Talk:Faithful Word Baptist Church

Latest comment: 3 months ago by Butlerblog in topic Verifiability required

Fork for Steven Anderson

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Be advised that an article for the pastor has been (re)created at Steven Anderson (pastor). —C.Fred (talk) 04:45, 20 January 2020 (UTC)Reply

Suggestion of Moving Specific Text

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The following text: “Anderson has preached against feminism, including stating that men are meant to be the leaders[13] and called Iceland "a feminist hell".[14]” should be moved over to Steven Anderson (pastor). JJMay (talk) 13:54, 20 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

By that, I mean to move it over specifically to the YouTube Videos section of the article. JJMay (talk) 13:56, 20 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

@JJMay: it can be included there, but being against feminism was removed from this article despite being accurate, so something needs to be here about that. Doug Weller talk 16:51, 20 September 2020 (UTC)Reply
Doug Weller, so that we may ascertain that it is accurate, what is the source? Elizium23 (talk) 17:06, 20 September 2020 (UTC)Reply
@Elizium23: I'm a bit disappointed, but I'll post what's on the article and you can see the sources. Just listen to the first 7 or 8 minutes of his sermon/talk.
Anderson has preached against feminism, including stating that men are meant to be the leaders[1] and called Iceland "a feminist hell".[2]
Doug Weller talk 18:18, 20 September 2020 (UTC)Reply
Doug Weller, an unverified YouTube channel and an article reporting on an unavailable video; I'm not impressed. Elizium23 (talk) 18:39, 20 September 2020 (UTC)Reply
You don't believe it's their YouTube channel? Why? And there is no requirement for the quoted video to be available unless the site is a fake news site Doug Weller talk 18:43, 20 September 2020 (UTC)Reply
Most of this article is about Anderson, not the church. Why is that? 2603:8080:3E00:671:900:C5CF:EB1E:B388 (talk) 23:55, 22 November 2023 (UTC)Reply

References

  1. "Feminism in light of the Bible". Faithful Word Baptist Church's Youtube channel.
  2. "Watch: American preacher denounces Iceland as a "feminist hell", "a nation of bastards"". Icelandmag. 27 April 2016. Retrieved 20 September 2020.

New Location, Address Change

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The church now meets at 330 N 33rd Ave, Phoenix, AZ 85009 per it’s website https://www.faithfulwordbaptist.org 2600:8800:3488:5E00:FC0E:DE96:149C:A393 (talk) 17:23, 20 September 2025 (UTC)Reply

Verifiability required

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There are a number of problems with this edit. First, the revert of it was not vandalism by bot account - it's a legitimate concern about the contents of the edit, which I noted in the revert's edit summary. The problem is twofold with regards to sourcing. First, this is WP:EDITORIALIZING. Phrasing like notorious Westboro Baptist Church is opinion and is not impartial. Use of opinion must have a source to attribute that opinion to. Second, not only is this largely editorial synthesis that projects a POV, it's entirely unsourced with regards to its conclusion. The cited source, although a primary source, does not support the statement (even engaging in one homosexual act is considered the unpardonable sin). That's an assumption drawn from the editor's opinion. Further, the source certainly does not support the connection to WBC, which is another assumption by the editor. Those opinions may be correct, but the editor's own opinion does not meet the verifiability requirement. ButlerBlog (talk) 12:35, 21 April 2026 (UTC)Reply

The re-addition of this isn't any better. It's sourced using a primary source, and nowhere is a connection between FWBC and WBC made. It's entirely WP:SYNTH as well as WP:EDITORIAL. ButlerBlog (talk) 02:40, 27 April 2026 (UTC)Reply