Help talk:List of tutorials and introductions

Requested move 12 April 2026

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. – robertsky (talk) 06:06, 19 April 2026 (UTC)

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Help:Getting started → Help:List of tutorials and introductions – It is no secret that we currently have a lot of different "entry points" (this one, Wikipedia:Introduction, Wikipedia:Contributing to Wikipedia, etc.), which all cross-link and overlap, making it hard for newcomers not to get lost.

This specific page, despite its generic "Getting started" name, mostly serves as a repository for various tutorials and introductions. In fact, its piped link in {{Basic information}} is "List of tutorials and introductions", while the hatnote on Wikipedia:Contributing to Wikipedia reads:

For a listing of introductions and tutorials by topic, see: Help:Getting started

Hopefully, a more descriptive title matching how the page is already being described would help prevent newcomer confusion. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 05:36, 12 April 2026 (UTC)

• Support per nom. (Disclosure: The nominator and I recently chatted off-wiki about intro tutorials on Wikipedia overall.) Sdkb ^talk 06:46, 12 April 2026 (UTC)
• Support per nom. I think the name would be good, and also to gain more support with this name, and it would relate to the "Overview tutorials" and "Topic-specific introductions". ~ŤheŴubṂachine-840≈ 15:09, 12 April 2026 (UTC)
• Support per nom. Much better title for the current article content. {{GearsDatapacks|talk|contribs}} 08:54, 13 April 2026 (UTC)

• Support - Moxy🍁 09:28, 13 April 2026 (UTC)

• Support per nom, but I think in the medium term that a single "entry point" for new editors would be helpful. --Minoa (talk) 05:38, 14 April 2026 (UTC)

  Fully agree, I'm hoping we can sort out everything we're sending in the way of new editors. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 05:40, 14 April 2026 (UTC)

• Oppose I think getting started would be more welcoming to a user. In my opinion, I think when you join Wikipedia, you probably want to just get started editing. If the name was changed, a new user might get intimidated and may feel like Wikipedia is too complex. My point is that "Getting started" is a simple, friendly title. People who just want a quick guide will know they are in the right place. However, I do agree that it should be more consistent with other tutorial pages. Robloxguest3 (talk) 15:44, 15 April 2026 (UTC)
  • I think the best course of action here is to move the current contents of the page as proposed, and then draft a new page at Help:Getting started, which is more of an introduction rather than just a list of tutorials. I think having this list at the current title could lead to people being overwhelmed as you said, which is why a more friendly introduction is needed. {{GearsDatapacks|talk|contribs}} 16:40, 15 April 2026 (UTC)
  • The thing is, we already have many other tutorials. Wikipedia:Introduction, Wikipedia:Contributing to Wikipedia, Wikipedia:Everything you need to know, Wikipedia:Learning the ropes, etc. Compared to them, this one is more of a dry list, and the friendly title "Getting started" would do better with being pointed at one of these other existing pages, which are more beginner-friendly. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 16:46, 15 April 2026 (UTC)

Support - As someone relatively new to Wikipedia myself (and someone who spent months just looking through policy and introductory pages before making an account, partially for entertainment and partially for learning), I can personally attest to the organization of pages for newcomers being difficult to navigate and understand at first. While I did eventually find out that this page was a compendium of all of the different introductions and tutorials for Wikipedia, it took me far too long, and the ambiguous title made it hard to remember and get back to. Referring to what the article actually is would made it easier to understand, remember, distinguish, and use. nameless⁷³⁵⁷ 23:23, 17 April 2026 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Post moving notes

There is an issue with moving this talk page specifically which resulted in a database error. I have filed a phab ticket to have someone look into this issue: phab:T423809. In the meantime, I have created a redirect at Help talk:List of tutorials and introductions instead to Help talk:Getting started as a temporary solution. – robertsky (talk) 06:52, 19 April 2026 (UTC)

Now resolved, thanks to Pppery. Added some notes at the ticket to try to understand what happened here, and how best to proceed if it happens again. This page has 23,941 watchers at this writing. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 19:04, 19 April 2026 (UTC)

No section edit links

Does anyone else see no section-edit links on the page, or is it just me? Mathglot (talk) 19:10, 19 April 2026 (UTC)

Never mind; fixed. (But see here for possible reasons for it.) I see no transclusions that would prevent us from having section edit links now. Mathglot (talk) 19:36, 19 April 2026 (UTC)

yes all good.... It's no longer used in the same manner as it was a decade ago. This was once part of a module system that we drop due to lack of participation. Moxy🍁 23:03, 19 April 2026 (UTC)