Talk:Angerona

Amor = Roma?

"a late antique source suggests"

It's frustrating to find things like this in Wikipedia... the line was very likely taken straight out of the 1911 Britannica, so there's no way to track down this reference, especially given the thick muck of romantic drivel about Rome as the city of Romance. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 74.131.16.137 (talk) 17:52:17, August 19, 2007 (UTC)

The 1911 Britannica is rarely flat-out wrong on such matters. The 'late antique source' is Ioannes Lydus, a Greek writer of the time of Justinian, at De mensibus 4.73. Lydus is not an easy author to look up, but a pdf of De mensibus is available here, in Greek with notes in Latin. There is also a graffito, I think from Pompeii, which may be a magical diagram or just a palindromic square of Roma/Amor, which I can describe but not duplicate under present conditions: ROMA, with AMOR linked to the A and descending, then ROMA at the bottom reading backwards (or Amor left to right), and again ROMA on the vertical left. It has nothing to do with modern notions of Rome as a city of romance, but possibly does have to do with the genealogical myth of Venus/Aphrodite as Rome's divine mother (the birth mother of Rome's founder Aeneas).Cynwolfe (talk) 18:56, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Solstice?

The article says her holy day was December 21, characterized here as the winter solstice; but most mentions of the solstice in articles on give December 25 as it's date in ancient Rome... Mastakos (talk) 07:29, 13 July 2025 (UTC)

Correct. I adjusted the text. - Eponymous-Archon (talk) 11:40, 9 May 2026 (UTC)

Unsourced notes

Moving all these unsourced "notes" here from the article as an effort to clean it up:

The Ancient Celtic Religion Angerona was an old Gallo Roman Goddess who Was a Celtic Goddess worshipped in Hispanum & Gallicum, Hispanum & Gallicum used by Pliny the Elder is Hispania Spain & Gaulhe also mentioned Iberia. James MacKillop (author) Ágach, Ághmach [Contentious ] Warlike One of The Fomorians In Irish mythology Agroná [Brythonic] Goddess of Slaughter and early British Goddess who gave her name to battle God *Aeron. Based on The Bello de Gallico Lugus & Moccus are Mercury and Jupiter Moccus is a Boar God Based on the Roman interpretation Lughus tries to Rape the sister of Angerona And she tries to tell her sister's husband But her husband angered from Infidelity left. This would be the Celtic myth from what Ovid said was a Roman Myth since Pliny said it was Celtic. & Lughus tells Angerona to take him in The Celtic afterlife. This is based on the Roman Concept with the Celtic Identities, as well as Lí Ban in Irish mythology, she's a water Fairy like Nymph associated with Lugh & his son Cú Chulainn, Miranda Green mentions in Dictionary Of Celtic Myth & Legend that Camolos means War Hound the Gaulish Cú Chulainn, Apollo Cunomaglus A Temple at Nettleton Shrub in Wiltshire was dedicated to Apollo Cunomaglus page 31 Which makes Cú Chulainn & or Cunomaglus, Camolos Lí Ban's consort. Similar to The story of Serglige Con Culainn. Changes from Father to son and or Father & Son fighting over Lí Ban, Lugh the Father of Cú Chulainn. Asturias Mythology Xana, French Folklore Melusine is in the role of Juturna Which is based on shared myths different regions and different Celtic mythological spectrums as well as Pliny The Elder in Naturalis historia mentions Romans Adopted The myth from Celts. Book Three, Pages 171–173 His words are, Counted in the Mysteries of the Ceremonies an impious and unlawful Thing: which, after it was abolished, for the faithful Safety thereof, Valerius Soranus pronounced, and soon after suffered the Penalty. I think it not amiss to insert in this Place an Example of the ancient Religion, instituted especially for this Silence: for the Goddess Angerona,

to whom is sacrificed on the twelfth Day before the Kalends of January, is represented by an Image having her Mouth bound and sealed up. The city had three Gates when Romulus left it; or rather four (if we believe most Men that write thereof), its Walls, when the two Vespasians, Emperors and Censors,

took the Measure, in the Year after the Foundation of it, 828, were in circuit thirteen1 Miles and almost a quarter. It containeth within it seven Mountains, and is divided into fourteen Regions and 265 cross Streets, called Compita Larium. The Measure of the same space of Ground, running from the Milliarium,

He then mentions Groups with the shared Myth & Traditions I tali, Morgetes, Siculi, People for the most part of Greece: and last of all by the Lucani, descended from the Samnites, under their Leader Lucius. In which standeth the Town Paestum, called by the Greeks Posidonia: the Bay Psestanus, the Town Helia, now Velia. The Promontory Palinurum, Creek receding, from which there is a Passage to the Column Rhegia, 100 Miles over. Next to this, the River Melphes: the Town Buxentum, in Greek Pyxus; the River Laiis; and a Town there was likewise of the same Name. From thence the Sea-coast of Brutium, the Town Blanda, the River Batnm, the Haven Parthenius belonging to the Phocaeans: the Bay Vibonensis; the Grove Clampetia, the Town Ternsa, called by the Greeks Temese: and Terina of the Crotonians, and the very large Bay Terinseus: the Town Consentia. Within, in a Peninsula, the River Acheron, from which the Townsmen are called Acherontini. Hippo, which now we call Vibovalentia; the Port of Hercules, the River Metaurus, the Town Tauroentum, the Port of Orestes, and Medua: the Town Scylleum, the River Cratais, Mother (as they say) to Scylla. Then the Column Rhegia the Passage through which it entereth is by the Greeks called Porthmos; by us FretumGaditanum; when it hath entered the Spanish Sea, so far it washeth the Coasts of Spain, Freturn Hispanum: of others, Ibericum, Iberian Peninsula, or Balearicum: and presently it taketh the Name of Gallicum, Gaul, before the Province Narbonensis: and after that, Ligusticum: from whence, to the Island Sicily, it is called Tuscum; which some of the Grecians term Notium, others Tyrrhenum, but most of our Countrymen Inferum. Beyond Sicily. French Folklore:This tale is about one of the most compelling female characters in medieval French fiction. It most likely draws on earlier myths dating back to Gallo-Roman and Celtic prototypes. Even the name 'Fair Melusina' may derive from the same ancient Gaulish root for the fair beings such as mermaids, water sprites, and forest nymphs. The intriguing story tells or the beautiful Mélusine, the result of the marriage of the King of Scotland and his fairy wife. In her youth Mélusine entombed her father in ar mountain leaving her mother heartbroken. The deed displeased her mother and as punishment Mélusine was condemned to transform into a serpent from the waist down every Saturday Mélusine is believed to be Gaulish in origin. Also mother of The Lusignans who may gotten they're name from a Gaulish Tribe in France the House of Lusignan the royal French Family. Could mean Offspring or Worshippers. From Boria Sax Ph.D. her name means Grey or Light from Gaulish Leuk. Miranda Green also shares a head found in Denmark of a Sacrifice to Angerona. Netherzone (talk) 16:26, 12 October 2025 (UTC)

Also moving this here

Not sure if this is a list of unformatted Footnotes, or an intended Further reading section or perhaps a student editor's class notes.

The Serpant & The Swan Boria Sax https://books.google.com/books?id=r1OeQM1RxpEC&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&printsec=frontcover&hl=en&source=gb_mobile_entity&ovdme=1#v=onepage&q&f=false

Celtiberian Ideologies and Religion Gabriel Sopeña https://dc.uwm.edu/ekeltoi/vol6/iss1/7

James Mackilop Dictionary Of Celtic Mythology Page.5 and page 130.

https://archive.org/details/dictionaryofcelt0000mack

Pliny The Elder Naturalis Historia https://archive.org/details/plinysnaturalhis00plinrich/page/n180/mode/1up

Miranda Green Dictionary Of Celtic Myth and Legend page 47.

Alberto Álvarez Peña Asturias, paraíso natural

https://davidwacks.uoregon.edu/2014/12/12/asturian/