on this page you can read: "Because you own your content and information, and we only have non-exclusive rights, you can choose to make it available to others, including under the terms of a Creative Commons license." I would think that that is enough for legal use in Commons. Erik Wannee (talk) 18:12, 12 July 2026 (UTC)

I don't think it matters whether people think the audio sounds like the pronunciation of Dutch native speaker when the use of AI-generated media is prohibited on Wikipedia.

The section Rights and Limits specifies "content and information" as "that you submit to the services", so your quote seems to deal primarily with the user's input, but not with the service's output. – Editør (talk) 18:55, 12 July 2026 (UTC)

Ok then, that's not my problem. But meanwhile you know how her name is pronunciated. Erik Wannee (talk) 15:46, 19 July 2026 (UTC)

Miffy

Not only do the sentences use inconsistent British and American spellings, it also needs more citations. I’ve made a to-do list and nominated this article for improvement. 2600 etc (talk) 05:40, 11 July 2026 (UTC)