Hoary

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Where do I find the appropriate discussion page?

My section https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Teahouse#skip-to-bottom-anchor appears to have been archived. It says in the notice saying it was archived that advice has already been given. It says to make any further discussions on the appropriate discussion page. I'm all confused what they mean. People need to be able to break in and compete. Sometimes, they will have a highly successful strategy. They might get things working for now with it. But tomorrow is a mystery. Somebody might need to be able to break in and compete again. If something is archived, how are they supposed to do so? Blackbombchu (talk) 00:11, 16 April 2026 (UTC)

You're asking about this, which you started with Not one of the rest of us hasn't done all those complicated and advanced plans I can't follow giving me no part to play and starting to accumulate power. Those who know how to organzie it have something to look forward to 1000 years in advance and never give up and want to do their small part that looks at what's been getting attacked and guards it and not how we got there. This is only partly comprehensible. Your entire comment doesn't specify a single page of Wikipedia. Please interpret "Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page" as shorthand for "Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page, if any". No Wikipedia discussion page would be appropriate. -- Hoary (talk) 00:52, 16 April 2026 (UTC)

I finally sort of see it. Blackbombchu (talk) 01:11, 16 April 2026 (UTC)

Greetings

You suddently flashed onto my watchlist. How are you? I don't think we've typed to each other for years. Tony (talk) 22:57, 24 April 2026 (UTC)

PM sent, Tony! -- Hoary (talk) 04:04, 25 April 2026 (UTC)

Draft:Francesco Chiacchio

Hi, I saw the rejected request on Francesco Chiacchio's draft page, I think he is encyclopedic as he has worked for La Repubblica, Internazionale and the New York Times, and is already present on the wiki in 5 languages. ~2026-26149-33 (talk) 21:43, 29 April 2026 (UTC)

I did not reject Draft:Francesco Chiacchio. I declined it. (And for this reason you have been able to submit it a second time.)

In order for there to be an article about Chiacchio, he must be notable as defined by and for Wikipedia. (Let's call this "notable-WP".) In order to be notable-WP, he must meet either the general notability guideline or notability (people). (Let's call these "GNG" and "N(P)" respectively.) In order to meet N(P), he must meet either the "basic criteria" (which is just GNG for people) or (as he is an illustrator/cartoonist) "additional criteria" for "creative professionals". (Let's call these "N(P)BC" and "N(P)CP" respectively.)

This is simpler than it looks. There are just two paths for an illustrator/cartoonist to be demonstrably notable-WP: There's GNG (also called N(P)BC), and there's N(P)CP.

Perhaps Chiacchio is notable. But the draft has to demonstrate this. In my view, the draft fails to demonstrate either GNG (= N(P)BC) or N(P)CP.

I hope that this has clarified what you have to do to the draft. You have already resubmitted it, but I don't intend to review it a second time (although I might comment on it). -- Hoary (talk) 23:13, 29 April 2026 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Precious

Seven years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:08, 30 April 2026 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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Request for independent review of an Afc-approved article

Hello, I was wondering if you could take a look at the article I created. Igbo regalia and headdresses Someone is claiming it's all original research particularly the paragraph on headdress (Ichafu...) and practically reverting my edits and removing some of the Images despite revising the article to conform to his request. Please look at the article and help resolve the issue. Also check the edit diffs for my last edits before it was reverted to it's current form with non-verifiable information and the talk page Talk:Igbo regalia and headdresses where I've explained my sources. Thanks. Dreune (talk) 17:27, 27 June 2026 (UTC)

Thank you for the invitation, Dreune. I looked quickly at the article. I didn't get the impression that editing it would require any unusual skills, but it is about a subject of which I know nothing, so I'd have to be particularly careful if editing it or commenting on it. I then looked at its talk page. This has a dismayingly large quantity of (polite) argy-bargy and I suppose I'd have to read and digest that before adding to it.

Portions of it jumped out at me. Here's one:

The next source is Style and Substance: Why What We Wear Matters, edited by Gay Garnett, a book on fashion. In the chapter “Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie on Making the Right Impression,”

“As a child, I loved watching my mother get dressed for Mass. She folded and twisted and pinned her ichafu until it sat on her head like a large flower. She wrapped her George—heavy beaded cloth, alive with embroidery, always in bright shades of red or purple or pink—around her waist in two layers. The first, the longer piece, hit her ankles, and the second formed an elegant tier just below her knees. Her sequined blouse caught the light and glittered. Her shoes and handbag always matched.”

I used this source for the following content:

“Ichafu (also recorded as Ichafo and Icafo in historical sources) is a traditional Igbo women’s headdress fashioned from a fabric folded, twisted, and pinned into elaborate shapes until it sits on the head like a large flower.”

But the source doesn't mention ⟨ichafo⟩ or ⟨icafo⟩. It says neither that the ichafu is Igbo nor that it's traditional. It doesn't make it clear whether ichafu only describes the result of folding, twisting, etc; or whether the word also covers the (more or less) flat textile even when this isn't folded, twisted into shape. (Cf the Japanese term Sankakukin, which encompasses a square cloth folded once, corner to opposite corner, to make a triangle, as well as a headscarf [or bandage] made from this triangle.) The child doesn't distinguish between conventional and unconventional -- between what women normally do, and what they can do if they feel like it.

You cite more source for the same description; but among them, there's still no mention of Igbo. (Only "Nigeria(n)".)

Some way below, you do say that The 1923 CMS dictionary documents ichafu as an Igbo term for a headdress. Hathitrust doesn't make this century-old dictionary available to me (or perhaps to anyone outside the US). Perhaps a better resource would be page 107 of the newly (2025) revised Igbo dictionary here, which says that ⟨ị̀chàfù ̣⟩ means "head-tie; handkerchief".

Thus you could say that ichafu is an Igbo term, citing the dictionary. Then provide a fuller (but not fanciful) description, based on and citing Melie. Then provide extra bits (if there are any that merit addition), based on and citing Adichie/Garnett. Then likewise for Butticci. If X is attributed to source A, Y to source B, and Z to source C, this will be easier for another editor to verify than if the sum of X, Y, and Z are together attributed to A, B, and C. -- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 06:15, 28 June 2026 (UTC)

Hi Hoary, thank you so much for taking out time to review the article. I've been able to get accessible platforms for the sources. These are the sources:

[https://archive.org/details/dictionary-of-ibo-language-english-ibo-cms-1923 Head-dress: Ichafu - isi]. Page 72

[https://archive.org/details/englishibofrench00holy/page/291/mode/1up Sulu Ichafu (Ichafo) = put on a head-tie] page 291

[https://archive.org/details/englishibofrench00holy/page/145/mode/1up?q=Kerchief Kerchief: Icafo, couvre-chef]

[https://books.google.com/books?id=iqZbAAAAMAAJ&q=ichafo Melie Edith (1977), Ichafo or Headgear: "…tall turban-like headgear"]: "The Ichafo or headgear is a decorative piece of cloth for covering the head. The headgear is usually a flat piece of cloth (six by three feet) folded conveniently either in a triangle or in a rectangle and swathed round the head. The resultant cover looks like a tall turban with a bow."

[https://archive.org/details/visual-arts-paterson-poppy-and-vaughn-oxford-2017/page/32/mode/1up?q=Ichafu Oxford University Press (2017), *Visual Arts*: Ichafu under "Textiles and cultural signs" – ceremonial headscarves worn for weddings

[https://observer.co.uk/style/fashion/article/hometown-glory-highlights-from-london-fashion-week-springsummer-2026 The Observer (2025), Priya Ahluwalia's Spring/Summer 2026 collection: Jacquard knits inspired by Nigerian Ichafu headwraps and Bollywood motifs

I'll follow this chronology to revise the paragraph so that you can review it.

Thanks Dreune (talk) 14:44, 28 June 2026 (UTC)

I have rewritten the paragraph better sources that support the content, please assist to review it once again. Thanks. Dreune (talk) 15:32, 28 June 2026 (UTC)

about the comment of Draft:Moxy Hotels

an exerpt from the comment u left reads, Moxy Hotels is a hotel chain founded by Marriott International in 2014, in partnership with IKEA. It has 135 hotels as of 2026.

i have a couple things to note here.

1. i accidentally left 135 on there, when there are actually 181 properties (fixed on the draft)

2. the substituting word for locations is properties to be specific (fixed on the draft)

and

3. select hotel brand means that moxy falls under the "select" hotel category; if you think i'm wrong, check . the image shows a list of marriott brands with moxy & its respective category circled, as taken from the marriott bonvoy website. AHR (g • s • c) 22:10, 9 July 2026 (UTC)

ps: i changed select hotel brand to limited-service hotel brand, and most of the sources are reliable + independent, they were just reporting on buisness routines according to this section from the afc help desk. AHR (g • s • c) 22:14, 9 July 2026 (UTC)